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++Charlie Kelman signs on a 4 year deal++
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It says a lot that most of us would put a fit Godden straight back in the team.Chunes said:I thought Kelman played well but none of our strikers have made the position their own yet. The battle for the starting place is still wide open and one of them needs to step up.1 -
If we could actually play it on the deck and create chances he would look a lot better.
Just got to be honest about us at times and say we don't exactly play attractive football, it's effective but that's about it.
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Exactly so we should have bought someone more suited to the system , or adapt the system. Not his fault - he did look sharper yesterday , no doubtpaulsturgess said:He's been brought in as he's a goal poacher but he's not missed any chances all season... I think he's a decent player but our lack of creativity / quality in the final third is preventing us seeing the best of him
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One cross in an hour-long performance isn't that much tbh.Garrymanilow said:
What was he doing when Kelman ran off him into the channel and put the ball across the face of goal?kinveachyaddick said:
Cooper is a man mountain and had him in his pocket all gameThe Red Robin said:
Why?kinveachyaddick said:shouldn’t have started today against Cooper. Bad call by Jones
He did well but you can't pretend like the Millwall defense was ever really troubled by his presence. Campbell sure, but not really Kelman.1 -
All the time Godden is out and we aren’t doing well upfront Godden’s reputation will grow!killerandflash said:
It says a lot that most of us would put a fit Godden straight back in the team.Chunes said:I thought Kelman played well but none of our strikers have made the position their own yet. The battle for the starting place is still wide open and one of them needs to step up.5 -
As long as we are pumping long balls for Kelman to win in the air, we ain’t gonna score many goals3
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Unless you are playing to his strenghs, what is the point?MrOneLung said:As long as we are pumping long balls for Kelman to win in the air, we ain’t gonna score many goals4 -
Which IMO makes it all the more baffling we went big for someone like Kelman given the football we play. Someone like Kone fits our style perfectly. Godden is a rarity in that he is deceivingly good in the air for his height and is strong. Still not convinced Kelamn fits with Jones football.MrOneLung said:As long as we are pumping long balls for Kelman to win in the air, we ain’t gonna score many goals1 -
Doesn’t matter what way you want to paint it, if the price is correct which has been quoted, then we got royally shafted by qpr. So many were adamant kone was crap but failed to see Wycombe had a change of manager and his form dipped, he is twice the player kelman is unfortunately and got him for cheaper !3
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I was arguing on here before that Kone was a much better signing, but there’s no guarantee Kone would have signed for us. In fact, I think it’s very unlikely he would have done, a player that good with that much potential will always attract established championship interest and choose that over a newly promoted team000__Jaaaaay__000 said:Doesn’t matter what way you want to paint it, if the price is correct which has been quoted, then we got royally shafted by qpr. So many were adamant kone was crap but failed to see Wycombe had a change of manager and his form dipped, he is twice the player kelman is unfortunately and got him for cheaper !
If we had the choice of Kone or Kelman we would definitely have signed Kone, but we didn’t have that choice so Kelman is probably the best striker we could have got0 -
Probably true, but it's a but painful that the Kelman money we paid QPR, paid for Kone.NabySarr said:
I was arguing on here before that Kone was a much better signing, but there’s no guarantee Kone would have signed for us. In fact, I think it’s very unlikely he would have done, a player that good with that much potential will always attract established championship interest and choose that over a newly promoted team000__Jaaaaay__000 said:Doesn’t matter what way you want to paint it, if the price is correct which has been quoted, then we got royally shafted by qpr. So many were adamant kone was crap but failed to see Wycombe had a change of manager and his form dipped, he is twice the player kelman is unfortunately and got him for cheaper !
If we had the choice of Kone or Kelman we would definitely have signed Kone, but we didn’t have that choice so Kelman is probably the best striker we could have got1 -
Can understand we’re not playing to Kelman’s strengths but if you look at TC despite being small he gave Crama and Leonard absolute hell down that left side and battled away with them constantly. I don’t expect Kelman to be winning headers and throwing those kind of centrebacks to the floor but would like him to show a bit better play all round, his goal scoring isn’t a massive concern I don’t think until he starts missing chance after chance0
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Be nice if he got a chance to missCrispywood said:Can understand we’re not playing to Kelman’s strengths but if you look at TC despite being small he gave Crama and Leonard absolute hell down that left side and battled away with them constantly. I don’t expect Kelman to be winning headers and throwing those kind of centrebacks to the floor but would like him to show a bit better play all round, his goal scoring isn’t a massive concern I don’t think until he starts missing chance after chance4 -
a better game Saturday but just cant see him scoring, the service he gets also isn't brilliant.
as mentioned on the post match thread our lack of goals/chances ( 3 on Saturday ) are a massive concern. on balance I didn't expect us to get much from Leicester or Bristol city, as they are both sides who i expect to be involved in the top part of the table come end of season.
the magic number of 46 is still our target Imo. although disappointing i try to see Saturday as another point gained.
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More frustrating that Kone and Burrell scored for QPR yesterday0
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The Burrell goal is hilarious, Coady looks like he's running through quicksandAberystwythAddick said:More frustrating that Kone and Burrell scored for QPR yesterday2 -
Before December last season Kelman scored 2 league goals, he's a player who needs time and then when it clicks he scores regularly7
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Apart from one season he hasn't scored much.fenaddick said:Before December last season Kelman scored 2 league goals, he's a player who needs time and then when it clicks he scores regularly
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Or he needs creative midfielders behind him to play him in.sam3110 said:
He also needs a strike partner, TC playing wide left isn't working with Kelman, he needs to feed off of Leaburn or Olaofe knock downs IMOfenaddick said:Before December last season Kelman scored 2 league goals, he's a player who needs time and then when it clicks he scores regularly1 -
That was humiliating for Coady. Burrell gave him a massive headstart but still ran straight past him.fenaddick said:
The Burrell goal is hilarious, Coady looks like he's running through quicksandAberystwythAddick said:More frustrating that Kone and Burrell scored for QPR yesterday0 -
He played as a lone striker last seasonsam3110 said:
He also needs a strike partner, TC playing wide left isn't working with Kelman, he needs to feed off of Leaburn or Olaofe knock downs IMOfenaddick said:Before December last season Kelman scored 2 league goals, he's a player who needs time and then when it clicks he scores regularly1 -
Playing for Orient in league 1 and playing for us in the championship are very very different lone striker rolesfenaddick said:
He played as a loan striker last seasonsam3110 said:
He also needs a strike partner, TC playing wide left isn't working with Kelman, he needs to feed off of Leaburn or Olaofe knock downs IMOfenaddick said:Before December last season Kelman scored 2 league goals, he's a player who needs time and then when it clicks he scores regularly2 -
In attack we set up in exactly the same way Orient did last season. You're right that the quality of defence is significantly higher but this idea he "needs" a strike partner isn't backed up by the fact that his best season was without oneNabySarr said:
Playing for Orient in league 1 and playing for us in the championship are very very different lone striker rolesfenaddick said:
He played as a loan striker last seasonsam3110 said:
He also needs a strike partner, TC playing wide left isn't working with Kelman, he needs to feed off of Leaburn or Olaofe knock downs IMOfenaddick said:Before December last season Kelman scored 2 league goals, he's a player who needs time and then when it clicks he scores regularly0 -
The style we play and what we demand from that striker is very very different though, and that matters a lot more than the formation we are playingfenaddick said:
In attack we set up in exactly the same way Orient did last season. You're right that the quality of defence is significantly higher but this idea he "needs" a strike partner isn't backed up by the fact that his best season was without oneNabySarr said:
Playing for Orient in league 1 and playing for us in the championship are very very different lone striker rolesfenaddick said:
He played as a loan striker last seasonsam3110 said:
He also needs a strike partner, TC playing wide left isn't working with Kelman, he needs to feed off of Leaburn or Olaofe knock downs IMOfenaddick said:Before December last season Kelman scored 2 league goals, he's a player who needs time and then when it clicks he scores regularly
I don’t think he necessarily “needs” a strike partner but if he doesn’t have one then we need to adapt to him. Can’t just put him in Godden’s place, play the same way and then expect it to work when he’s a different player. I think there are signs we are adapting to him, he got more balls to feet on Saturday than previous games2 -
I agree we need to adapt, Carey needs to support his runs more and anticipate his movement. Our attack is basically completely new, it will take time for them to get used to each other. I'm not worried yetNabySarr said:
The style we play and what we demand from that striker is very very different though, and that matters a lot more than the formation we are playingfenaddick said:
In attack we set up in exactly the same way Orient did last season. You're right that the quality of defence is significantly higher but this idea he "needs" a strike partner isn't backed up by the fact that his best season was without oneNabySarr said:
Playing for Orient in league 1 and playing for us in the championship are very very different lone striker rolesfenaddick said:
He played as a loan striker last seasonsam3110 said:
He also needs a strike partner, TC playing wide left isn't working with Kelman, he needs to feed off of Leaburn or Olaofe knock downs IMOfenaddick said:Before December last season Kelman scored 2 league goals, he's a player who needs time and then when it clicks he scores regularly
I don’t think he necessarily “needs” a strike partner but if he doesn’t have one then we need to adapt to him. Can’t just put him in Godden’s place, play the same way and then expect it to work when he’s a different player. I think there are signs we are adapting to him, he got more balls to feet on Saturday than previous games0 -
We're much more direct than Orient were though.fenaddick said:
In attack we set up in exactly the same way Orient did last season. You're right that the quality of defence is significantly higher but this idea he "needs" a strike partner isn't backed up by the fact that his best season was without oneNabySarr said:
Playing for Orient in league 1 and playing for us in the championship are very very different lone striker rolesfenaddick said:
He played as a loan striker last seasonsam3110 said:
He also needs a strike partner, TC playing wide left isn't working with Kelman, he needs to feed off of Leaburn or Olaofe knock downs IMOfenaddick said:Before December last season Kelman scored 2 league goals, he's a player who needs time and then when it clicks he scores regularly1 -
He’s not going to score if we keep lumping it up to him.fenaddick said:Before December last season Kelman scored 2 league goals, he's a player who needs time and then when it clicks he scores regularly0 -
You would very probably go down on 46 pointspalarsehater said:a better game Saturday but just cant see him scoring, the service he gets also isn't brilliant.
as mentioned on the post match thread our lack of goals/chances ( 3 on Saturday ) are a massive concern. on balance I didn't expect us to get much from Leicester or Bristol city, as they are both sides who i expect to be involved in the top part of the table come end of season.
the magic number of 46 is still our target Imo. although disappointing i try to see Saturday as another point gained.
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