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  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,698
    Rothko said:
    Great Tailenders this week, Sir Jimmy and Matt Prior going to absoulte town on how England played, Jamie Smith getting torn to pieces by Prior is a hell of a listen 

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0mt2g8v 
    It's a shame that Prior hasn't been able to find a role within anyone's setup. He was incredibly incredibly vocal about the issues at Sussex a couple of years back and was ultimately proved right. Wonder if he's someone that's seen as too opinionated. 
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,711
    edited January 10
    Who would you replace Key and Baz with ? 

    Bearing in mind the best coaches are on an absolute packet from the Franchises. 
    I don't know. This is not a Nathan Jones situation.

    There would be plenty who would want it imo

    How about Vaughn and Lehmann? 
  • MarcusH26 said:
    Rothko said:
    Great Tailenders this week, Sir Jimmy and Matt Prior going to absoulte town on how England played, Jamie Smith getting torn to pieces by Prior is a hell of a listen 

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0mt2g8v 
    It's a shame that Prior hasn't been able to find a role within anyone's setup. He was incredibly incredibly vocal about the issues at Sussex a couple of years back and was ultimately proved right. Wonder if he's someone that's seen as too opinionated. 
    Spoke a hell of a lot of sense on both the drinking culture and the level of practice recently.

    Haven't listened to Tailenders yet but will do, cheers for the heads up Rothko.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,626
    If there is one thing that summed up the England management's attitude to preparation for going into battle it is the fielding.

    England dropped 17 catches in the series. McCullum got rid of the fielding coach in 2024. He said at the end of the Ashes “We don’t have a fielding coach, it wasn’t for the lack of trying. Unfortunately, there’s lots of franchise cricket on at the moment and franchises pay a lot more.”

    This is the biggest load of bullshit I have read. Unlike a fast bowling coach who needs an ongoing relationship with their charges, there is nothing individual about fielding or even keeping that a competent coach could not have provided. It is all about repetition and getting players in the right frame of mind to the extent that they are proactive and not reactive to what is going on.

    Here's the thing though. As much as a fielding coach is desirable, especially from the perspective of keeping, it really isn't a necessity especially when one considers that they did actually have two people in their group who have kept on the international stage. They go by the names of McCullum and Trescothick. 

    So, yes England should have had a fielding coach with them to "share the burden" but fielding drills are something that any competent coach can provide. The issue was never that. It was more that this regime did not recognise the importance of actually devoting more time to doing that. Any more than they did in playing more warm-up games. Or they do in making their players turn out more for their counties.

    There is always an excuse for doing less. In case that gets in the way of the golf and the drinking. The fact that the England and the ECB covered that up (Brook was fined £30,000 for the bouncer incident) and that they are now proposing to re-introduce the midnight curfew that McCullum got rid of when he took charge says it all. 

    Once the cricket becomes secondary, the team will achieve exactly that. Come second. Or, in the case, of the England Test side, come seventh which is exactly where they are, with just Bangladesh and West Indies below them in the World Test Championships. We don't prepare to fail.........
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,626
    Luke Wood and Jamie Overton, two members of our provisional T20 World Cup squad, are playing today for the Adelaide Strikers against the Perth Scorchers. Their combined bowlers figures today were 6-0-88-0

    Overton has bowled well overall in the competition previously but, following a good start, Wood's form is becoming more of a concern - his combined figures for his last four appearances are 14-0-156-2 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,626
    England U19s played India in a warm up game for their imminent World Cup. India scored 295-8 (50) with England responding with 196-3 (36.3) and winning by 20 runs (DLS) in the process. 

    The main contributors to the victory were Durham left-arm seamer, James Minto, who returned 5-34 and James Rew, captain, keeper and middle-order match winner, with 71* (66). 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,698
    James Minto seems like a name to really look out for for the future. Looked very impressive from what I've seen in County Champ games 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 65,057
    https://x.com/thebarmyarmy/status/2011113580972917171?s=46&t=ynww82GMl7VKBjthBflU0g

    England have firmed up their 2029/30 Ashes warmup plans.

    The plans involve scheduling multi-day tour matches against Australian state sides like New South Wales, Victoria, and South Australia before the 2029-30 Ashes.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,734
    https://x.com/thebarmyarmy/status/2011113580972917171?s=46&t=ynww82GMl7VKBjthBflU0g

    England have firmed up their 2029/30 Ashes warmup plans.

    The plans involve several of Australia's golf courses followed by a week of drinking and clubbing in Noosa to recover. 
    Corrected
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,626
    The speed with which the ECB have succeeded in doing this makes the prep that they arranged for the Ashes just gone look even sillier. 

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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 65,057

  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,626
    Yes but we didn't have any coaches, apart from McCullum and Trescothick and they were far too busy doing other more important things, who know anything about keeping or fielding.

    According to McCullum ("we don't have a fielding coach, but it wasn't for a lack of trying"), they did desperately try to find someone, but, unlike a bowling specialist such as David Saker, there wasn't another coach in the world let alone the whole of Australia capable of doing the job. Equally, you can't have the players doing it amongst themselves (like Smith and Pope working with each other on the keeping and the rest rotating the hitting and catching) as it's not in their central contracts to do so.  

    It's just a really unfortunate set of circumstances. No one to blame whatsoever. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,626
    On the subject of fielding, one of the things that we will see coming more and more into the game will be players being able to throw with both arms. There are a few that can (and the odd one that can bowl with ether arm) but, starting at the youngest age group level, more county players will be encouraged to try to learn to do so.

    Having that ability will stop singles in the ring because batters will invariably chance their hand when they hit the ball to the "wrong" hand of the fielder and it will also result in run outs when they forget that an individual can do both equally well. Of course, not every player will be able to do so and those that can might not become as proficient with both arms but those that can will stand out.  
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,404
    On the subject of fielding, one of the things that we will see coming more and more into the game will be players being able to throw with both arms. There are a few that can (and the odd one that can bowl with ether arm) but, starting at the youngest age group level, more county players will be encouraged to try to learn to do so.

    Having that ability will stop singles in the ring because batters will invariably chance their hand when they hit the ball to the "wrong" hand of the fielder and it will also result in run outs when they forget that an individual can do both equally well. Of course, not every player will be able to do so and those that can might not become as proficient with both arms but those that can will stand out.  
    That will make for some really funny videos as professionals get filmed throwing with their other arm for the first time 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 65,057

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/articles/cx2y3wqwg9eo


    England plan to reject any proposals to play a day-night Test using a pink ball under lights in the next Ashes series in Australia.

    BBC Sport understands the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) indicated their stance for the 2029-30 series to Cricket Australia (CA) following post-Ashes talks between senior officials.

    England lost a one-sided day-night Test at the Gabba in Brisbane by eight wickets last month to go 2-0 down in an Ashes series they would eventually lose 4-1.

    Discussions held by the ECB and CA focused on maintaining the Ashes as a blue-ribbon series at a time when the future of Test cricket is under scrutiny.

  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 14,359
    If only they'd also refused to make the 150 yr game a day nighter too, that's a shameful decision
  • https://x.com/thebarmyarmy/status/2011113580972917171?s=46&t=ynww82GMl7VKBjthBflU0g

    England have firmed up their 2029/30 Ashes warmup plans.

    The plans involve scheduling multi-day tour matches against Australian state sides like New South Wales, Victoria, and South Australia before the 2029-30 Ashes.
    ....." like New South Wales, Victoria & South Australian women's teams " :)