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POST MATCH THREAD : Charlton Athletic V Portsmouth : Tuesday 17th February 2026 : KO 19:45
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No idea why we were so poor last night.
Pompey basically had half their team missing with injuries.
This was the perfect opportunity to pull clear from the teams below us and we put in one of our worst performances of the season.
With two away games coming up if we continue to play like this we will be right back in it.
Nathan must get a reaction from the players after this rubbish.
Fingers crossed he will.8 -
I might take issue with the 'excellent job on our wing backs' Killer. Our wing backs made it very easy for them. Games have moments that can affect the eventual outcome, Clarke misses an easy chance in the first minute, Chambers fails to stop the advancing Devlin before he unleashes a 25 yard shot that the keeper should stop. Clarke earned himself an unnecessary booking and Chambers has an issue with the defensive side of his game. The only loanee who came away with any credit was Fevier, the rest made a major contribution to the attitude and application that Charlton served up last night.killerandflash said:
Portsmouth did an excellent job on our wingbacks, never giving them the time and space to provide our attacking width. And once you do that, the first half tactic of having the two big strikers is completely neutralised.golfaddick said:
I dont think we should be in any particular position after 32 matches. But what I do expect is to see some actual football being played. Passes from midfield along the floor for forwards to run onto. No wonder why Kelman can't score in this team - look at the goals he scored last season & compare that to the chances he has been given this.cafcnick1992 said:
The problem with posts like that is that you never set out what your expectations are.BigDiddy said:
No - I don’t accept any of that.cafcnick1992 said:The first few pages of these threads are always angry posts with little longer term perspective.
We're at 7 points from 12 since the Millwall performance - not terrible for a relegation-fighting team. We're also 7 points from the relegation spots and have shown real fight Vs Stoke and QPR.
I thought a few things went against us today early in the game and it was enough to rock us.
1. The ref simply wouldn't allow any contact between players which goes against our playing style.
2. Kiminski gifting Pompey a goal
3. A terrible decision by the ref to award a penalty
It's disappointing we couldn't recover but that's life in the Championship. Those whining and moaning about where we are in the table would be happier if we were 4th in League One. We're a new championship team - these results will happen.
For what's it worth, I thought the Portsmouth players were a credit to their badge tonight. Fought really hard and deserved the win.
We were shite tonight and NJ is clueless when things go wrong.
Do you think we should be comfortably mid table?
I also expect wingers to cross the ball for strikers to attack. Leaburn is 6ft 5 but not once did he have a ball to run onto & head at goal. Was the Leicester match an aberration & tonight the norm ? Or was tonight the outlier & on Saturday we'll see Clarke & Chambers whipping in crosses for the strikers to attack ?
TC had pace & trickery but 90% of the time he beats his defender & then creates very little. Feverier did more & scored to boot.
We may stay up but by God if NJ doesn't change his tactics/ formation for next season I couldn't stand another year of this mediocrity.
Fevrier did provide an attacking threat after the break, but as an inverted winger cutting in to shoot narrowly wide before he scored.3 -
Midfield bypassed all game by Jonesball.ThrappersAddick said:That was shockingly bad. Midfield non existent all game. And it was cold.4 -
Irrespective of who's out on the field, the buck stops with the manager. What do they do in training, play with helium balloons?ForeverAddickted said:
Thats not necessarily on Jones though is it...? - You'd expect the 11-players on the pitch to be able to show the effort required without their Manager having to tell them to do that...bobmunro said:
He needs to take responsibility for that abject performance. He's likely paid 20 or 30 times what those fans earns who shell out their hard earned to expect to see EFFORT.Busterblitz said:
He went ballistic at a fan in the North Lower before exiting the pitch. He looked very surprised that there were boos for him and took exception to someone. Held back by Henderson and KaminskiCafcWest said:Nathan Jones remarkably restrained tonight - where was the screaming and ranting!8 -
There hasn't been any.agim said:1) has it ever worked with two big men up top?
2) has anyone got the stats for us coming from behind to win this season?
10 wins. 9 of them without conceding and the other was 2-1 v Sheff Weds when we went 2-0 up.2 -
We are poor, for the purposes of this conversation lolBigDiddy said:
Jones is not a long term solution and his- he is a poor man’s Conte or Mourinho. He will fall out with players, clubs and fans, eventually.bobmunro said:
Ultimately it is on Jones, he's paid to take that responsibility - and being so oblivious to that by being surprised at fans' reactions says it all.ForeverAddickted said:
Thats not necessarily on Jones though is it...? - You'd expect the 11-players on the pitch to be able to show the effort required without their Manager having to tell them to do that...bobmunro said:
He needs to take responsibility for that abject performance. He's likely paid 20 or 30 times what those fans earns who shell out their hard earned to expect to see EFFORT.Busterblitz said:
He went ballistic at a fan in the North Lower before exiting the pitch. He looked very surprised that there were boos for him and took exception to someone. Held back by Henderson and KaminskiCafcWest said:Nathan Jones remarkably restrained tonight - where was the screaming and ranting!
I was at the game tonight and it was obvious we needed to change our pattern and tactics after about 25 minutes. We did not and that played right into their hands. Make no mistake, Pompey are a shite team that we made look good, through inept team selection, an inability to change tactics within the game and collective blindness in the dugout.
If the squad is piss poor, that is down to NJ, Chapple and Rodwell and that is where change will need to happen in the summer, whether we stay up or not.
Seriously, would anyone trust them with another £10m + in the summer?
We were 3rd rate against Pompey’s second team of plodders. A joke.0 -
And themselves. Arguably our league position and overall results this season are superior to our budget which is one of the lowest in the league.BigDiddy said:
I have been saying that for months - it was plainly obvious that we needed to sort out the midfield, but the club did nothingCroydon said:Piss poor performance and yet another game that highlights the lack of quality in the side. We're screaming out for a midfielder who can take the ball forward and pick a pass.
Summer recruitment looks more and more criminal as the season wears on with Bell seemingly the only player of championship quality that we signed.
If we stay up this season, then the owners need to take a long hard look at the manager and the recruitment team.
Jones has kept a league one squad above the relegation zone for most of the season.
It's testament to the job he's done.
It's been more often than not as ugly frustrating and ultimately disappointing as my younger nights in The Venue in New Cross but objectively if he keeps us up he's done a remarkably successful job on the budget he's got.
We were diabolical last night but short of the capitulation against Millwall who are absolutely flying (and a result magnified by the derby element) and the Southampton catastrophe we've not consistently been terrible objectively when you consider the quality of the squad and budget we have compared to the vast majority of clubs we line up against each week.
Staying in this league is all that matters between now and end of this season by hook or crook and ill keep that perspective despite the inevitable shit league one standard performances like last night.
If the board want us to be competitive they need to give Jones a competitive budget and level playing field. He's over achieving this season when objectively looking at league position vs budget and quality of squad at his disposal.
I do agree his team selections and tactics are often questionable and infuriating but he's his own man and will live or die by them ultimately.
If he keeps us up and gets a competitive budget in summer and then the squad underpreforms that's a different story.
Also the players as limited as most are should still be doing the basics such as passing to a red shirt etc as that's just rudimentary and not something a manager can control.
Awful performance and result but if we stay up the season will have been a massive success and Jones will have earned a genuinely competitive budget for next season to demonstrate if he's up to it.
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Looking forward to the next time we win everyone saying what a brilliant manager jones is and how lucky we are to have him.
Football fans are hilarious17 -
I’d prefer a fit Leaburn and Dykes up front than Kelman or TC a fit Godden if that exists anymore would be in for one of them .
I’d prefer TC on the flank , Kelman offers nothing most of the time .
Leaburn flicked on for Clarkes chance him and Dykes are our better options up front and offer a threat of some sort .
They are in positions to receive the ball and be proactive and put themselves about which you have to with our lack of creativity, there’s not gonna be the ball on a plate that Kelman might want but his positional sense has been lacking for us .1 -
I think you need to play 4 at the back to start leaburn and dykes and we don't1
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Slept on it. On a positive note, I don't think last night was a return of the rubbish defending. Kaminski should have done much better with the first and the second was an extremely harsh penalty. To be fair to the ref, I think his assistant gave it. On a general note, I thik the penalty law has become such a mess over recent years. Common sense and judgement has been removed from it and I think this was done to aid consistency but in reality it has made it worse. They are now chasing the law this way and that when the best solution is to give refs more flexibility in terms of intent like they used to. Anyway, the third was a great strike so it wasn't a Southampton at home defensive performance. That is something to take from it seeing as it is our defensive performances that will make or break our season.
The midfield were terrible and the ball felt like it was a hot potato. Aimless badly executed balls forward and no second balls won. Two big men doesn't work as it invites the midfield to hoof it even more. It is the easy way out and they took it. Also Leaburn and Dykes don't have a great understanding. In the first half Leaburn won a header and Dykes should have anticipated that and run for goal but he ran towards Miles. Maybe they will improve over games but do we have those games? To be fair to both, they have no service and are far too isolated.
I suppose the biggest disapointment is the realisation that we are well and truly back in it.6 -
Kaminski: Use your hands ffsBell’s: Hand out is more often given
Ramsey :The ball is well shielded and he’s shoved him over7 -
Just for the record, the 1st Pompey goal did swerve left to right a bit quite late in it's path. Kaminski was already starting to go down to his right. At that point, you've just got to hope it hits his legs and stays out.
The last time we scored more than one goal at home was in October. Overall it's been a pretty hard watch.4 -
Well, we have to thank our lucky stars that Pompey had 14 players out injured.
If their better players had been available I dread to think what the score could have been!3 -
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I wish we would play football instead of Hoofball.Why Jones just heads the ball back (normally giving it back to the opposition) when he has time to bring the ball down and play the ball out to one of our players?4
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Players were poor
Ref was poor
Jones got it wrong by not playing Kelman or Campbell alongside Dykes
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Is Jimmy Floyd Hesselbaink coming back?Callumcafc said:
We’ve made massive strides since Jones has been here…golfaddick said:
I dont think we should be in any particular position after 32 matches. But what I do expect is to see some actual football being played. Passes from midfield along the floor for forwards to run onto. No wonder why Kelman can't score in this team - look at the goals he scored last season & compare that to the chances he has been given this.cafcnick1992 said:
The problem with posts like that is that you never set out what your expectations are.BigDiddy said:
No - I don’t accept any of that.cafcnick1992 said:The first few pages of these threads are always angry posts with little longer term perspective.
We're at 7 points from 12 since the Millwall performance - not terrible for a relegation-fighting team. We're also 7 points from the relegation spots and have shown real fight Vs Stoke and QPR.
I thought a few things went against us today early in the game and it was enough to rock us.
1. The ref simply wouldn't allow any contact between players which goes against our playing style.
2. Kiminski gifting Pompey a goal
3. A terrible decision by the ref to award a penalty
It's disappointing we couldn't recover but that's life in the Championship. Those whining and moaning about where we are in the table would be happier if we were 4th in League One. We're a new championship team - these results will happen.
For what's it worth, I thought the Portsmouth players were a credit to their badge tonight. Fought really hard and deserved the win.
We were shite tonight and NJ is clueless when things go wrong.
Do you think we should be comfortably mid table?
I also expect wingers to cross the ball for strikers to attack. Leaburn is 6ft 5 but not once did he have a ball to run onto & head at goal. Was the Leicester match an aberration & tonight the norm ? Or was tonight the outlier & on Saturday we'll see Clarke & Chambers whipping in crosses for the strikers to attack ?
TC had pace & trickery but 90% of the time he beats his defender & then creates very little. Feverier did more & scored to boot.
We may stay up but by God if NJ doesn't change his tactics/ formation for next season I couldn't stand another year of this mediocrity.4 -
Forgetting the ref was a totally inconsistent wanker, if we carryon playing like we did tonight we will go down !!
utter shite against a reserve team 👎👎👎1 -
So, apart from that we were spot on...welling1986 said:Things I learned tonight… can’t play two target men up top, no pace in the team at all until subs were made, ref was shocking, Pompey spent all the time diving, and we got out battled and they wanted it more!0 -
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Woke up just as pissed off. That performance was disgraceful.
We are still right in the shit.And what’s going on with our pitch, looks awful.5 -
Players need to take a good hard look at themselves.No real complaints across the previous two games, we know how they are set up and what is expected to try to get results from that set up. We have 7 points more than the team third from bottom currently so whether we like the style etc, I don’t care, for now the end result is more important than the method.How so many professional footballers were sucked into mindless booking situations I just don’t know. Yes, the ref was a pedantic card touting c*ckwomble but the lads played their part in falling into Pompey’s trap while not doing any of the basics well. We had just a little spell in the second when it looked like we might put them under a bit of pressure but that squad owes us a performance on Saturday to make up for last night for sure. Another two important back-to-back away games now and we do not want to get dragged back in. Three points somehow minimum.2
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Based on watching them when they did get the ball, as much as I don’t like the route one and hope, I’m not suprised they get bypassed.Charlton1905 said:
Midfield bypassed all game by Jonesball.ThrappersAddick said:That was shockingly bad. Midfield non existent all game. And it was cold.None of them are any good on the ball and take an eternity to get it out from under their feet and onto the next player. Carey has a knack for getting in the right position and can score a goal, but he can’t move the ball quickly and the other two are so bad it impacts that side of his game. Docherty may get plaudits recently for the stuff he does off the ball, but he’s so slow and easily cut through. He offers very little on the ball and the less said about Coady as the defensive midfielder the better. It worked once at Leicester so invariably Jones now clings to it. It may have a use away, but I don’t want to see him playing there in the home games ever again.The problem is, all the replacements aren’t much cop either. JRC came in and had a couple of good performances over Xmas but there must be something missing given how little we’ve seen of him. Coventry was shocking when he came on last night. There was a chance when we had got the goal back and he had the chance to release TC and he completely screwed up the pass. He’s just a scrapper with an engine that can do all the scurrying and tidying at the base of the three, but no more. And the only other option we have in midfield after that is Berry.This is the area that will determine how painful it is trying to limp over the line re relegation this year. I genuinely fear for the remainder of the season here. The wing backs are key in taking the pressure off and Pompey nullified them last night. Any other manager just has to watch that and repeat it against us this season and it will be 14 games of long punts up to Dykes10 -
It looks that way in the screenshot but not what happens in motion imo, the pompey player is looking for it and side steps into Ramsay which then looks like a shoveoohaahmortimer said:Kaminski: Use your hands ffsBell’s: Hand out is more often given
Ramsey :The ball is well shielded and he’s shoved him over
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Basically football fans are the same everywhere.TheHerminator said:Looking forward to the next time we win everyone saying what a brilliant manager jones is and how lucky we are to have him.
Football fans are hilarious
When the team is playing well and winning they've happy.
When the team is playing shit and losing they have a moan.
It is what it is.3 -
No one is immune from criticism. Jones got it wrong yesterday. This is not a difficult concept to understand.2
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Ref could have given another penalty in the last minute when Ramsay slid and basically picked the ball up in the area. Ref was fcking dire. We were fcking dire. Portsmouth well deserving of the 3 points.6
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Decided to hold off commenting in the heat of the moment but even after that and even considering the abject refereeing, there is no way to avoid saying that we were awful and thoroughly deserved to lose.
The slim consolation is that we still have a bit of daylight between us and the drop, and even if Portsmouth end up catching us, there's other teams even worse. As long as this turns out to be a one off disaster of a performance and not a sign of things to come, we have time to recover, consolidate and improve - and we need to.
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It was a really poor performance. Everyone has bad days, this wasn't as bad as Millwall but we were miles off it. The match tactics are the biggest issue for me. One dimensional plan with the ball and our man to man marking in the middle was torn to shreds as we could not handle their movement off the ball.
It's completely fair to be critical of the performance, question tactics and have a bit of a moan. However, some of the stuff I heard in the ground (North Upper) and the reaction on here feels over the top. We have just come out of a decent uptick in form. We're going to lose more games the rest of the way. A lot of people seem to keep saying 'as long as we stay up I don't mind', yet lose their heads when we display form that will likely keep us up.
If we call for the manager's job every time we lose, slag off the players that have got us here because they played poorly and spiral into a meltdown, then we aren't going to help our cause.8 -
1968CAFC said:Forgetting the ref was a totally inconsistent wanker, if we carryon playing like we did tonight we will go down !!
utter shite against a reserve team 👎👎👎Sorry but at least do your research, people are looking at the 14-injuries and are simply presuming the worstGoalkeeper- Schmid: 21-games this season, missed a few earlier in the season with an injury, but first choiceDefence- Poole; 28-games... Devlin and Swanson... 26-games, Ogvilie: 21-gamesMidfield- Pack; 21-games... Adams and Alli; 7-games (joined in Jan)... Caballero; 2-games (joined in Jan)Attack- Switf; 21-games... Bishop; 28-games.That is a lot of matches for their "reserves", given they've played 31-games?12
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