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Collins Sichenje Signs On A Three And A Half Year Deal

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  • _uptheaddicks
    _uptheaddicks Posts: 279
    elbiglad said:
    elbiglad said:
    I think it's pretty clear: whoever made the decision (likely Nathan Jones) to keep him on the pitch for four minutes after he signalled that he was injured. I think it's totally understandable how this happened in the moment. 

    It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.

    It was very obviously a hamstring at the time. He should have been straight off, it's schoolboy stuff. You can't run it off, it will only make it worse.  I was there and said he should be straight off as did everyone with me. It's not being a Monday morning quarterback, it's basic.
    But NJ is in credit overall and Collins will hopefully be fit and raring to go for next season as he looked very, very decent.
    Ha, I don’t think he was told to try and run it off! He was told to stand up front for the last four minutes of a game we had a good chance of getting something from. I don’t think he was involved in anything that could’ve made it worse, the damage was already done. 
    Someone did pass to him and he put another ball into the box and winced again. 
    Yep, Biglad is really defending the decision to continue with an injured player, for some reason. Maybe a physio in life.
  • elbiglad
    elbiglad Posts: 197
    I am just saying it was understandable in the moment as there wasn’t long left and I don’t think the injury was made any worse. 

    The Monday morning quarterback comment was made in relation to someone saying ‘we got nothing from the game so it was a bad decision’. 

    Anyway, looking forward to his return!  
  • elbiglad said:
    elbiglad said:
    I think it's pretty clear: whoever made the decision (likely Nathan Jones) to keep him on the pitch for four minutes after he signalled that he was injured. I think it's totally understandable how this happened in the moment. 

    It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.

    It was very obviously a hamstring at the time. He should have been straight off, it's schoolboy stuff. You can't run it off, it will only make it worse.  I was there and said he should be straight off as did everyone with me. It's not being a Monday morning quarterback, it's basic.
    But NJ is in credit overall and Collins will hopefully be fit and raring to go for next season as he looked very, very decent.
    Ha, I don’t think he was told to try and run it off! He was told to stand up front for the last four minutes of a game we had a good chance of getting something from. I don’t think he was involved in anything that could’ve made it worse, the damage was already done. 

    That's even worse.  This is professional football not a Sunday League game. 

    "Stand up front and don't move around" is a pointless instruction, even more reason to simply take him off if that is the whole point of leaving him on.

    He did try to jog a couple of occasions, clearly in discomfort, and as said above, got passed the ball again and winced whilst kicking it.  
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 4,241
    Absolute amateur hour from the management team with this, we wonder why we get so many injuries, if this is an indicator it's like we've let the work experience lad have a go.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 12,028
    elbiglad said:
    I think it's pretty clear: whoever made the decision (likely Nathan Jones) to keep him on the pitch for four minutes after he signalled that he was injured. I think it's totally understandable how this happened in the moment. 

    It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.

    It was very obviously a hamstring at the time. He should have been straight off, it's schoolboy stuff. You can't run it off, it will only make it worse.  I was there and said he should be straight off as did everyone with me. It's not being a Monday morning quarterback, it's basic.
    But NJ is in credit overall and Collins will hopefully be fit and raring to go for next season as he looked very, very decent.
    Is it confirmed he is out for the season?
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,728
    elbiglad said:
    I think it's pretty clear: whoever made the decision (likely Nathan Jones) to keep him on the pitch for four minutes after he signalled that he was injured. I think it's totally understandable how this happened in the moment. 

    It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.

    It was very obviously a hamstring at the time. He should have been straight off, it's schoolboy stuff. You can't run it off, it will only make it worse.  I was there and said he should be straight off as did everyone with me. It's not being a Monday morning quarterback, it's basic.
    But NJ is in credit overall and Collins will hopefully be fit and raring to go for next season as he looked very, very decent.
    Is it confirmed he is out for the season?
    No not been confirmed all we know is Kaminski is the closest to being back at present. Just depends how bad the hamstring injury is based on what we’ve seen from Kelman and Bell’s hamstring injuries they’ve take around 6 weeks to heal 
  • elbiglad said:
    I think it's pretty clear: whoever made the decision (likely Nathan Jones) to keep him on the pitch for four minutes after he signalled that he was injured. I think it's totally understandable how this happened in the moment. 

    It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.

    It was very obviously a hamstring at the time. He should have been straight off, it's schoolboy stuff. You can't run it off, it will only make it worse.  I was there and said he should be straight off as did everyone with me. It's not being a Monday morning quarterback, it's basic.
    But NJ is in credit overall and Collins will hopefully be fit and raring to go for next season as he looked very, very decent.
    Is it confirmed he is out for the season?

    No, I was more thinking that a hammy is likely about 4-6 weeks at best by which time this season is as good as done.
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 17,115
    Bell was back after three weeks from Chelsea to Leicester.
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 11,129
    Absolute amateur hour from the management team with this, we wonder why we get so many injuries, if this is an indicator it's like we've let the work experience lad have a go.
    Having followed and watched more football games this season (especially the championship) as I now have Sky - it really does not sound like the amount of injuries we have had in recent years is anything different to what other teams experience.

    10 players out, only 1 fit CB etc etc - I routinely hear other teams facing these issues. 
  • MickeyBennett
    MickeyBennett Posts: 779
    Absolute amateur hour from the management team with this, we wonder why we get so many injuries, if this is an indicator it's like we've let the work experience lad have a go.
    Having followed and watched more football games this season (especially the championship) as I now have Sky - it really does not sound like the amount of injuries we have had in recent years is anything different to what other teams experience.

    10 players out, only 1 fit CB etc etc - I routinely hear other teams facing these issues. 
    We have been quite fortunate this season with injuries really

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  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,728
    Absolute amateur hour from the management team with this, we wonder why we get so many injuries, if this is an indicator it's like we've let the work experience lad have a go.
    Having followed and watched more football games this season (especially the championship) as I now have Sky - it really does not sound like the amount of injuries we have had in recent years is anything different to what other teams experience.

    10 players out, only 1 fit CB etc etc - I routinely hear other teams facing these issues. 
    We have been quite fortunate this season with injuries really
    Number of injuries not really but the fact they’ve all been in the same position where we lack depth the most is so unfortunate 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,996
    elbiglad said:
    I think it's pretty clear: whoever made the decision (likely Nathan Jones) to keep him on the pitch for four minutes after he signalled that he was injured. I think it's totally understandable how this happened in the moment. 

    It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.

    It was very obviously a hamstring at the time. He should have been straight off, it's schoolboy stuff. You can't run it off, it will only make it worse.  I was there and said he should be straight off as did everyone with me. It's not being a Monday morning quarterback, it's basic.
    But NJ is in credit overall and Collins will hopefully be fit and raring to go for next season as he looked very, very decent.
    Is it confirmed he is out for the season?

    No, I was more thinking that a hammy is likely about 4-6 weeks at best by which time this season is as good as done.
    It helps that there's an international break soon. By the time we return from that it's April and he could be back.
  • _uptheaddicks
    _uptheaddicks Posts: 279
    Any update on his recovery? Not seen him in any training clips on the grass.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 17,637
    Any update on his recovery? Not seen him in any training clips on the grass.
    NJ said he was expected back after the international break I think
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,728
    Any update on his recovery? Not seen him in any training clips on the grass.
    Not yet but playing the law of averages with grade 2 hamstring injuries, commonly look at 6-8 weeks out so hopefully back for Preston or the Sheffield Wednesday game. Not grade 1 because he would have been back already would guess it’s not grade 3 otherwise he would be out for the season and the club would have probably put out a statement he would be out for the rest of the year 
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 6,263
    I think we will see a big season for this lad next year. He showed alot of potential I think in his brief gametime so far
  • MrBurns
    MrBurns Posts: 1,730
    We need our star boy back before the end of the season
  • kodfish
    kodfish Posts: 644
    Will already be the April player of the month. 
  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 2,564
    kodfish said:
    Will already be the April player of the month. 

    Yes but Jones has pots in the bag now (so probably doesn't care about the monthly awards now)

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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 99,200
    Hopefully be ready by Ipswich at the very least, as we wont have Clarke to rely on
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,639
    follett said:
    Are we expecting him in the squad/team any time soon, or is he more likely to be a fringe player for this season?
    We were planning to sign him in Summer buts it’s been brought forward so I assume there’s some desire to have him in the squad 
    But not all the endless, tiresome comments on facebook  :(
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 4,241
     <3 
  • O-Randy-Hunt
    O-Randy-Hunt Posts: 11,300
    AndyG said:
    I think we will see a big season for this lad next year. He showed alot of potential I think in his brief gametime so far
    Hopefully he overcomes this terrible cramp that has kept him sidelined.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 48,098
    AndyG said:
    I think we will see a big season for this lad next year. He showed alot of potential I think in his brief gametime so far
    Yes, I think it was helpful he got a taste of the Championship, and did well, whether he is back playing or not this season.
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,728
    Wonder how he fits in next year I know squad depth is a big thing but he’s not going to get in over Jones, I’d very surprised to see Ramsay dropped unless he’s sold, not sure how he gets into the XI. Can always move Ramsay to RWB but that could be seen as quite negative 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 51,015
    Wonder how he fits in next year I know squad depth is a big thing but he’s not going to get in over Jones, I’d very surprised to see Ramsay dropped unless he’s sold, not sure how he gets into the XI. Can always move Ramsay to RWB but that could be seen as quite negative 
    He’s a defender but I’m sure we’ll see him in midfield on occasion. He’s decent on the ball, forward thinking and athletic. 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 22,745
    Wonder how he fits in next year I know squad depth is a big thing but he’s not going to get in over Jones, I’d very surprised to see Ramsay dropped unless he’s sold, not sure how he gets into the XI. Can always move Ramsay to RWB but that could be seen as quite negative 
    Ramsay hasn't been great shakes this season, if he continues on as he started he can easily play ahead of him, long term. 

    It's a squad game anyway so it'll be good to have proper competition for places
  • Addicksi
    Addicksi Posts: 128
    Hopefully our Kenyan warrior 🇰🇪 is ready for Ipswich when Clarke won't play and Ramsey rwb.
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 17,115
    follett said:
    Are we expecting him in the squad/team any time soon, or is he more likely to be a fringe player for this season?
    We were planning to sign him in Summer buts it’s been brought forward so I assume there’s some desire to have him in the squad 
    But not all the endless, tiresome comments on facebook  :(
    I think it’s wonderful fun that we’ve engaged the whole of Kenya. Can we not just revel in it and pick up a few new fans along the way?