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++Charlie Kelman signs on a 4 year deal++
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Ronnie Moore (Bexley Boy) has been a troll for many years across the forums and socials.Mendonca In Asdas said:Why do we get so many trolls, on here?
It’s really boring!
He’s been banned on most of them.
Has a really dislike of Campbell, Leaburn, Anderson & Kanu at the moment.
The players are aware of him, as he often turns up at the training ground trying to get ‘spoliers’ on team news and setups.
The only positive is that he doesn’t actually go to games, as nothing worse than fans who just vocally have a go at the same players every week.6 -
Are you talking about Lucas Ness who was too slow for us in league one and mainly been on the bench for notts?Gisappointed said:Jury is out on Kelman who doesn't make his own chances. Also Leaburn who doesn't score or assist. Godden too old, TC is a winger. Dykes runs around a lot but not a striker.
Jatta from Notts County we should be looking at along with Iorpenda in midfield. Ness in defence is useful.
Kanu needs to get game time in August to assess if he needs a L1 loan at close of window. I hope Mbick is fit for August trial, similar to Kanu.3 -
Tongue in cheek fella, but slower than Gillesphie or Coady? C'mon. The other two are serious.Bostonaddick said:
Are you talking about Lucas Ness who was too slow for us in league one and mainly been on the bench for notts?Gisappointed said:Jury is out on Kelman who doesn't make his own chances. Also Leaburn who doesn't score or assist. Godden too old, TC is a winger. Dykes runs around a lot but not a striker.
Jatta from Notts County we should be looking at along with Iorpenda in midfield. Ness in defence is useful.
Kanu needs to get game time in August to assess if he needs a L1 loan at close of window. I hope Mbick is fit for August trial, similar to Kanu.0 -
Why has he not been banned from here then? if his previous profile has?CafcSteve said:
Ronnie Moore (Bexley Boy) has been a troll for many years across the forums and socials.Mendonca In Asdas said:Why do we get so many trolls, on here?
It’s really boring!
He’s been banned on most of them.
Has a really dislike of Campbell, Leaburn, Anderson & Kanu at the moment.
The players are aware of him, as he often turns up at the training ground trying to get ‘spoliers’ on team news and setups.
The only positive is that he doesn’t actually go to games, as nothing worse than fans who just vocally have a go at the same players every week.2 -
Guessing that he tried returning after many years after being banned everywhere else, so admin gave him a second chance.EugenesAxe said:
Why has he not been banned from here then? if his previous profile has?CafcSteve said:
Ronnie Moore (Bexley Boy) has been a troll for many years across the forums and socials.Mendonca In Asdas said:Why do we get so many trolls, on here?
It’s really boring!
He’s been banned on most of them.
Has a really dislike of Campbell, Leaburn, Anderson & Kanu at the moment.
The players are aware of him, as he often turns up at the training ground trying to get ‘spoliers’ on team news and setups.
The only positive is that he doesn’t actually go to games, as nothing worse than fans who just vocally have a go at the same players every week.0 -
Bit of an unfair comparison, as Godden came on when the game had become stretched and we were playing better, but it was very noticeable the difference in movement between the two. The things I liked about Kelman at Orient were his finishing and his movement but I don't think we've seen enough of the latter this season. Really hope this is something we work on in pre-season. Obviously, having better offensive players in the team can only help.3
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Don't think Charlie had a bad game. But Godden also won a few headers. Showed his value.1
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I thought Kelman was poor today. But he didn’t get much help from our midfield. They out passed us all game.cantersaddick said:Don't think Charlie had a bad game. But Godden also won a few headers. Showed his value.0 -
Barely saw the ball, almost never got it to feet and still got a clever assist on one of the very few occasions he had the ball. Bit harsh to be dragging him when the only way he ever got a sniff of play was if Dykes managed to head the ball to him5
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On the ball you can tell he has the quality but just needs to get it more often that’s down to the team and himself to try and make happen. Godden played 55 less minutes today and had only 2 touches less than Kelman0
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Thought that he was poor again today.
Barely tried when the ball came towards him.4 -
Slow and disinterested. Our passing to him.isnt good enough but he lacks the effort to at least make the Centre Back know he's there.4
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He got poor service today, but looked pretty ineffective for most of the game. He didn't get any chances, but sometimes you need to be sharper to sniff out the half chances. Maybe it's a confidence thing, but he looks quite slow out there.
TC's finishing is atrocious, but today you could see why he's usually been starting ahead of Kelman, as he looks more dangerous to opposition defences.
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My post wasn't meant to dig him out, although I can see how it may have come across that way. It was more highlighting how Godden's movement is a real strength and we shouldn't underestimate the effect that has on our chance creation. If Charlie can gain more of that nuisance factor, it will improve us.5
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Actually amazed he is our 2nd highest goal scorer this season given the scraps we have feed him. I have never seen him have a poor game for us in terms of effort. If we let him go to a team that actually creates chances he will show his worth.6
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Message to Kelman. Words are cheap. Actions speak louder than words.0
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Killer used to do that. But then he scored goals because he had a regular supply line be that flick-ons from Flanagan and Horsfield, through balls from Tydeman and Hunt or crosses from Powell, Peacock and Robinson. How many times a game have we been doing that for Kelman?J BLOCK said:
The same every time he plays. He also pretends to jump for headers. He's a passenger at this level, we need better.CafcSteve said:Thought that he was poor again today.
Barely tried when the ball came towards him.
Kelman has had 26 shots of which 17 have been on target and converted 6 of those. There isn't a striker in the division that is 63% on target. Even the top scorer in the division has an accuracy of 30 from 78 attempts - that's 38%.
The fact is that we are not set up on a game by game basis to score goals. We are set up not to concede. Only a team that has won one match from their last 46 games has scored less!
There are, for sure, elements of his game that he needs to work on but when our other forwards are struggling even more to find the net (Leaburn one goal all season in the Championship) then we have to accept that we will only get the best out of him when we play to his strengths.4 -
We’re going through the same cycle have a few times this season.J BLOCK said:
The same every time he plays. He also pretends to jump for headers. He's a passenger at this level, we need better.CafcSteve said:Thought that he was poor again today.
Barely tried when the ball came towards him.
We play Kelman because he’s a great finisher.When he’s not scoring he offers little and our team tends to be too slow and predictable.
We put TC back in to help with that, but then he misses chances and Kelman is seen as the answer.
It’s why we don’t have a first choice front two, whichever combination we play lacks something important.
It won’t be a surprise if TC starts tomorrow and if not the game after that.8 -
Perfect summaryScoham said:
We’re going through the same cycle have a few times this season.J BLOCK said:
The same every time he plays. He also pretends to jump for headers. He's a passenger at this level, we need better.CafcSteve said:Thought that he was poor again today.
Barely tried when the ball came towards him.
We play Kelman because he’s a great finisher.When he’s not scoring he offers little and our team tends to be too slow and predictable.
We put TC back in to help with that, but then he misses chances and Kelman is seen as the answer.
It’s why we don’t have a first choice front two, whichever combination we play lacks something important.
It won’t be a surprise if TC starts tomorrow and if not the game after that.0 -
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Based on this, if he played in a side that creates loads of chances, you'd expect him to be on 18 goals this season, that would put him joint top with Vitopnik.Addick Addict said:
Killer used to do that. But then he scored goals because he had a regular supply line be that flick-ons from Flanagan and Horsfield, through balls from Tydeman and Hunt or crosses from Powell, Peacock and Robinson. How many times a game have we been doing that for Kelman?J BLOCK said:
The same every time he plays. He also pretends to jump for headers. He's a passenger at this level, we need better.CafcSteve said:Thought that he was poor again today.
Barely tried when the ball came towards him.
Kelman has had 26 shots of which 17 have been on target and converted 6 of those. There isn't a striker in the division that is 63% on target. Even the top scorer in the division has an accuracy of 30 from 78 attempts - that's 38%.
The fact is that we are not set up on a game by game basis to score goals. We are set up not to concede. Only a team that has won one match from their last 46 games has scored less!
There are, for sure, elements of his game that he needs to work on but when our other forwards are struggling even more to find the net (Leaburn one goal all season in the Championship) then we have to accept that we will only get the best out of him when we play to his strengths.
Ok maybe his overall accuracy drops off if he's having way more shots, but you still expect him to at least double what he's scored now.
Kelman isn't the issue, the severe lack of pace and creativity in the side is4 -
Kelman isn’t the issue. The best way to get the best out of him is to thread passes through to him. Playing hoofball is not the way. He is not a good header of the ball. If we had a Bannon time and we played quick passing football as most teams in this division play, I thing he would have doubled his tally.0
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Kelman has had 26 shots, Godden with 9x less mins has managed 8 shots in the exact same system which with Kelman’s minutes would put him on roughly 75 shots.sam3110 said:
Based on this, if he played in a side that creates loads of chances, you'd expect him to be on 18 goals this season, that would put him joint top with Vitopnik.Addick Addict said:
Killer used to do that. But then he scored goals because he had a regular supply line be that flick-ons from Flanagan and Horsfield, through balls from Tydeman and Hunt or crosses from Powell, Peacock and Robinson. How many times a game have we been doing that for Kelman?J BLOCK said:
The same every time he plays. He also pretends to jump for headers. He's a passenger at this level, we need better.CafcSteve said:Thought that he was poor again today.
Barely tried when the ball came towards him.
Kelman has had 26 shots of which 17 have been on target and converted 6 of those. There isn't a striker in the division that is 63% on target. Even the top scorer in the division has an accuracy of 30 from 78 attempts - that's 38%.
The fact is that we are not set up on a game by game basis to score goals. We are set up not to concede. Only a team that has won one match from their last 46 games has scored less!
There are, for sure, elements of his game that he needs to work on but when our other forwards are struggling even more to find the net (Leaburn one goal all season in the Championship) then we have to accept that we will only get the best out of him when we play to his strengths.
Ok maybe his overall accuracy drops off if he's having way more shots, but you still expect him to at least double what he's scored now.
Kelman isn't the issue, the severe lack of pace and creativity in the side isEveryone knows this system isn’t designed for Kelman and he is a good finisher but he also severely lacks Godden’s level of movement, positioning and IQ to get those chances.He’s similar to a scarecrow offers absolutely nothing until the thing he’s designed for comes directly to him.
when your a battling side you can’t afford luxuries/passengers like Kelman but could potentially get away with it when surrounded by better players0 -
Godden coming on as a sub when defenders are tired and we're throwing everything at teams trying to get an equaliser isn't as comparable as you thinkCrispywood said:
Kelman has had 26 shots, Godden with 9x less mins has managed 8 shots in the exact same system which with Kelman’s minutes would put him on roughly 75 shots.sam3110 said:
Based on this, if he played in a side that creates loads of chances, you'd expect him to be on 18 goals this season, that would put him joint top with Vitopnik.Addick Addict said:
Killer used to do that. But then he scored goals because he had a regular supply line be that flick-ons from Flanagan and Horsfield, through balls from Tydeman and Hunt or crosses from Powell, Peacock and Robinson. How many times a game have we been doing that for Kelman?J BLOCK said:
The same every time he plays. He also pretends to jump for headers. He's a passenger at this level, we need better.CafcSteve said:Thought that he was poor again today.
Barely tried when the ball came towards him.
Kelman has had 26 shots of which 17 have been on target and converted 6 of those. There isn't a striker in the division that is 63% on target. Even the top scorer in the division has an accuracy of 30 from 78 attempts - that's 38%.
The fact is that we are not set up on a game by game basis to score goals. We are set up not to concede. Only a team that has won one match from their last 46 games has scored less!
There are, for sure, elements of his game that he needs to work on but when our other forwards are struggling even more to find the net (Leaburn one goal all season in the Championship) then we have to accept that we will only get the best out of him when we play to his strengths.
Ok maybe his overall accuracy drops off if he's having way more shots, but you still expect him to at least double what he's scored now.
Kelman isn't the issue, the severe lack of pace and creativity in the side isEveryone knows this system isn’t designed for Kelman and he is a good finisher but he also severely lacks Godden’s level of movement, positioning and IQ to get those chances.He’s similar to a scarecrow offers absolutely nothing until the thing he’s designed for comes directly to him.
when your a battling side you can’t afford luxuries/passengers like Kelman but could potentially get away with it when surrounded by better players2 -
It’s even more comparable than you think when you remember that lots of Kelman’s appearances have been off of the bench.sam3110 said:
Godden coming on as a sub when defenders are tired and we're throwing everything at teams trying to get an equaliser isn't as comparable as you thinkCrispywood said:
Kelman has had 26 shots, Godden with 9x less mins has managed 8 shots in the exact same system which with Kelman’s minutes would put him on roughly 75 shots.sam3110 said:
Based on this, if he played in a side that creates loads of chances, you'd expect him to be on 18 goals this season, that would put him joint top with Vitopnik.Addick Addict said:
Killer used to do that. But then he scored goals because he had a regular supply line be that flick-ons from Flanagan and Horsfield, through balls from Tydeman and Hunt or crosses from Powell, Peacock and Robinson. How many times a game have we been doing that for Kelman?J BLOCK said:
The same every time he plays. He also pretends to jump for headers. He's a passenger at this level, we need better.CafcSteve said:Thought that he was poor again today.
Barely tried when the ball came towards him.
Kelman has had 26 shots of which 17 have been on target and converted 6 of those. There isn't a striker in the division that is 63% on target. Even the top scorer in the division has an accuracy of 30 from 78 attempts - that's 38%.
The fact is that we are not set up on a game by game basis to score goals. We are set up not to concede. Only a team that has won one match from their last 46 games has scored less!
There are, for sure, elements of his game that he needs to work on but when our other forwards are struggling even more to find the net (Leaburn one goal all season in the Championship) then we have to accept that we will only get the best out of him when we play to his strengths.
Ok maybe his overall accuracy drops off if he's having way more shots, but you still expect him to at least double what he's scored now.
Kelman isn't the issue, the severe lack of pace and creativity in the side isEveryone knows this system isn’t designed for Kelman and he is a good finisher but he also severely lacks Godden’s level of movement, positioning and IQ to get those chances.He’s similar to a scarecrow offers absolutely nothing until the thing he’s designed for comes directly to him.
when your a battling side you can’t afford luxuries/passengers like Kelman but could potentially get away with it when surrounded by better players0 -
Godden coming on as a sub losing by 1 goalsam3110 said:
Godden coming on as a sub when defenders are tired and we're throwing everything at teams trying to get an equaliser isn't as comparable as you thinkCrispywood said:
Kelman has had 26 shots, Godden with 9x less mins has managed 8 shots in the exact same system which with Kelman’s minutes would put him on roughly 75 shots.sam3110 said:
Based on this, if he played in a side that creates loads of chances, you'd expect him to be on 18 goals this season, that would put him joint top with Vitopnik.Addick Addict said:
Killer used to do that. But then he scored goals because he had a regular supply line be that flick-ons from Flanagan and Horsfield, through balls from Tydeman and Hunt or crosses from Powell, Peacock and Robinson. How many times a game have we been doing that for Kelman?J BLOCK said:
The same every time he plays. He also pretends to jump for headers. He's a passenger at this level, we need better.CafcSteve said:Thought that he was poor again today.
Barely tried when the ball came towards him.
Kelman has had 26 shots of which 17 have been on target and converted 6 of those. There isn't a striker in the division that is 63% on target. Even the top scorer in the division has an accuracy of 30 from 78 attempts - that's 38%.
The fact is that we are not set up on a game by game basis to score goals. We are set up not to concede. Only a team that has won one match from their last 46 games has scored less!
There are, for sure, elements of his game that he needs to work on but when our other forwards are struggling even more to find the net (Leaburn one goal all season in the Championship) then we have to accept that we will only get the best out of him when we play to his strengths.
Ok maybe his overall accuracy drops off if he's having way more shots, but you still expect him to at least double what he's scored now.
Kelman isn't the issue, the severe lack of pace and creativity in the side isEveryone knows this system isn’t designed for Kelman and he is a good finisher but he also severely lacks Godden’s level of movement, positioning and IQ to get those chances.He’s similar to a scarecrow offers absolutely nothing until the thing he’s designed for comes directly to him.
when your a battling side you can’t afford luxuries/passengers like Kelman but could potentially get away with it when surrounded by better players
14/148 mins is 9.4%
Kelman coming as a sub losing by 1 goal
98/1378 mins is 7.1%.Argue it is sort of comparable when there’s only a 2% difference in situations.Kelman has got to get better in his overall game, otherwise he’s just going to become a reverse TC0
