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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Bristol City: Good Friday 3rd April 2026: KO 15:00

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  • Nug
    Nug Posts: 4,707
    Probably repeating what others have said, but as much as I love the effort that Coventry, Doc and Carey have put in this season, they will all need to be replaced next season if we want to progress. Pretty much every midfield I’ve seen this year have knocked it around us with composure. Chambers after a bright first couple of games looks a bit lost right now and Clarke didn’t have a great game yesterday.

    I came away a bit deflated yesterday, they are an average team in poor form and they looked to have so much more quality on the ball than us.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 27,402
    The lack of creativity in midfield is a choice from Nathan Jones. It’s not working. 
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,453
    To read the thread without knowing the score you’d think we’d been tonked. The way they repeatedly strolled through the middle was certainly disconcerting, but that game could very easily have ended as a draw and it would be an ‘onwards and upwards’ mood on here. 
    I just went on their forum and a lot of them felt they were lucky to win and were gifted the result by Mannion’s blunder. 
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 25,879
    Uboat said:
    To read the thread without knowing the score you’d think we’d been tonked. The way they repeatedly strolled through the middle was certainly disconcerting, but that game could very easily have ended as a draw and it would be an ‘onwards and upwards’ mood on here. 
    I just went on their forum and a lot of them felt they were lucky to win and were gifted the result by Mannion’s blunder. 

    100%...Also they had 12 men on the pitch, the other guy had a whistle and an agenda resulting in endless free kicks, one of which led to Mannion's OG...
  • Brown59
    Brown59 Posts: 288
    Reminds me of what happened few seasons back. We were 7 points clear and got relegated. Going the same way we look a side out of form completely. Loose Monday and the others win we are in real trouble. Portsmouth play Oxford if one wins omg we are in trouble. With Preston, Ipswich and Hull at home it’s going to be tough. Hopefully all will be well but he needs to start other players that are worth there place more than some. We can’t go down will be the end. 
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,548
    Uboat said:
    To read the thread without knowing the score you’d think we’d been tonked. The way they repeatedly strolled through the middle was certainly disconcerting, but that game could very easily have ended as a draw and it would be an ‘onwards and upwards’ mood on here. 
    I just went on their forum and a lot of them felt they were lucky to win and were gifted the result by Mannion’s blunder. 

    100%...Also they had 12 men on the pitch, the other guy had a whistle and an agenda resulting in endless free kicks, one of which led to Mannion's OG...
    I think he realised he'd dropped a big bollock for our goal, and spent the rest of the game trying to make up for it. 
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,458
    raytreacy said:
    I read somewhere that we have only scored 19 goals from open play this Season. I can’t verify that Stat but if true is an appalling statistic.
    About the same amount of goals at home mate. Ridiculous. Our games are like the old binary numbers...
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 19,094
    The lack of creativity in midfield is a choice from Nathan Jones. It’s not working. 
    Is it? Who’s being left out? And they went for Galbraith in the summer to address that issue
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 25,879
    Uboat said:
    To read the thread without knowing the score you’d think we’d been tonked. The way they repeatedly strolled through the middle was certainly disconcerting, but that game could very easily have ended as a draw and it would be an ‘onwards and upwards’ mood on here. 
    I just went on their forum and a lot of them felt they were lucky to win and were gifted the result by Mannion’s blunder. 

    100%...Also they had 12 men on the pitch, the other guy had a whistle and an agenda resulting in endless free kicks, one of which led to Mannion's OG...
    I think he realised he'd dropped a big bollock for our goal, and spent the rest of the game trying to make up for it. 
    Two wrongs don't make a right mate...the guy was just useless in every way!!
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,731
    edited April 4
    Bristol City can certainly pass and move with ease which is a real issue with Cafc this season but I didn't rate their defence who had injuries TBF but unlike Derby who hit them for five, yet again we were profligate with some clear cut chances from Carey, Godden and Campbell not hitting the onion bag.

    Charlton were so skittish and resembled Nathan on the touchline. Lloyd has had an excellent season but was all at sea yesterday and it was infectious with Will Mannion who has been excellent since getting the shirt back and was fine yesterday before and after his moment of mania 🤦🏼‍♂️

    In the 0-0 draw at City we negated the home side with Ramsay's outstanding MOM performance. Yesterday we were the polar opposite and Riis should've scored before the impressive Twine did score.

    I would've had both Godden and Kelman on in the last 10 minutes as the game was opening up and Dykes had run his race.
    Unfortunately Matty was rusty but still got his first chance on target which the keeper palmed away. 

    We are at the business end of the season and we are limping across the finishing line. 

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  • mid_life_crisis
    mid_life_crisis Posts: 3,329
    Uboat said:
    To read the thread without knowing the score you’d think we’d been tonked. The way they repeatedly strolled through the middle was certainly disconcerting, but that game could very easily have ended as a draw and it would be an ‘onwards and upwards’ mood on here. 
    I just went on their forum and a lot of them felt they were lucky to win and were gifted the result by Mannion’s blunder. 

    100%...Also they had 12 men on the pitch, the other guy had a whistle and an agenda resulting in endless free kicks, one of which led to Mannion's OG...
    I think he realised he'd dropped a big bollock for our goal, and spent the rest of the game trying to make up for it. 
    I said as much at the time and on the player marks thread. He was desparate to punish us for his own mistake.
    Did we not get on the wrong side of a thrown-in decision against Fulham in the Prem? I seem to recall it cost us dear.
  • Scratchingvalleycat
    Scratchingvalleycat Posts: 762
    edited April 5
    Moto said:
     Home supporters getting on the back of one of our own , pretty pathetic and embarrassing. Many other players out there who made poor mistakes and ones that should have scored, I didn't hear negative songs about them though?
    Absolutely agree and when you consider that Bell and Campbell played for Jamaica against Congo at 10 pm in Guadalajara on Tuesday night ( i make that 3 am in the UK), The match going to extra time, then had a 12 hour flight back to the UK it is not surprising both were tired and off the pace having arrive back in the UK either late night Wednesday or early Thursday. The wonder is why Jones played them both. Bell was clearly off the pace and  Lloyd Jones was javing to cover for him as well as doing his own job. For the first time TC was outpaced by a defender  (sitting in an aircraft for 12 hours does that to you) but still had his usual compliment of 2 defenders to closehim down.  Those facts alone should tell you that he is a good player, oppositio managers always have 2 players marking him because they know i
    He is dangerous. Our supporters who criticise hi. Should take a good look at themselves before asking why did N Jones play bothhim and Bell  in these circmstances.
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,595
    th0rryy said:
    I've got a horrible feeling we're gonna lose to Wednesday 
    Feel like at least one more team is going to feel that shame this season and, with how we play right now, we're as likely as anyone.
    Their last home game in this division, 
    Someone else said this today

    Not true. Sheff Wed play their last home game on the last day of the season against WBA.
      
    Fair enough I got it wrong, thought I read it a few days ago & didn't bother to check.
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,756
    edited April 4
    You reap what you sow and that performance deserved what it got from the players and the lack of idea from Jones and his staff.

    The midfield 3 again not good enough and sides find it easy to play through them. Coady must start on Monday and give Rankin-Costello and Fullah a go in there as well.

    4 home defeats in the last 5 is not acceptable and they need to buck their ideas up on Monday and at home v Preston next Saturday 
  • HastingsRed
    HastingsRed Posts: 1,751
    Nug said:
    Probably repeating what others have said, but as much as I love the effort that Coventry, Doc and Carey have put in this season, they will all need to be replaced next season if we want to progress. Pretty much every midfield I’ve seen this year have knocked it around us with composure. Chambers after a bright first couple of games looks a bit lost right now and Clarke didn’t have a great game yesterday.

    I came away a bit deflated yesterday, they are an average team in poor form and they looked to have so much more quality on the ball than us.
    Some serious money will need spending.....are the owners willing to invest the sort of money that will be needed if we are to move on?
  • Thought TC Carey and Godden all had good chances yesterday.
    If one of them goes in we might have gone on to get the 3 points to almost safety.
    With Ipswich and Hull at home soon I think we missed a crucial chance yesterday.
    Still need a win and a draw to be safe this season.
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,548
    Uboat said:
    To read the thread without knowing the score you’d think we’d been tonked. The way they repeatedly strolled through the middle was certainly disconcerting, but that game could very easily have ended as a draw and it would be an ‘onwards and upwards’ mood on here. 
    I just went on their forum and a lot of them felt they were lucky to win and were gifted the result by Mannion’s blunder. 

    100%...Also they had 12 men on the pitch, the other guy had a whistle and an agenda resulting in endless free kicks, one of which led to Mannion's OG...
    I think he realised he'd dropped a big bollock for our goal, and spent the rest of the game trying to make up for it. 
    Two wrongs don't make a right mate...the guy was just useless in every way!!
    I wasn't suggesting they did, I was just making an observation. 
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,548
    Uboat said:
    To read the thread without knowing the score you’d think we’d been tonked. The way they repeatedly strolled through the middle was certainly disconcerting, but that game could very easily have ended as a draw and it would be an ‘onwards and upwards’ mood on here. 
    I just went on their forum and a lot of them felt they were lucky to win and were gifted the result by Mannion’s blunder. 

    100%...Also they had 12 men on the pitch, the other guy had a whistle and an agenda resulting in endless free kicks, one of which led to Mannion's OG...
    I think he realised he'd dropped a big bollock for our goal, and spent the rest of the game trying to make up for it. 
    I said as much at the time and on the player marks thread. He was desparate to punish us for his own mistake.
    Did we not get on the wrong side of a thrown-in decision against Fulham in the Prem? I seem to recall it cost us dear.
    Correct, it's the incident I cite all the time when arguing about VAR. I still believe that single error changed the course of Charlton history and VAR would not have been able to intervene.  
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,731
    edited April 4
    Uboat said:
    To read the thread without knowing the score you’d think we’d been tonked. The way they repeatedly strolled through the middle was certainly disconcerting, but that game could very easily have ended as a draw and it would be an ‘onwards and upwards’ mood on here. 
    I just went on their forum and a lot of them felt they were lucky to win and were gifted the result by Mannion’s blunder. 

    100%...Also they had 12 men on the pitch, the other guy had a whistle and an agenda resulting in endless free kicks, one of which led to Mannion's OG...
    I think he realised he'd dropped a big bollock for our goal, and spent the rest of the game trying to make up for it. 
    I said as much at the time and on the player marks thread. He was desparate to punish us for his own mistake.
    Did we not get on the wrong side of a thrown-in decision against Fulham in the Prem? I seem to recall it cost us dear.

    A wrong decision by Graham Poll for a throw in, in one match wasn't the reason we were relegated out of the Premier over 38 matches ! 
    The decision by Graham Poll not to send off Robin Van Persie when he kicked out at a Cafc player was more telling as he went on to score that Volley at the Valley.
    I'm not sure if that was the same season but think it was  🤔

    I watched on Sky and I'm still not sure if the ball came off Clarke or the city lad for the throw in. The City bench possibly saw it clearer with the ball deflecting off Harry ?
    Just pleased that two strikers in Lyndon and Charlie combined so well on the GROUND to score a  goal in open play. Playing high balls to either Kelman or Campbell all are a waste of time.

    Also Charlton did commit fouls many clumsy like Coventry and Jones on the edge of our box including the one that led to Will Mannion's bar of soap moment.
    Clarke did catch the City player with his arm despite his pleading of innocence which was caused by frustration at the way the game had unfolded.

    The Jamaican game played in Mexico was a complete red herring as TC has missed chances when he has had a week's training at Sparrows lane.
    Not digging out just TC as Carey and Godden also missed clear cut chances with the goal gaping. 

    I try not to dig out players individually as trying to motivate a team when I was a kid's football manager and coach was about player and Parent management and teaching the player to be calmer and composed next time.

    I wonder if Linda gave Nathan an ear bashing when Apter was dropped  ?

  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 10,135
    Smithy said:
    NabySarr said:
    West stand were clapping Roy as he came out of the tunnel. Embarrassing 
    One of the weirdest things I’ve seen. Palace fan, failed England manager, what possible reason do they have to applaud him??
    Other side of that coin would be that he has had a managerial career spanning nearly 50 years and, at an age higher than UK male life expectancy, is taking charge of a Championship side. I get both arguments to be fair but, at the time, I saw it as a nice touch in an all-too-often hostile sporting world. 
    But we’re not bloody hostile enough anymore. He’s known to be a lifelong Palace fan. Perfect opportunity to reintroduce ’palace fan hanging on a string’. I don’t believe in carrying out the lyrics literally, and I don’t want violence in football really, but show him we don’t like Palace fans waltzing about The Valley.  Clapping - my arse.

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  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 4,259
    needed Collins  <3
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 10,135
    edited April 4
    Maybe we wouldn't have beaten Norwich with Godden! 

    The structure of our game and approach becoming a bit tough to watch. 
    Understatement of 21st Century football.  :D

    I had a teammate in the early 90s who enjoyed watching the Serie A matches on terrestrial TV at the time. I couldn't believe how dull it was and told him he’d be better off watching us. Ironically I was a defensive midfielder and he was a forward.

    We are now an even tougher watch than that. At least those Italian teams kept the ball on the ground. Not much to get enthusiastic about but there was that. Excuse the pun but now we’re supposed to cream ourselves over clean sheets. 

    As I sighed to someone in the pub last night ’one day we’ll have a different manager and I’ll re-find the love.’ I simply don’t believe NJ in that recent interview, promising that he will change our style of play.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 14,225
    NabySarr said:

    North upper yesterday 

    I'd say Godden's chance was harder to convert because of the defenders and keeper around him, whereas TC was in free air with time to spare, Godden would have lapped up that one, and that's not a direct dig at TC by the way...


    What defenders around him? He's been put completely through and has a second to think about where he's going to put it but gets a powderpuff contact and hits it right at the keeper. TC had a bit of time and decided to hit it as hard as he could which was a mistake because he ended up skying it but the chance Godden had was his bread and butter, it was the easiest chance of the day and it fell to the exact player you'd want to be receiving the ball in that position
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 58,790
    Smithy said:
    NabySarr said:
    West stand were clapping Roy as he came out of the tunnel. Embarrassing 
    One of the weirdest things I’ve seen. Palace fan, failed England manager, what possible reason do they have to applaud him??
    Other side of that coin would be that he has had a managerial career spanning nearly 50 years and, at an age higher than UK male life expectancy, is taking charge of a Championship side. I get both arguments to be fair but, at the time, I saw it as a nice touch in an all-too-often hostile sporting world. 
    But we’re not bloody hostile enough anymore. He’s known to be a lifelong Palace fan. Perfect opportunity to reintroduce ’palace fan hanging on a string’. I don’t believe in carrying out the lyrics literally, and I don’t want violence in football really, but show him we don’t like Palace fans waltzing about The Valley.  Clapping - my arse.
    WTF 🤷‍♂️
  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,823
    28/1 for relegation on William Hill as of today. Printing money at those odds. I can't see us even trying to dig in for a win until Swansea away last game.
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 10,135
    Smithy said:
    NabySarr said:
    West stand were clapping Roy as he came out of the tunnel. Embarrassing 
    One of the weirdest things I’ve seen. Palace fan, failed England manager, what possible reason do they have to applaud him??
    Other side of that coin would be that he has had a managerial career spanning nearly 50 years and, at an age higher than UK male life expectancy, is taking charge of a Championship side. I get both arguments to be fair but, at the time, I saw it as a nice touch in an all-too-often hostile sporting world. 
    But we’re not bloody hostile enough anymore. He’s known to be a lifelong Palace fan. Perfect opportunity to reintroduce ’palace fan hanging on a string’. I don’t believe in carrying out the lyrics literally, and I don’t want violence in football really, but show him we don’t like Palace fans waltzing about The Valley.  Clapping - my arse.
    WTF 🤷‍♂️


    If you disagree with that and do nothing then I understand.

    What I don’t understand is why anyone would actually clap. What positive thing has he ever done for us? He’s only ever helped arguably our biggest rivals and made a pig’s ear of our national team. So what if he’s 78 or spent 50 years in the game? As the first poster on this subject said, it’s weird. If we cite respect as the reason, then tell that first and foremost to fans that boo OUR OWN players! That’s a real WTF.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 14,225
    Smithy said:
    NabySarr said:
    West stand were clapping Roy as he came out of the tunnel. Embarrassing 
    One of the weirdest things I’ve seen. Palace fan, failed England manager, what possible reason do they have to applaud him??
    Other side of that coin would be that he has had a managerial career spanning nearly 50 years and, at an age higher than UK male life expectancy, is taking charge of a Championship side. I get both arguments to be fair but, at the time, I saw it as a nice touch in an all-too-often hostile sporting world. 
    But we’re not bloody hostile enough anymore. He’s known to be a lifelong Palace fan. Perfect opportunity to reintroduce ’palace fan hanging on a string’. I don’t believe in carrying out the lyrics literally, and I don’t want violence in football really, but show him we don’t like Palace fans waltzing about The Valley.  Clapping - my arse.
    WTF 🤷‍♂️


    If you disagree with that and do nothing then I understand.

    What I don’t understand is why anyone would actually clap. What positive thing has he ever done for us? He’s only ever helped arguably our biggest rivals and made a pig’s ear of our national team. So what if he’s 78 or spent 50 years in the game? As the first poster on this subject said, it’s weird. If we cite respect as the reason, then tell that first and foremost to fans that boo OUR OWN players! That’s a real WTF.
    I think there's quite a lot of space you can occupy between 'don't boo that old grandad' and 'hang Crystal Palace fans in effigy'
  • Last 5 homes - W1 D0 L4
    Last 5 aways - W2 D3 L0
    Maybe it’s time for a Curbs and Gritt type team management structure. Nathan can take care of the away games and we bring in someone that can come up with a gameplan for home matches and how to score goals at the Valley
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,653
    Not one to usually pick holes on Nathan's press conference, but think he's got it wrong to complain (in part) about the scheduling of the World Cup Qualifiers... Think he's right to complain that the games were basically in the early hours of Wednesday, what with domestic games on the Friday, that could have been scheduled better by FIFA. But he's got to remember it wasn't just Jamaica and Congo involved, there were four other teams as part of a mini Play-Off tournament to reach the World Cup, and made sense to have it on neutral ground where the hosts are playing, because you've got countries involved from all confederations, baring Europe.
    Bizarre though how Bell got one flight, and Campbell got another. But from previous International Windows, that sounds a bit of another complaint as to how inept the Jamaican Football Federation have been of late, and seems to fall on the players to organise these things themselves.
    Credit to Bell if he landed back at 11am on Thursday, and went straight to Sparrows Lane, as again going by Jones' comments, it was Campbell (who getting back at 5pm) was the one who didnt get a chance to do any training.
    It could well be that you know more about this than me (in fact, that's all but certain), but is it necessarily a fault of the Jamaican FA? They are both grown adults and both familiar with air travel, perhaps it just suited their personal circumstances to travel separately. In fact, when I was working I'd always prefer to travel solo than go with colleagues - and usually, given how easy it was, I guess they must have felt the same ;) Not that we ever went those distances.
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 25,879
    Stig said:
    Not one to usually pick holes on Nathan's press conference, but think he's got it wrong to complain (in part) about the scheduling of the World Cup Qualifiers... Think he's right to complain that the games were basically in the early hours of Wednesday, what with domestic games on the Friday, that could have been scheduled better by FIFA. But he's got to remember it wasn't just Jamaica and Congo involved, there were four other teams as part of a mini Play-Off tournament to reach the World Cup, and made sense to have it on neutral ground where the hosts are playing, because you've got countries involved from all confederations, baring Europe.
    Bizarre though how Bell got one flight, and Campbell got another. But from previous International Windows, that sounds a bit of another complaint as to how inept the Jamaican Football Federation have been of late, and seems to fall on the players to organise these things themselves.
    Credit to Bell if he landed back at 11am on Thursday, and went straight to Sparrows Lane, as again going by Jones' comments, it was Campbell (who getting back at 5pm) was the one who didnt get a chance to do any training.
    It could well be that you know more about this than me (in fact, that's all but certain), but is it necessarily a fault of the Jamaican FA? They are both grown adults and both familiar with air travel, perhaps it just suited their personal circumstances to travel separately. In fact, when I was working I'd always prefer to travel solo than go with colleagues - and usually, given how easy it was, I guess they must have felt the same ;) Not that we ever went those distances.

    One could and the other couldn't give a fu*k...😉