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Will Mannion Signs on 3 year contract

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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 18,253
    Crispywood said:
    Kaminski back in for Wednesday? 
    No mate, we played them today
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,824
    I'd argue that our gutless display and negative formation cost us points today.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 18,279
    Neither of them are good enough.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 66,079
    Talal said:
    I'd argue that our gutless display and negative formation cost us points today.
    And yet we would have won 1-0 with it.
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 7,779
    Two big errors - some good stuff in between but no faith in him as our number one.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 22,941
    Talal said:
    I'd argue that our gutless display and negative formation cost us points today.
    And I'd argue that we've had games like that with Kaminski in goal and hung on to clean sheets. Mannion is nowhere near the level required for this league and is riding on a wave of sentiment from last season and not being on 20k a week
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,824
    Callumcafc said:
    Talal said:
    I'd argue that our gutless display and negative formation cost us points today.
    And yet we would have won 1-0 with it.
    Unless you have a crystal ball you don't know what would've happened had Mannion claimed that ball. Different sequence of events.
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,824
    edited April 18
    sam3110 said:
    Talal said:
    I'd argue that our gutless display and negative formation cost us points today.
    And I'd argue that we've had games like that with Kaminski in goal and hung on to clean sheets. Mannion is nowhere near the level required for this league and is riding on a wave of sentiment from last season and not being on 20k a week
    Kaminski has been no more than average at best but you'll probably just tell me to fuck off. Seems to be your way.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 14,315
    Wednesday didn't create any meaningful chances all game, the way we defended we should have been able to rely on a 1-0 win but Mannion has failed at the thing he's best at and gifted them a goal from nothing. The irony is Kaminski would have punched that and the danger would have gone. If you go up for a catch you have to make it, it's why it's safer to punch even if it's not popular with this country's football fans. That's two really bad errors he's made that have cost us points in situations where we weren't really under significant pressure in a game. Really frustrating
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 5,046
    That’s two very poor mistakes that’s cost us 3 points … no need to come out in a crowded area ….. frustrating cause they never looked like scoring and there nothing a manager can do about that   

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  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 17,152
    I’ve said time and again that goalkeeper is a position to invest in as you can get far better VFM compared to strikers. Yet I agree neither of our starters are top Championship keepers and that’s what we need.
  • Jdredsox
    Jdredsox Posts: 582
    Mannion had a great punch earlier in the game with a similar situation and inexplicably tried to catch it for the goal.

    He's single-handedly cost us 3 points this season. Watford he did well, but the inconsistency is unacceptable at this level. 

    He is what he is, a league one keeper and needs to go back there.
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,925
    edited April 18
    When I first saw the goal, I thought it was a foul, when I watched the replay, I thought it was another clanger, and another 2 points dropped, frustrating.
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,824
    Garrymanilow said:
    Wednesday didn't create any meaningful chances all game, the way we defended we should have been able to rely on a 1-0 win but Mannion has failed at the thing he's best at and gifted them a goal from nothing. The irony is Kaminski would have punched that and the danger would have gone. If you go up for a catch you have to make it, it's why it's safer to punch even if it's not popular with this country's football fans. That's two really bad errors he's made that have cost us points in situations where we weren't really under significant pressure in a game. Really frustrating
    No meaningful chances but should've had a penalty.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,743
    Mannion was signed as a backup in League One, time to stop this nonsense and have Kaminski back in between the sticks for the last few games.
  • Bostonaddick
    Bostonaddick Posts: 967
    Talal said:
    sam3110 said:
    Talal said:
    I'd argue that our gutless display and negative formation cost us points today.
    And I'd argue that we've had games like that with Kaminski in goal and hung on to clean sheets. Mannion is nowhere near the level required for this league and is riding on a wave of sentiment from last season and not being on 20k a week
    Kaminski has been no more than average at best but you'll probably just tell me to fuck off. Seems to be your way.
    Kaminski is average at best but it is looking like Mannion is well below average at best. He had the one game where he was fantastic but has not been good other than that.
  • _uptheaddicks
    _uptheaddicks Posts: 339
    Thanks Will.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 14,315
    Talal said:
    Garrymanilow said:
    Wednesday didn't create any meaningful chances all game, the way we defended we should have been able to rely on a 1-0 win but Mannion has failed at the thing he's best at and gifted them a goal from nothing. The irony is Kaminski would have punched that and the danger would have gone. If you go up for a catch you have to make it, it's why it's safer to punch even if it's not popular with this country's football fans. That's two really bad errors he's made that have cost us points in situations where we weren't really under significant pressure in a game. Really frustrating
    No meaningful chances but should've had a penalty.
    Sure, but that's a different player doing a different insane thing in an area where they were going nowhere. We're lucky that Burke wasn't properly punished for that tackle, Mannion was. They both need beating with a sack of oranges
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 27,553
    Was it a foul?
  • Redvalleyeast
    Redvalleyeast Posts: 5,053
    The Red Robin said:
    Was it a foul?
    No

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  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 27,553
    Redvalleyeast said:
    The Red Robin said:
    Was it a foul?
    No
    I didn’t think so at the game but haven’t seen it back. 
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,824
    The Red Robin said:
    Was it a foul?
    No, definite error. We need better but I'd be happy to keep Mannion as back up and move Kaminski on.
  • Redvalleyeast
    Redvalleyeast Posts: 5,053
    The Red Robin said:
    Redvalleyeast said:
    The Red Robin said:
    Was it a foul?
    No
    I didn’t think so at the game but haven’t seen it back. 
    Mannion was under pressure from their man but he fumbled the ball, there was no foul.
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,460
    Talal said:
    I'd argue that our gutless display and negative formation cost us points today.
    Don’t disagree but there’s also no denying the fact that his mistake led to their goal and 2 points dropped.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 22,941
    Talal said:
    sam3110 said:
    Talal said:
    I'd argue that our gutless display and negative formation cost us points today.
    And I'd argue that we've had games like that with Kaminski in goal and hung on to clean sheets. Mannion is nowhere near the level required for this league and is riding on a wave of sentiment from last season and not being on 20k a week
    Kaminski has been no more than average at best but you'll probably just tell me to fuck off. Seems to be your way.
    Average is better than what Mannion would have been across the 46 games
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 27,553
    Talal said:
    The Red Robin said:
    Was it a foul?
    No, definite error. We need better but I'd be happy to keep Mannion as back up and move Kaminski on.
    Redvalleyeast said:
    The Red Robin said:
    Redvalleyeast said:
    The Red Robin said:
    Was it a foul?
    No
    I didn’t think so at the game but haven’t seen it back. 
    Mannion was under pressure from their man but he fumbled the ball, there was no foul.
    Just watched it back. What a clanger.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,366
    Garrymanilow said:
    Wednesday didn't create any meaningful chances all game, the way we defended we should have been able to rely on a 1-0 win but Mannion has failed at the thing he's best at and gifted them a goal from nothing. The irony is Kaminski would have punched that straight into a defender's head and into the net. If you go up for a catch you have to make it, it's why it can be safer, but less controlled, to punch even if it's not popular with this country's football fans. That's two really bad errors he's made that have cost us points in situations where we weren't really under significant pressure in a game. Really frustrating

  • Radostanradical
    Radostanradical Posts: 1,224
    Needless to say, I have had the last laugh.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,781
    Kaminski had a strop at Oxford when he wasn’t brought back in to the team, apparently done an aerobic warm up and just left the pitch. Jones is not keen on him and his attitude and wants him out hence his reluctance to pick him but yesterday may force the issue .
    Both pony like 95% of the squad jog em all on 
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 30,000
    oohaahmortimer said:
    Kaminski had a strop at Oxford when he wasn’t brought back in to the team, apparently done an aerobic warm up and just left the pitch. Jones is not keen on him and his attitude and wants him out hence his reluctance to pick him but yesterday may force the issue .
    Both pony like 95% of the squad jog em all on 
    Think so, to make one error and cost us points is excusable, but two in a few games will cost him his place in the team.

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