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***Sonny Carey signs a three year deal***
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It’s decision making ultimately. When to release the ball/pass and when to shoot. Some gamesForeverAddickted said:
I mean Jones said it himself after Saturday, you cant fault him for the goals he's scored this season, but he really needs to work on his assistsThe Red Robin said:My only real criticism of Carey is that I wish he’d just get his head up more and have a look sometimes. He is far from our problem right now though.
this season he’d take the shot when it was never on.2 -
I think he has been knackered second half of season and is adjusting to this level. Hopefully a rest and refreshed for new season and he will come on for it. Theres a player there5
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Agree, but you could make a case that the manager could have been braver with playing Fullah there.Leuth said:But his lack of presence and vision has been a major factor in us not laying a glove on so many sides throughout the second half of this season...
He was tidier with the ball yesterday. I think it might have got into his head to play in a 'Roy of the Rovers' style.0 -
The problem is, without the Roy of the Rovers stuff (which normally results in him smashing the ball into row z when a decent pass might have been on) I’m not sure how much else he really contributes?mendonca said:
Agree, but you could make a case that the manager could have been braver with playing Fullah there.Leuth said:But his lack of presence and vision has been a major factor in us not laying a glove on so many sides throughout the second half of this season...
He was tidier with the ball yesterday. I think it might have got into his head to play in a 'Roy of the Rovers' style.
I’d probably be ok with retaining him as a squad player, but if he starts as many games next season as he did this then I’ll have concerns. If there’s a market for him this summer, which his goal record could generate, then I’d happily sell.2 -
IMO he's an attacking midfielder who has been asked to play in a more central box-to-box role. He's done well to get 8 goals, and at times I've not minded his shoot-on-sight mantra, simply because he hasn't got players around him who would be clinical enough to finish chances.1
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Phew glad that's over, looking forward to being in the Champ next season and hoping for at least a few more seasons to come. It's good football, decent number of away fans at the Valley every week and some good away places to go to.
The accident of birth geography makes me a Charlton supporter, I'm proud that's the case and there's nowhere else and no other team I'd choose.
Quite the season one way or another, next season, no matter what the table looks like, I'm going to try harder to remember those immortal words 'Don't panic Captain Mainwaring'.
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and his goals are the only reason we’re still in the division in the first place. Top scorer w 0 pens has to be taken into considerationLeuth said:But his lack of presence and vision has been a major factor in us not laying a glove on so many sides throughout the second half of this season...5 -
Good strong striker of the ball and eye for goal but general play and awareness could be better - was exceptionally sharp early in the season but couldn't maintain it - one of the 3 central midfield positions we need to upgrade0
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Think we’ve all seen Carey has dropped off a bit recently, and some have been saying they don’t think he should be starting next season, but I think some important context has been missing from the discussion
Carey has played in all 46 games this season, with 40 of them being starts. The last 3 seasons he’s started 23, 23 and 26 games. So he’s gone up to a more intense level and played a lot more games than he ever has in his careerDue to Knibbs injuries we’ve been over-reliant on Carey and that has definitely taken its toll on him in the latter part of the season. Fully expect that he will be back to his best come August and a key player for us next season13 -
If an offer came him for him do you think that we would be tempted?1
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Why would we? Unless it’s for silly money. Even if we bring in better quality we need a squad and he’s definitely worth keeping.AberystwythAddick said:If an offer came him for him do you think that we would be tempted?3 -
Think it all comes down to money that would be offered. If other clubs haven't done their research like we clearly didn't with some of our signings you look at the 10 G/A in a championship team who doesn't score and that may heavily inflate his price without considering he doesn't offer too much outside that at this stage. I can't imagine we'd be actively looking to sell him though.AberystwythAddick said:If an offer came him for him do you think that we would be tempted?0 -
Way too protective? We would be in league one if it wasn’t for Sonny.Callumcafc said:
You’re being way too protective. (It’s his third season at this level.)cafc_se7 said:You lot need to pinch yourselves. Blackpool fans are entitled to their opinion of him but bladdy hell he is in his first full championship season in a completely new side with new players, he deserves a huge amount of credit, not doubting!Seriously I am amazed by some of the expectations on here after the large amount of dross we have been forced to consume over recent years!
He’s been a crucial player for us this year but he’s also playing in a key position and giving us almost nothing in terms of keeping the ball moving and unlocking defences.
He’s scored important goals and he’s a valuable asset to the squad as long as he keeps doing that. But he needs competition from someone who offers something different / more than just the odd pot shot.He’ll have a place here for years. Nathan Jones has always loved someone who can pop up out of nowhere with a winning or equalising goal - just look at how many years he’s held on to Luke Berry.A creative player in his role would have been wasted this season due to the way we have played. If NJ switches it up in season two then I’m in your boat. For the meantime have some respect..2 -
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some very harsh criticism on here of him.
he's a long way down the list of players I'd happily never see pull our shirt on again.
first season at this level and yes he tired towards the end, but with Knibbs injury there was no real chance to rotate him.
I still maintain that he wasn't bought in to be first choice, Knibbs was and he would've played back up to him, but circumstances dictated it
think he'll improve with a couple of better midfielders alongside him11 -
We're Charlton, every player is always available for the right the price - there's only a very few select clubs in all of world football who are in a financial and reputational position to think differently to that.AberystwythAddick said:If an offer came him for him do you think that we would be tempted?
What the right price is, is up for debate. I like Sonny and while he couldn't maintain the incredibly high standard he set early season, that also goes for the team as a unit so it's understandable and I think he (like a few others) has suffered from some overblown criticism.
Also, while I like Carey, there is a nagging doubt he might be a one-year wonder where he finished 2024/25 strongly and Blackpool and carried that into last season with us, before it petered out in the second half of the season. He has the potential to improve, but there's also a real chance this is as high as his value will get and cashing in now might support a wider rebuild of the midfield, which we desperately need.2 -
Would not look to sell Carey but have a feeling he’s the type of player where the output numbers on paper exceed the player ability on grass like a Bonne (obviously nowhere near as bad). I think if a offer did come in it we could probably get more than what he’s realistically worth2
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I think he has had a much better season than some comments on here would suggest. I expect him to improve further. Yes, players do improve but the point he improves from is pretty high Championship.2
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I said I think he has a place here? And I never said he wasn’t important to us this year.cafc_se7 said:
Way too protective? We would be in league one if it wasn’t for Sonny.Callumcafc said:
You’re being way too protective. (It’s his third season at this level.)cafc_se7 said:You lot need to pinch yourselves. Blackpool fans are entitled to their opinion of him but bladdy hell he is in his first full championship season in a completely new side with new players, he deserves a huge amount of credit, not doubting!Seriously I am amazed by some of the expectations on here after the large amount of dross we have been forced to consume over recent years!
He’s been a crucial player for us this year but he’s also playing in a key position and giving us almost nothing in terms of keeping the ball moving and unlocking defences.
He’s scored important goals and he’s a valuable asset to the squad as long as he keeps doing that. But he needs competition from someone who offers something different / more than just the odd pot shot.He’ll have a place here for years. Nathan Jones has always loved someone who can pop up out of nowhere with a winning or equalising goal - just look at how many years he’s held on to Luke Berry.A creative player in his role would have been wasted this season due to the way we have played. If NJ switches it up in season two then I’m in your boat. For the meantime have some respect..
Looking towards the future, I don’t think Sonny gets into any of the starting XIs of the top six in this league, maybe none of the sides in the top half.
That was my point. Creativity and chance creation was at a premium over the last 12 months - and that’s why having someone who could pop up with the odd decisive goal from 15-20 yards every few weeks was crucial. But I suspect it’s an area of the pitch we’ll want some reinforcements going forward.
Again, look at how NJ liked to use Berry at Luton and here. A go to man who had a habit of popping up with important goals. That’s my expectation for Carey’s role in the coming years.2 -
He played for Blackpool in the championship for 2 seasons.Elthamaddick said:some very harsh criticism on here of him.
he's a long way down the list of players I'd happily never see pull our shirt on again.
first season at this level and yes he tired towards the end, but with Knibbs injury there was no real chance to rotate him.
I still maintain that he wasn't bought in to be first choice, Knibbs was and he would've played back up to him, but circumstances dictated it
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Like TC, I expect him to get better/look better with better players around him. Especially in central midfield.1
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Some really poor decisions with the ball in the past two games. Was hoping he'd put some work into this over summer.
In a system where there are options with the ball, it's unforgivable choosing the wrong decision again and again.2 -
I wonder if the new system hasnt evolved beyond him. Last year having him piling on to take a shot and grab goals was useful, this year with the added emphasis on interplay and building moves as a team, his heads-down type of play is not working._uptheaddicks said:Some really poor decisions with the ball in the past two games. Was hoping he'd put some work into this over summer.
In a system where there are options with the ball, it's unforgivable choosing the wrong decision again and again.
Id hope he can learn and develop to suit this system more but on current evidence his place in the side is threatened.2 -
He was a bit of a weak link yesterday but I’d stick with him for a while.
He takes up some great positions and is a strong runner with the ball. What is letting him down at the moment is his decision making in terms of when to release and who to release to. This should be easy to coach into him using copious videos and training ground simulations of these situations.
He has more quality than he’s being given credit for and is still relatively young.3 -
Still got the assist for LJ goal.3
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And he’s scored this season. Out of form but worth sticking with , in my opinionWeegie Addick said:Still got the assist for LJ goal.1 -
I dont think his decision making yesterday made him the weak link tho.He brought the ball forward / up the pitch many times. Connected play. Helped the defence. Worked hard. An compete at this level.I get baffled as to how some fans cant see what he is good at. Its not all scoring or assists, although if he does improve his decision making, he will be some player.2
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I think he’s pretty vital to the way we play. He works hard, and he can drive us up the pitch with his dribbling when we counter.
Definitely feels like he has a tendency to take an extra touch when he should release the ball, and he’s made the wrong decision a few times these last couple of games.
But not sure our other options would even get into those sort of positions to make those errors.2 -
He’s also still getting used to the new system. The way I saw it was that he was getting his head up more than last season but just slightly lacking the quality when he did, that’s still a progression and shows he’s working on it1
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Like many of our players if Carey had decision making he wouldn't be a Charlton player, shown he has a very good record of scoring at this level and carries the ball very well. It needs to improve but that doesn't make him a liability3
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