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You're the Board - what are the targets and expectations for the 26/27 season?
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It's harsh and I am probably forgetting someone but aside from lloyd Jones I wouldn't be truly that upset if anyone else left - we really have to kick on and I am encouraged by Nathan's words, but easy to say and hard to do what he wants to!0
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I can certainly see where you are coming from with this. It’s paramount. What I would say though is that at some point we have to be more than a perennial survivor. If there is ambition within the ownership and manager there has to be the intention and wherewithal to improve season on season. Mid table and never in danger would be my goal and if I was being really really optimistic I’d say sniffing at 8th place. Of course any progression relies on recruitment, the manager and to some extent luck but I feel I have to look for more than just survival.fenaddick said:Clearly my expectations are lower than everyone else as I just don't want to get relegated. I think NJ will outperform that expectation but for now I just want to be in the Championship for 27/280 -
I feel like (in general, not just with you) there’s a feeling that progressing up the table with a few signings will be relatively easy. Everyone else will be hoping for the same and will also be making signings. I understand that goals have to be ambitious but they have to be realistic too. Lots of people underestimated the jump in quality between the divisions and it feels like similar is happening againShootersHillGuru said:
I can certainly see where you are coming from with this. It’s paramount. What I would say though is that at some point we have to be more than a perennial survivor. If there is ambition within the ownership and manager there has to be the intention and wherewithal to improve season on season. Mid table and never in danger would be my goal and if I was being really really optimistic I’d say sniffing at 8th place. Of course any progression relies on recruitment, the manager and to some extent luck but I feel I have to look for more than just survival.fenaddick said:Clearly my expectations are lower than everyone else as I just don't want to get relegated. I think NJ will outperform that expectation but for now I just want to be in the Championship for 27/282 -
Five of the six? The ones coming down yes but none of the three coming up are stronger than any of those departing, in my opinion.addickson said:Survival. 5 out of the 6 teams moving into our league are considerably stronger than the 6 teams leaving. But as a board member I'll need to content myself to spending serious money to stand still in terms of league placing2 -
Not even a bad take considering other championship clubs will strengthen as well. 2nd season syndrome is a big thing at this level as well. I’m ok with not necessarily improving positional wise as Long as we’re not averaging 30% possession, or have the lowest passing accuracy in the league or ending up practically bottom for goals and expected goalsfenaddick said:Clearly my expectations are lower than everyone else as I just don't want to get relegated. I think NJ will outperform that expectation but for now I just want to be in the Championship for 27/28
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I think second season syndrome is something but I also think our first 13 or so will be very different to that of this season. No baggage to carry forward from this years struggle so I’m hopeful.Crispywood said:
Not even a bad take considering other championship clubs will strengthen as well. 2nd season syndrome is a big thing at this level as well. I’m ok with not necessarily improving positional wise as Long as we’re not averaging 30% possession, or have the lowest passing accuracy in the league or ending up practically bottom for goals and expected goalsfenaddick said:Clearly my expectations are lower than everyone else as I just don't want to get relegated. I think NJ will outperform that expectation but for now I just want to be in the Championship for 27/280 -
2nd season for Oxford was relegation, for Pompey, a relegation struggle and late survival while for Derby it meant missing out on the play-offs on the final day.ShootersHillGuru said:
I think second season syndrome is something but I also think our first 13 or so will be very different to that of this season. No baggage to carry forward from this years struggle so I’m hopeful.Crispywood said:
Not even a bad take considering other championship clubs will strengthen as well. 2nd season syndrome is a big thing at this level as well. I’m ok with not necessarily improving positional wise as Long as we’re not averaging 30% possession, or have the lowest passing accuracy in the league or ending up practically bottom for goals and expected goalsfenaddick said:Clearly my expectations are lower than everyone else as I just don't want to get relegated. I think NJ will outperform that expectation but for now I just want to be in the Championship for 27/28
I believe the owners have a longer term view than "lets play nice football" and more patience that quite a few fans.
They will want to see progress on the pitch but crucially off it too; bigger crowds, more commercial income, better player trading, greater efficiency, better leadership, more investment partners,11 -
Yes they seem more patient, all of those examples pretty much depend on a certain level of performance on the pitch most importantly, I’m sure the owners are aware of this, I’m really interested to see the approach from now on. As simple as it sounds, it’s quite refreshing to have what seem pretty normal owners again!!Henry Irving said:
2nd season for Oxford was relegation, for Pompey, a relegation struggle and late survival while for Derby it meant missing out on the play-offs on the final day.ShootersHillGuru said:
I think second season syndrome is something but I also think our first 13 or so will be very different to that of this season. No baggage to carry forward from this years struggle so I’m hopeful.Crispywood said:
Not even a bad take considering other championship clubs will strengthen as well. 2nd season syndrome is a big thing at this level as well. I’m ok with not necessarily improving positional wise as Long as we’re not averaging 30% possession, or have the lowest passing accuracy in the league or ending up practically bottom for goals and expected goalsfenaddick said:Clearly my expectations are lower than everyone else as I just don't want to get relegated. I think NJ will outperform that expectation but for now I just want to be in the Championship for 27/28
I believe the owners have a longer term view than "lets play nice football" and more patience that quite a few fans.
They will want to see progress on the pitch but crucially off it too; bigger crowds, more commercial income, better player trading, greater efficiency, better leadership, more investment partners,1 -
For this league we have a low quality squad, because of our bottom three budget, and we can’t afford to wait for partnerships to develop, there’s an argument that these players are already playing well above their own abilities, they’re not going to get better. Other teams worked out how play against us eventually and NJ had to react. Bringing in good signings in January and tweaking the style to get over the line. That’s a sign of a great manager, one who is willing to adapt once a strategy stops working.NabySarr said:
Our best period of the season had a pretty settled formula up top of Kelman and TC starting and running themselves into the ground, before Leaburn and Olaofe came on and we went more direct.Weegie Addick said:One of my aims for next season would be to achieve a more settled line-up and build strong partnerships. We achieved that in middle of defence with the trio of Ramsay, Jones, Bell. We have seen it in the past with Edwards and TC on the left. The midfield of Doc / Cov / Carey worked to begin with but we got found out and definitely need to upgrade there. We have no settled partnership up front.Successful teams tend to have a really solid foundation and of course ride their luck a bit with injuries across the season. I do think any squad rebuild / strengthening should have that goal in mind - we’ve suffered from way too much chopping and changing this year, some enforced but also a lot of NJ tinkering.I think Jones changes things too much when we are losing and almost tries to stumble upon a winning formula that he will then stick too. But he’d maybe sometimes be better off sticking with a team even if we lose, and as you say letting those partnerships build3 -
We’ve set a baseline this season with 13 wins. That is the absolute minimum going forward. Would hope we’re targeting 15-16 wins next season in order to continue progressing.
What that does mean though is 30 odd games that we won’t win, not significantly different to the number thjs year. And at times this past season was a tough watch.
Only seven teams got 20+ wins and they all sat in the top 8 of the table. That should be our ultimate goal in two or three years from now.
13 wins this year, to 15-16 next year, to 18-19 the following year and so on.5 -
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15 wins and 15 draws is 60 points.Callumcafc said:We’ve set a baseline this season with 13 wins. That is the absolute minimum going forward. Would hope we’re targeting 15-16 wins next season in order to continue progressing.
What that does mean though is 30 odd games that we won’t win, not significantly different to the number thjs year. And at times this past season was a tough watch.
Only seven teams got 20+ wins and they all sat in the top 8 of the table. That should be our ultimate goal in two or three years from now.
13 wins this year, to 15-16 next year, to 18-19 the following year and so on.3 -
Same old song I'm afraid, all depends on what we (the board) can rustle up to spend. Be good to get another money man or three onto the board, chaps who are keen to invest in this super, progressive, ambitious club. We are always looking for committed investors.
At a minimum, we will give Nathan Jones the capital to strengthen the side, either to cement ourselves as a Championship club or to be more ambitious and to make a stab at the play offs. All depends on the Money Money and Money we can make available
My job is to ensure that whatever money is allocated to signings and player contracts, is better spent than the money given last summer which was mostly wasted
We need to ensure that players like L. Jones, Ramsay, Edwards (if fully fit) and Carey are given contracts lucrative enough to keep them at the club, we need to be very selective in who we sign and for how long. To ensure that all signings new and old are fully fit and not potentially injury prone passengers. All areas of the team need strengthening. A striker who actually scores a few is a priority.
I expect to see a quite large turnover in players. Many of the current squad are not good enough. This will happen irrespective of funding, we will cut out coats according to the quality of the 'cloth' we can afford.
Our scouts need to thoroughly assess their targets. Access to a quality player database would be fanstastic, although the 'data dons' would need paying very well for such access.
We, the board must let the player management manage whilst still overseeing how our money is spent
Survival as a Championship club is imperative as a minimum. We also need to play a more attractive form of the game whilst still maintaining a strong defence. All this won't come cheap and will need a lot of effort from everyone at the club. We will also need the fans to be as patient and generous as they have been for the past years.
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Be average
Pos. 10 to 16
Cup run playing two rounds in each of the Cups, subject to the draw
Average gates of 22,500
Goals scored to match or better the divisions average per game.
Consistent team selection.
Men's and women's teams backed with investment.
Off field
Hospitality to be taken in house.
Players to be allowed to attend supporters group meetings again.
Player of the year function to be reinstated.1 -
That would suit me just fineHenry Irving said:
15 wins and 15 draws is 60 points.Callumcafc said:We’ve set a baseline this season with 13 wins. That is the absolute minimum going forward. Would hope we’re targeting 15-16 wins next season in order to continue progressing.
What that does mean though is 30 odd games that we won’t win, not significantly different to the number thjs year. And at times this past season was a tough watch.
Only seven teams got 20+ wins and they all sat in the top 8 of the table. That should be our ultimate goal in two or three years from now.
13 wins this year, to 15-16 next year, to 18-19 the following year and so on.1 -
That would mean still losing more games than we win. The aim should be to win more games than we lose.Henry Irving said:
15 wins and 15 draws is 60 points.Callumcafc said:We’ve set a baseline this season with 13 wins. That is the absolute minimum going forward. Would hope we’re targeting 15-16 wins next season in order to continue progressing.
What that does mean though is 30 odd games that we won’t win, not significantly different to the number thjs year. And at times this past season was a tough watch.
Only seven teams got 20+ wins and they all sat in the top 8 of the table. That should be our ultimate goal in two or three years from now.
13 wins this year, to 15-16 next year, to 18-19 the following year and so on.
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Arsenal play the worst football on the planet if you believe everything you read and listen to yet they are doing OK.
Someone wise once said, "just win games".
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Come from a family of Arsenal fans, and they give zero fucks about style, they just want to win0
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Set up an international football programme and build links in countries such as South Africa0
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The HOPE should be win more than lose but I wouldn't say it's the aim (yet). Even with the hoped-for improvements, chances are we still won't be going toe to toe with the bigger more established teams consistently.letthegoodtimesroll said:
That would mean still losing more games than we win. The aim should be to win more games than we lose.Henry Irving said:
15 wins and 15 draws is 60 points.Callumcafc said:We’ve set a baseline this season with 13 wins. That is the absolute minimum going forward. Would hope we’re targeting 15-16 wins next season in order to continue progressing.
What that does mean though is 30 odd games that we won’t win, not significantly different to the number thjs year. And at times this past season was a tough watch.
Only seven teams got 20+ wins and they all sat in the top 8 of the table. That should be our ultimate goal in two or three years from now.
13 wins this year, to 15-16 next year, to 18-19 the following year and so on.
Hopefully we won't have too many poor runs of losing multiple games on the bounce but there will realistically be quite a few stretches of picking up the odd point here and there over a few weeks.0 -
Not forgetting Mount Pleasant as wellHenry Irving said:Set up an international football programme and build links in countries such as South Africa
https://www.charltonafc.com/news/charlton-partner-mount-pleasant-academy
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https://www.charltonafc.com/news/international-football-programme-launched-south-africaHenry Irving said:Set up an international football programme and build links in countries such as South Africa0 -
And Sweden, Denmark and the USA, going off Steve Brown’s quote in Cawley’s article on the South Africa link.Henry Irving said:Set up an international football programme and build links in countries such as South Africa0
