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Miles Leaburn - Signs New 3 Year Contract (p77)
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I do remember. It was right around the time that a number of people on here were also saying Miles transfer value was 10million. It just goes to show that fans (myself included) don’t know what we are talking about0
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I saw him out with his bird at a rooftop pool a couple of weeks ago. She was yapping away with people next to them in her bikini and having a few drinks… Leaburn looked bored as f*ck just on his phone the whole time!
I think he's a very good player or certainly a very good player inside him - and will improve. With the right any service0 -
The thing with Miles is that he has had a number of serious injuries which have taken a long time to fully recover from. He has, at the same time been growing into his 6ft 5 inches plus frame. If he can stay fit he could still potentially justify such a valuation.Bostonaddick said:I do remember. It was right around the time that a number of people on here were also saying Miles transfer value was 10million. It just goes to show that fans (myself included) don’t know what we are talking about4 -
£10-20m i said. Stand by that although you could provably pick up a bargain right now that'd look like deal of the century come Christmas when he's scored 15 goals for you in the championship 😀0
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There were times this season when Miles looked like he was on the verge of a breakthrough, particularly when playing up top with Kelman around the turn of the year. I know I've said it's him or Mbick next season, and I still think that's the case, but I wouldn't be shocked if Miles won that battle. I think there's still a lot more to come from him. He has aerial ability, he's tidy with his feet, he presses and wins the ball back very well for a big man, he just needs to put it all together. I hope he works hard in the off season and in pre season to do just that. Couple that with a side that is less hoof and hope next year and I think there's a good Championship striker in there.
When I think of the player I would want as an upgrade on Dykes/for us to bring in, it is:
1) a mobile target man (Miles is mobile for his size)
2) who can play on the deck (tick)
3) can win balls in the air (tick)
4) can press well (tick)
5) can score goals (not yet, but he had a decent goals per minute ratio in League One two years ago)
Those kind of strikers are expensive and rare at this level. Generally, this offseason I hope we don't fall into the habit of relying on academy graduates to make the step up to improve this team. But I would have Miles down as the exception (he's also, what, 22?). I think there's a possibility that it's him and Mbick because both show something extra in preseason. I think those two, plus Kelman, TC, Godden, and Dykes is a decent forward line, and as has been remarked many times it will be about getting them service.
What I'm trying to say is don't write Miles off just yet, there's still a good Championship player in there. He just has to find it, and quite frankly, find it fast with Dykes (if he signs) and Mbick (if he recovers well) breathing down his neck.
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Keep Miles, still plenty of potential there. Improved his aerial and physical game alot. Just need some balls into his feet as well as in the air. Our job should be to improve the attack patterns and service quality from midfield to attack. Get that right without losing too much of our defensive structure and we should be in with a very good chance of top half next year.O and it is a joy to see an academy player, and another Leaburn playing for us. His last goal was a fantastic header. My bias is the fact I loved Carl as a player.10
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People saying we should offload him - have a word. He fits the exact kind of profile of the player we’d want to sign if we wanted a target man. Still a lot more to come from him and his confidence clearly grew as the season went on until he was dropped. Wins everything in the air and is a real physical handful. He’s still only 22.14
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Agree with most of what you say apart from he wins everything in the air.Diebythesword said:People saying we should offload him - have a word. He fits the exact kind of profile of the player we’d want to sign if we wanted a target man. Still a lot more to come from him and his confidence clearly grew as the season went on until he was dropped. Wins everything in the air and is a real physical handful. He’s still only 22.
Considering he's about 6'6 tall i think his heading ability needs improving.3 -
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According to the club he’s 6’7”.blackpool72 said:
Agree with most of what you say apart from he wins everything in the air.Diebythesword said:People saying we should offload him - have a word. He fits the exact kind of profile of the player we’d want to sign if we wanted a target man. Still a lot more to come from him and his confidence clearly grew as the season went on until he was dropped. Wins everything in the air and is a real physical handful. He’s still only 22.
Considering he's about 6'6 tall i think his heading ability needs improving.0 -
blackpool72 said:
Agree with most of what you say apart from he wins everything in the air.Diebythesword said:People saying we should offload him - have a word. He fits the exact kind of profile of the player we’d want to sign if we wanted a target man. Still a lot more to come from him and his confidence clearly grew as the season went on until he was dropped. Wins everything in the air and is a real physical handful. He’s still only 22.
Considering he's about 6'6 tall i think his heading ability needs improving.
He does win everything in the air but his heading ability also does need improving. Dykes for example is much better at directing his flick ons towards team mates than Leaburn is5 -
Oh for an extra inch.guinnessaddick said:
According to the club he’s 6’7”.blackpool72 said:
Agree with most of what you say apart from he wins everything in the air.Diebythesword said:People saying we should offload him - have a word. He fits the exact kind of profile of the player we’d want to sign if we wanted a target man. Still a lot more to come from him and his confidence clearly grew as the season went on until he was dropped. Wins everything in the air and is a real physical handful. He’s still only 22.
Considering he's about 6'6 tall i think his heading ability needs improving.5 -
Miles is still improving and would benefit from a full pre season. He needs an extended run in the team and I feel could form a successful partnership with Kellman. Personally I feel resigning Dykes could be detrimental to Leaburn0
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I’ve got a couple I could spare.blackpool72 said:
Oh for an extra inch.guinnessaddick said:
According to the club he’s 6’7”.blackpool72 said:
Agree with most of what you say apart from he wins everything in the air.Diebythesword said:People saying we should offload him - have a word. He fits the exact kind of profile of the player we’d want to sign if we wanted a target man. Still a lot more to come from him and his confidence clearly grew as the season went on until he was dropped. Wins everything in the air and is a real physical handful. He’s still only 22.
Considering he's about 6'6 tall i think his heading ability needs improving.3 -
blackpool72 said:
Agree with most of what you say apart from he wins everything in the air.Diebythesword said:People saying we should offload him - have a word. He fits the exact kind of profile of the player we’d want to sign if we wanted a target man. Still a lot more to come from him and his confidence clearly grew as the season went on until he was dropped. Wins everything in the air and is a real physical handful. He’s still only 22.
Considering he's about 6'6 tall i think his heading ability needs improving.
I think it's fair to say he wins more than his fair share - 3rd most won as a striker in the entire Championship.3 -
I always thought the big thing for Miles this year was to get through the season without another long-term injury, which he's done. Time to get a proper pre-season and see what he can do with the fitness to press with more intensity. I think he's already shown he can mix it with Championship CBs, so hopefully he can really push on next season.3
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Does win everything in the air but definitely has to work on the direction of those headers. I think if Jones was so confident in Miles he wouldn’t be resigning Dykes I think a loan is a likely outcome a lot of potential but at the same time he needs game time to improvethenewbie said:blackpool72 said:
Agree with most of what you say apart from he wins everything in the air.Diebythesword said:People saying we should offload him - have a word. He fits the exact kind of profile of the player we’d want to sign if we wanted a target man. Still a lot more to come from him and his confidence clearly grew as the season went on until he was dropped. Wins everything in the air and is a real physical handful. He’s still only 22.
Considering he's about 6'6 tall i think his heading ability needs improving.
I think it's fair to say he wins more than his fair share - 3rd most won as a striker in the entire Championship.0 -
Would personally prefer we kept Leaburn as the second option in the bigger striker role, would like to see us sign a tall striker who has pace to start with Kelman.1
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I think Jones is going to want to have a very good look at Miles over the pre season. Right now I don’t think Miles is going to be the answer for our attacking options. Progress certainly hampered by his injuries but I think we need to see a fully fit, whole pre season, motivated Miles Leaburn come the seasons start. Anything less and I think we’re leaving ourselves dangerously short. I know we’re looking to get Dykes back and probably AN Other in but this is a very big season coming for Miles and Charlton.0
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Let's not forget about League Two's young player of the season.SDAddick said:
Given that they're not planning to play him right away, I don't know that an injury would scare off all interest in Mbick. It might reduce the price, or change the payment structure, and maybe it means someone like Brighton will try to poach him on the cheap, but I doubt it scares them off entirely, especially if he doesn't require surgery and might be back in pre season. They'd be buying him for his potential, not for his ability right now, so in the grand scheme of things, a six month break isn't that huge for a player who wouldn't sniff their first team for at least another couple of years (if ever). For us, it's a different calculus.LargeAddick said:
Well a lot of this depends on how and when he recovers from his injury. If he’s not fit until September then a loan can be ruled out anyway. Similarly I can’t see a move to Brighton happening if he’s not fit.NabySarr said:
I think it’s very likely Mbick is in our squad next season. Otherwise I’m sure he’d have been pushing a lot more to move to Brighton, and may do so this summer if we don’t plan on using him in our squad. If we’re just going to loan him out to league 1, then he can do that from Brighton for probably 10x the money. I’d assume we’ve told Mbick he will be in our squad next season as otherwise he will want out and rightly soLargeAddick said:
Not aimed particularly at your comment but I think people are in danger of over hyping Mbick. He had a decent loan in League Two. League Two. We are in the Championship, it’s a massive leap. Kelman scored 20+ in League One last season and some fans think he hasn’t made the step up sufficiently. Now Nathan Jones is saying we won’t be shopping in League One this summer. And yet a young kid with 20 games in League Two might suddenly be the answer. In my opinion he’d be better served with another loan, League One if possible, and see how he handles that.MarcusH26 said:It feels like Miles has all the attributes NJ loves in a striker it's just can he stay fit and put it all together. Hopefully he develops in the summer otherwise I do wonder if he'll be jumped by Mbick.
I do think the Miles/Micah debate is one that will run into the summer and potentially beyond. I think Miles showed in flashes what he's capable of in the past few months. He was on a decent run of form when Dykes came in, and then was dropped in favor of a more experienced, more prototypical target man. As others have said, and as I've said before, I think Miles has technical and physical capabilities that Dykes could only dream of, but when you're a route one side playing direct football, Dykes is the one you want in a relegation scrap.
Next season needs to bring a reset. Everybody knows this. And with a better midfield and better service from wingbacks, it will be interesting to see what Leaburn and Mbick are capable of in the summer and potentially into the first few games of the season. I think Mbick is going to be mustard. I think Miles has the potential to be very good. I struggle to see us carrying both of them in one Championship season, so I expect one will be loaned out. A lot will obviously come down to how quickly/well Mbick recovers from his injury. So advantage Miles there. But I think Mbick has the higher ceiling, so advantage Micah in that regard. But Miles has more experience, and has now played and scored at League One and Championship level, so advantage Miles.
You see how this is going to go. I think it's going to be a close run thing. But we're in an enviable position in that we have two talented, young, homegrown, English center forwards--three attackers when you include TC. I don't think next season is the time to move either one on, I think both can impact a lot to grow their value next year, be it here or on loan.2 -
Have to get him tied to a contract first before we can debate what role he plays this yearCaptainRobbo said:
Let's not forget about League Two's young player of the season.SDAddick said:
Given that they're not planning to play him right away, I don't know that an injury would scare off all interest in Mbick. It might reduce the price, or change the payment structure, and maybe it means someone like Brighton will try to poach him on the cheap, but I doubt it scares them off entirely, especially if he doesn't require surgery and might be back in pre season. They'd be buying him for his potential, not for his ability right now, so in the grand scheme of things, a six month break isn't that huge for a player who wouldn't sniff their first team for at least another couple of years (if ever). For us, it's a different calculus.LargeAddick said:
Well a lot of this depends on how and when he recovers from his injury. If he’s not fit until September then a loan can be ruled out anyway. Similarly I can’t see a move to Brighton happening if he’s not fit.NabySarr said:
I think it’s very likely Mbick is in our squad next season. Otherwise I’m sure he’d have been pushing a lot more to move to Brighton, and may do so this summer if we don’t plan on using him in our squad. If we’re just going to loan him out to league 1, then he can do that from Brighton for probably 10x the money. I’d assume we’ve told Mbick he will be in our squad next season as otherwise he will want out and rightly soLargeAddick said:
Not aimed particularly at your comment but I think people are in danger of over hyping Mbick. He had a decent loan in League Two. League Two. We are in the Championship, it’s a massive leap. Kelman scored 20+ in League One last season and some fans think he hasn’t made the step up sufficiently. Now Nathan Jones is saying we won’t be shopping in League One this summer. And yet a young kid with 20 games in League Two might suddenly be the answer. In my opinion he’d be better served with another loan, League One if possible, and see how he handles that.MarcusH26 said:It feels like Miles has all the attributes NJ loves in a striker it's just can he stay fit and put it all together. Hopefully he develops in the summer otherwise I do wonder if he'll be jumped by Mbick.
I do think the Miles/Micah debate is one that will run into the summer and potentially beyond. I think Miles showed in flashes what he's capable of in the past few months. He was on a decent run of form when Dykes came in, and then was dropped in favor of a more experienced, more prototypical target man. As others have said, and as I've said before, I think Miles has technical and physical capabilities that Dykes could only dream of, but when you're a route one side playing direct football, Dykes is the one you want in a relegation scrap.
Next season needs to bring a reset. Everybody knows this. And with a better midfield and better service from wingbacks, it will be interesting to see what Leaburn and Mbick are capable of in the summer and potentially into the first few games of the season. I think Mbick is going to be mustard. I think Miles has the potential to be very good. I struggle to see us carrying both of them in one Championship season, so I expect one will be loaned out. A lot will obviously come down to how quickly/well Mbick recovers from his injury. So advantage Miles there. But I think Mbick has the higher ceiling, so advantage Micah in that regard. But Miles has more experience, and has now played and scored at League One and Championship level, so advantage Miles.
You see how this is going to go. I think it's going to be a close run thing. But we're in an enviable position in that we have two talented, young, homegrown, English center forwards--three attackers when you include TC. I don't think next season is the time to move either one on, I think both can impact a lot to grow their value next year, be it here or on loan.0 -
Not a dig at you but we need 2 of that kind of striker, so room for both to cover injury/ suspension etc.Crispywood said:
Does win everything in the air but definitely has to work on the direction of those headers. I think if Jones was so confident in Miles he wouldn’t be resigning Dykes I think a loan is a likely outcome a lot of potential but at the same time he needs game time to improvethenewbie said:blackpool72 said:
Agree with most of what you say apart from he wins everything in the air.Diebythesword said:People saying we should offload him - have a word. He fits the exact kind of profile of the player we’d want to sign if we wanted a target man. Still a lot more to come from him and his confidence clearly grew as the season went on until he was dropped. Wins everything in the air and is a real physical handful. He’s still only 22.
Considering he's about 6'6 tall i think his heading ability needs improving.
I think it's fair to say he wins more than his fair share - 3rd most won as a striker in the entire Championship.0 -
Personally think that’s going to be Mbick and Dykes also could see us bringing in another forward as well to facilitate a Leaburn movecblock said:
Not a dig at you but we need 2 of that kind of striker, so room for both to cover injury/ suspension etc.Crispywood said:
Does win everything in the air but definitely has to work on the direction of those headers. I think if Jones was so confident in Miles he wouldn’t be resigning Dykes I think a loan is a likely outcome a lot of potential but at the same time he needs game time to improvethenewbie said:blackpool72 said:
Agree with most of what you say apart from he wins everything in the air.Diebythesword said:People saying we should offload him - have a word. He fits the exact kind of profile of the player we’d want to sign if we wanted a target man. Still a lot more to come from him and his confidence clearly grew as the season went on until he was dropped. Wins everything in the air and is a real physical handful. He’s still only 22.
Considering he's about 6'6 tall i think his heading ability needs improving.
I think it's fair to say he wins more than his fair share - 3rd most won as a striker in the entire Championship.0 -
No, that is actually Miles LeaburnAddictedoldgit said:2 -
This pre season is huge for him, if he can become a bit of a c*nt and really start to impose himself and dominate centre halves is all down to him. He has the physicality and has a really good technique, players with less ability than him but more of a dog attitude have gone further in the game. His footballing ability is what it is, just don't want him to become a Ramprakash of a footballer. I don't give him a hard time as he has had two nasty injuries that I forgive him holding himself back mentally but this summer is now or never to show he is the massive bastard of a centre forward I think he can be or someone who gets 15 every season for Gillingham
Mbick, tough one, that injury came at the worst time for him, good time for us as I think he would have been off to Brighton and loaned out otherwise. He has everything physically just needs to apply himself like he clearly did at Colchester
I've rarely wanted a player to do it more than Miles, good news is he has the raw material, now all up to him11 -
I think if we could get decent money for Leaburn`s contract we should let him go. He should want to go as I think he might find it easier to show his ability else where , I do not think he is suited to the N Jones type of team.3
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Think people forgot he is only 22 because of how early he broke into our team. Would get him signed up on a longer deal and loan him to a top end league one club, with a recall clause, there will be plenty of takers0
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He’s perfectly suited to a Jones team. If you asked Jones to design the profile of his ideal striker Leaburn would be pretty close to the result. He loves a big striker that’s also got a decent amount of mobility, it’s why he will want to keep Mbick toomsomerton said:I think if we could get decent money for Leaburn`s contract we should let him go. He should want to go as I think he might find it easier to show his ability else where , I do not think he is suited to the N Jones type of team.
Leaburn obviously still isn’t there yet but he’s very young for the type of striker he is, and if he can get it to click into place he will be very good for us in the championship5 -
He’s also in the process of developing into a good target man striker. Those types typically peak later than other strikers. Probably peaking around 28-32 so Leaburn has years and years to develop until his primeCAFCsayer said:Think people forgot he is only 22 because of how early he broke into our team. Would get him signed up on a longer deal and loan him to a top end league one club, with a recall clause, there will be plenty of takers7
