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Olympic Stadium; our day in court

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  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 22,166
    Some people just can’t help themselves. 
    It’s pathetic mate 
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 2,179
    I think it is wrong to accuse Coe. He wanted the stadium to be the national athletics stadium.
    Why let facts get in the way of a good old political rant?
    Yes but those willing to absolve the guilty are just as bad. Facts in this case shouldn't be viewed as political. The main culprit is not in parliament.
    Off with their head's then 🪓 
    Only if corruption annoys you. If you are happy with it fine. 
    Obviously the deal that WHU ended up with stinks to high heaven.
    No doubt some brown envelopes were exchanged somewhere down the line.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 48,251
    I think it is wrong to accuse Coe. He wanted the stadium to be the national athletics stadium.
    Why let facts get in the way of a good old political rant?
    Yes but those willing to absolve the guilty are just as bad. Facts in this case shouldn't be viewed as political. The main culprit is not in parliament.
    Off with their head's then 🪓 
    Only if corruption annoys you. If you are happy with it fine. 
    Obviously the deal that WHU ended up with stinks to high heaven.
    No doubt some brown envelopes were exchanged somewhere down the line.
    Yes, the political element is irrelevent, only that those indulging it it need to have power. That is why I corrected an accusation against Coe who is a Conservative. You have corrupt people in power of all colours but we should be able to call it out when we see it.
  • redman
    redman Posts: 5,420
    ross1 said:
    According to the Mayor of London, London taxpayers will have to pay £2.5m if West Ham relegated
    I don't understand this comment by SK. Are West Ham currently paying £5m pa rent at the moment or am I missing something else. 
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,305
    redman said:
    ross1 said:
    According to the Mayor of London, London taxpayers will have to pay £2.5m if West Ham relegated
    I don't understand this comment by SK. Are West Ham currently paying £5m pa rent at the moment or am I missing something else. 
    Less, I'm pretty sure, but @PragueAddick will know for sure.
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,548
    redman said:
    ross1 said:
    According to the Mayor of London, London taxpayers will have to pay £2.5m if West Ham relegated
    I don't understand this comment by SK. Are West Ham currently paying £5m pa rent at the moment or am I missing something else. 
    Less, I'm pretty sure, but @PragueAddick will know for sure.
    Actually it is pretty close. Stu will be thinking of the starting level rent which was just £2m'ish, but gradually after a lot of pressure it has been squeezed up to £4.6m p.a. Credit for that goes to Lyn Garner who succeeded David Goldstone,  who was CEO of the LLDC at the time the original deal was done. She was appointed by Sadiq Khan and by that time the Moore Stephens inquiry which laid bare the fiasco of the deal had been published. Goldstone was a weasel who tried to discredit both the BBC documentary, and Steve Clarke and I by suggesting we had "secretly" submitted a different FOI request which demanded sight of the stadium plans. I mean, the whole point of FOI is to make things un-secret, and why would we need the stadium plans? Dan Roan at the BBC, himself put under pressure by Goldstone, tipped me off about that and I have fondly preserved the written apology I wrung from Goldstone. 

    Lyn Garner had the business brain and the cojones to face down Brady and make them pay more. That was no easy task because the LLDC had very little leverage. Trouble is it still did not and does not cover the annual expenses incurred by West Ham's tenancy, still less ongoing maintenance and renovation costs. One of the clauses which was retained was the relegation clause which stipulates a 50% reduction in rent. That more or less covers SK's £2.5m assertion, and is the main reason for it.

    The Athletic has a more than decent summary of the situation here, which hopefully is not paywalled. (though I am certain that the refit cost is £323m and not £272m as they say, I know where the difference comes from but would need time to dig it out) Another thing I didn't know about, mentioned elsewhere, is that they are trying to persuade West Ham to co -operate so that London can hold the 2029 World Athletics Championship, which take place in September that year. The unintentional LOL headline of the article is "West Ham urged to show ‘heart and soul’ over London 2029 World Athletics bid". That's how much leverage we have. Well Brady's gone, but you can take it from me Daniel Kretinsky is not well known in Prague for his "heart and soul" either🤣
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 11,395
    edited May 22


    They seem to do well on the business rates side as well 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 48,251
    Leicester could do with their expenses going down 50% now they have been relegated to League One. I fail to see how West Hams relegation, if it is them and not Spurs, is the fault of tax payers.
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 30,451
    West Ham will make an announcement next Tuesday on season ticket renewals. West Ham Interim CEO Karim Virani and Ticketing Director Nicola Key told the FAB that season ticket prices will be frozen if West Ham make the great escape and retain Premier League status on Sunday.  

    A final decision on Championship season ticket pricing will be made next week whether that be a freeze or make a slight reduction.  The Championship has 23 home games, four more than the Premier League so price per game would reduce by 17.38% even if prices are only frozen from last season.


  • 23 hours old apparently, this just popped up on my instagram feed

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  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 27,943
    edited June 17
    Do they have permission to do anything like that?
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,651
    Are they going to pay for it?
  • Cafc451
    Cafc451 Posts: 32
    They rent like we do but 30,000 season ticket money.
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,548


    23 hours old apparently, this just popped up on my instagram feed
    No way. If it were possible, GullivanBrady would have done it years ago. How are they going to hold any athletics there? This is why the whole thing is such a mess, Coe got his way,  that athletics would always have primacy there. Getting seats closer to the pitch doesnt help, even if they remove the running track, the rake is still too shallow, thats what the fans dont like. 

    Kretinsky isnt really an oligarch but he still suffers from “ I can do anything cos I’m so fucking rich” syndrome. He blew loads of money making Slavia the clear no1 Czech club. Which was quite a result given that he actually owns Sparta🤣
  • Grovenuts
    Grovenuts Posts: 114
    I thought it was still primarily an athletics stadium and Seb Coe said it couldn't be altered! West ham taking the piss again as ever, unfair advantage to everyone else in the championship...twats
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 2,179
    Grovenuts said:
    I thought it was still primarily an athletics stadium and Seb Coe said it couldn't be altered! West ham taking the piss again as ever, unfair advantage to everyone else in the championship...twats
    When the Spanners play there, they can help to start the refurbishment by ripping out a few hundred seats for them.


  • 23 hours old apparently, this just popped up on my instagram feed
    No way. If it were possible, GullivanBrady would have done it years ago. How are they going to hold any athletics there? This is why the whole thing is such a mess, Coe got his way,  that athletics would always have primacy there. Getting seats closer to the pitch doesnt help, even if they remove the running track, the rake is still too shallow, thats what the fans dont like. 

    Kretinsky isnt really an oligarch but he still suffers from “ I can do anything cos I’m so fucking rich” syndrome. He blew loads of money making Slavia the clear no1 Czech club. Which was quite a result given that he actually owns Sparta🤣
    If he’s rich enough, I’m sure we would sell it to him.

    if there is a running track around the pitch then  they probably could make the pitch level lower to accommodate the pitch side seating
  • Grovenuts said:
    I thought it was still primarily an athletics stadium and Seb Coe said it couldn't be altered! West ham taking the piss again as ever, unfair advantage to everyone else in the championship...twats
    As I understand it, Seb Coe isn't paying the bills, we all are. 
  • Afternoon Delight
    Afternoon Delight Posts: 1,062


    23 hours old apparently, this just popped up on my instagram feed
    It's a disgrace if that is allowed to happen.


  • 23 hours old apparently, this just popped up on my instagram feed
    It's a disgrace if that is allowed to happen.



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  • Cafc451
    Cafc451 Posts: 32
    How can the owner put £90m in?.
  • Cafc451
    Cafc451 Posts: 32
    Premier league rules over money for them until end of june.