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There is currently one British male in the top.100 and eight in the top 200. There are 5 British females in the top 200.PrincessFiona said:
Stojsavljevis is only 17 and beat Talia Gibson on her Billie Jean King Cup debut in Melbourne and she overturned a difference of 219 places in the WTA rankings, so I'd maybe give her the benefit of a little longer. She won the US girls in 2024. Klugman is also only 17, so likewise. I'd have to look up how old Pennington Jones is. I haven't checked the rankings recently but GB had 4 women in the top 100 and have made the BJK finals in successive years.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
There are very few British players breaking into the top 100...PrincessFiona said:
Unrealistic expectations.thickandthin63 said:
Also why is it wrong to have high expectations,we have had one mens Wimbledon winner since the 1930s,The ladies have done better,but still no one other than Emma has won a slam for a long long time.The problem now is where are the young players coming through.thickandthin63 said:
Where have I said they where rubbish I have described Draper as a wonderful talent and the ladies as good honest players.PrincessFiona said:
Go further than what, top 30? She's clearly not top 10 but top 30 is hardly rubbishthickandthin63 said:
Harsh maybe,but I do not think Radacanu has the incentive to go any further in her tennis career,she is a grand slam champion,she can live a very comfortable life without the grind of hours on the court,which most other players have to endure.Draper is a wonderful talent and I thought he would be a natural replacement for Andy,but it is not happening.I just think that every sportsman sportswoman has their physical limits and just cannot go any further.I recall Draper playing Sinner and vomiting a few times on the court,that is not right.If Draper gets fit he can win competitions,but in my opinion,5 set victories against the best players will be out of his physical reach.Boulter and Kartel are good honest players,but never in a million years will they challenge for grand slam titles.PrincessFiona said:
Of course it is disappointing but I still think the comments were too harshhoof_it_up_to_benty said:
British tennis is very disappointing at present. One male player in the top 100 and four women. I can't see many of our younger players making the step up at present.PrincessFiona said:
Way too harshthickandthin63 said:I just do not understand why we cannot produce any tennis players that can compete for top titles.Murray was the last and looking onwards there is nobody any where near looking like taking up his mantle.Draper is always injured,Norrie now 30 years old,thats it for men,Radacanu is a lost cause,she is always injured,ill,changing coaches etc.etc.,and why should she bother when she is getting a fortune for looking good in her sponsors outfits.Boulter rarely anywhere,Kartel the same.,all very depressing.Wimbledon soon and I doubt there will be any GB interest after the middle of the 1 st week.
Raducanu has made an absolute fortune on the basis of one title - all seems pretty ridiculous. Fame seems more based on her celebrity than tennis ability.
How did Drapr get to no.4 if 'always injured' and Raducanu top 30 before her 2 months out? Most players never win a single grand slam in ther whole career - she's clearly got significant challneges but to get into the top 30 with them is no mean feat. Hopefully bein gback with a permanent coach will bring some stability
Draper has had several injuries in the last 12 months, but Norrie is back in the top 20
Kartal was on the up before her injury set back and Boulter had made good progress after a bad year
No it isn't great but put it into realistic perspective, manage your expectations and use nuances!!!!
They don't need to be challenging for GS titles to be very good though. Plenty of very, very good players haven't even won a GS. Draper got to the USO semi didn't he? Plenty of players who aren't challenging Sinner and Alcaraz - doesn't make them rubbish though
Plenty of teams aren't going to win the Premier League but that doesn't mean they are runbbish and should give up. Do you think the supprters of thise teams should go support one of the top 6 instead?
Your expectations are too high
Off the top of my head, Mika Stojsavljevic, Hanna Klugman and Jack Pinnington Jone are 'young players coming through'
Why do you have high expectations? On what basis? What are your expectations of Charlton, that they are going to win the Championship next season?
A GB palyer winning a GS currently is about as likely as Charlton winning the Premier League, although a fit Jack Draper probaably less unlikely - I realise that and manage my expectations accordingly. But it won't stop me supporting any of them.
I'd expect British players to be doing better than this given the funding available to the sport. I suppose if you have low expectations you won't be disappointed.
We have a number of players on the Challenger tour who need to prove themselves on the main tour.
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Boulter out in three sets to Potapova at the French Open.
Not a great tournament for the British.0 -
There were 4 British women in the top 100. Only 3 now with Dart at 109. Jack Draper has only dropped due to injury not abilityhoof_it_up_to_benty said:
There is currently one British male in the top.100 and eight in the top 200. There are 5 British females in the top 200.PrincessFiona said:
Stojsavljevis is only 17 and beat Talia Gibson on her Billie Jean King Cup debut in Melbourne and she overturned a difference of 219 places in the WTA rankings, so I'd maybe give her the benefit of a little longer. She won the US girls in 2024. Klugman is also only 17, so likewise. I'd have to look up how old Pennington Jones is. I haven't checked the rankings recently but GB had 4 women in the top 100 and have made the BJK finals in successive years.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
There are very few British players breaking into the top 100...PrincessFiona said:
Unrealistic expectations.thickandthin63 said:
Also why is it wrong to have high expectations,we have had one mens Wimbledon winner since the 1930s,The ladies have done better,but still no one other than Emma has won a slam for a long long time.The problem now is where are the young players coming through.thickandthin63 said:
Where have I said they where rubbish I have described Draper as a wonderful talent and the ladies as good honest players.PrincessFiona said:
Go further than what, top 30? She's clearly not top 10 but top 30 is hardly rubbishthickandthin63 said:
Harsh maybe,but I do not think Radacanu has the incentive to go any further in her tennis career,she is a grand slam champion,she can live a very comfortable life without the grind of hours on the court,which most other players have to endure.Draper is a wonderful talent and I thought he would be a natural replacement for Andy,but it is not happening.I just think that every sportsman sportswoman has their physical limits and just cannot go any further.I recall Draper playing Sinner and vomiting a few times on the court,that is not right.If Draper gets fit he can win competitions,but in my opinion,5 set victories against the best players will be out of his physical reach.Boulter and Kartel are good honest players,but never in a million years will they challenge for grand slam titles.PrincessFiona said:
Of course it is disappointing but I still think the comments were too harshhoof_it_up_to_benty said:
British tennis is very disappointing at present. One male player in the top 100 and four women. I can't see many of our younger players making the step up at present.PrincessFiona said:
Way too harshthickandthin63 said:I just do not understand why we cannot produce any tennis players that can compete for top titles.Murray was the last and looking onwards there is nobody any where near looking like taking up his mantle.Draper is always injured,Norrie now 30 years old,thats it for men,Radacanu is a lost cause,she is always injured,ill,changing coaches etc.etc.,and why should she bother when she is getting a fortune for looking good in her sponsors outfits.Boulter rarely anywhere,Kartel the same.,all very depressing.Wimbledon soon and I doubt there will be any GB interest after the middle of the 1 st week.
Raducanu has made an absolute fortune on the basis of one title - all seems pretty ridiculous. Fame seems more based on her celebrity than tennis ability.
How did Drapr get to no.4 if 'always injured' and Raducanu top 30 before her 2 months out? Most players never win a single grand slam in ther whole career - she's clearly got significant challneges but to get into the top 30 with them is no mean feat. Hopefully bein gback with a permanent coach will bring some stability
Draper has had several injuries in the last 12 months, but Norrie is back in the top 20
Kartal was on the up before her injury set back and Boulter had made good progress after a bad year
No it isn't great but put it into realistic perspective, manage your expectations and use nuances!!!!
They don't need to be challenging for GS titles to be very good though. Plenty of very, very good players haven't even won a GS. Draper got to the USO semi didn't he? Plenty of players who aren't challenging Sinner and Alcaraz - doesn't make them rubbish though
Plenty of teams aren't going to win the Premier League but that doesn't mean they are runbbish and should give up. Do you think the supprters of thise teams should go support one of the top 6 instead?
Your expectations are too high
Off the top of my head, Mika Stojsavljevic, Hanna Klugman and Jack Pinnington Jone are 'young players coming through'
Why do you have high expectations? On what basis? What are your expectations of Charlton, that they are going to win the Championship next season?
A GB palyer winning a GS currently is about as likely as Charlton winning the Premier League, although a fit Jack Draper probaably less unlikely - I realise that and manage my expectations accordingly. But it won't stop me supporting any of them.
I'd expect British players to be doing better than this given the funding available to the sport. I suppose if you have low expectations you won't be disappointed.
We have a number of players on the Challenger tour who need to prove themselves on the main tour.
Best to have realistic ones. Same as with Charlton
Edit - Jack Draper hasn't dropped out yet - ranked 75 though injury and not defending/gaining any points
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Clay is the least favourite surface for most British players hence poor performances at Roland Garros.1
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AddicksAddict said:
Last time I saw that was someone losing to Jimmy Connors.Callumcafc said:Sinner lost in five from a 6-3 6-2 5-1 position. Pretty remarkable.
Connors vs Pernfors. I remember watching it.
https://youtu.be/Z6-i9OByurQ?is=wQ54hy5MQEBtNipq 1 -
Not normally this bad. The men didn't manage to win a single set between them.LenGlover said:Clay is the least favourite surface for most British players hence poor performances at Roland Garros.
Murray and Konta both did well at the French Open. Murray was a finalist and Konta reached the SF.
Let's hope for some better results in the grass court season.1 -
Think some of the British players need to get measured up for a new bat.1
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EugenesAxe said:Think some of the British players need to get measured up for a new bat.
https://youtu.be/FR1_u-DaM4E?si=RwrVroUk1NA1Rn3y 1 -
It's a racquet.0
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Wonder where Hot Rod is in the current top 100?EugenesAxe said:It's a racquet.1 -
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Yes, Penfors, couldn't remember his name. I didn't think Penfors crumbled, rather Connors' comeback was an amazing force of will.SantaClaus said:AddicksAddict said:
Last time I saw that was someone losing to Jimmy Connors.Callumcafc said:Sinner lost in five from a 6-3 6-2 5-1 position. Pretty remarkable.
Connors vs Pernfors. I remember watching it.https://youtu.be/Z6-i9OByurQ?is=wQ54hy5MQEBtNipq0 -
This Djokovic match is something else1
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10 of the top 14 seeds out in the first 3 rounds in the men's draw... and 3 of the other 4 still have to play their third round matches - only Rublev of that lot through to the fourth round so far.
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Pretty crazy men’s grand slam by usual standards. Would’ve been a cake walk for Alcaraz at this point had he been healthy.
There is only one seed left in the top quarter of the draw (Tiafoe [19]).1 -
First time in the history of the “Open era” that there is not a former slam champion anywhere in the last 16 of a men’s draw.3
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You have got your wish,great performance from the Brazilian lad,really think Novak should call it a day otherwise he will soon be losing to players who wouldnt have got near him at his best.North Lower Neil said:
Really hope with Alcaraz absent and now Sinner out, it's someone different rather than just back to Djokovic.thickandthin63 said:Looks like Novak has a great chance f getting the grand slam record all to himself.2 -
Men’s last 16:
Cerundolo v Berrettini
[19] Tiafoe v Arnaldi
[4] Auger-Aliassime v Tabilo
[10] Cobolli v Svajda
[26] Mensik v [11] Rublev
[15] Ruud v [28] Fonseca
[27] Jodar v Carreno Busta
[LL] de Jong v [2] Zverev
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Callumcafc said:Men’s last 16:
Cerundolo v Berrettini
[19] Tiafoe v Arnaldi
[4] Auger-Aliassime v Tabilo
[10] Cobolli v Svajda
[26] Mensik v [11] Rublev
[15] Ruud v [28] Fonseca
[27] Jodar v Carreno Busta
[LL] de Jong v [2] Zverev
Now or never for Zverev surely. Fair play to anyonewho picks the winner from that lot though.
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Grass court season starts at Nottingham this week. Challenger Event for men and WTA250 event for women - plenty of British players in action1
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hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Grass court season starts at Nottingham this week. Challenger Event for men and WTA250 event for women - plenty of British players in action
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Not keen on the bloke with the allegations that have been made against him. So hopefully against all odds De Jong can beat him.Kips said:Callumcafc said:Men’s last 16:
Cerundolo v Berrettini
[19] Tiafoe v Arnaldi
[4] Auger-Aliassime v Tabilo
[10] Cobolli v Svajda
[26] Mensik v [11] Rublev
[15] Ruud v [28] Fonseca
[27] Jodar v Carreno Busta
[LL] de Jong v [2] Zverev
Now or never for Zverev surely. Fair play to anyonewho picks the winner from that lot though.2 -
QFCallumcafc said:Men’s last 16:
Cerundolo v Berrettini
[19] Tiafoe v Arnaldi
[4] Auger-Aliassime v Tabilo
[10] Cobolli v Svajda
[26] Mensik v [11] Rublev
[15] Ruud v [28] Fonseca
[27] Jodar v Carreno Busta
[LL] de Jong v [2] Zverev
Berrettini v Arnaldi
[4] Auger-Aliassime v [10] Cobolli
[26] Mensik v [28] Fonseca
[27] Jodar v [2] Zverev1 -
It’s mad that of the last 16, there are only 5 players whose names I recognise1
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Just watched it but cannot believe it. Sabalenka a set and 4-1 up with a double break, proceeded to lose 12 of the next 13 games to Shnaider
A real unbelievable Jeff moment. Sabalenka got obsessed with and disrupted by the strong wind.0 -
Definitely an unbelievable moment for me reading your post - I stopped checking on the score when she was 4 -1 up in the second! How did she take losing?bolloxbolder said:Just watched it but cannot believe it. Sabalenka a set and 4-1 up with a double break, proceeded to lose 12 of the next 13 games to Shnaider
A real unbelievable Jeff moment. Sabalenka got obsessed with and disrupted by the strong wind.
How many left in either singles draw who have won a GS?0 -
Even in the later part of the first set, she was turning around to her team moaning about the wind. Chris Evert was amazed as well and kept saying has she never practised in windy conditions before? Just make the court shorter.
Lots of shouting and gesticulating the longer it went on. Threw away a ball received from a ball boy.1 -
Apparently she had a meltdown and said she wanted to quit tennis!bolloxbolder said:Even in the later part of the first set, she was turning around to her team moaning about the wind. Chris Evert was amazed as well and kept saying has she never practised in windy conditions before? Just make the court shorter.
Lots of shouting and gesticulating the longer it went on. Threw away a ball received from a ball boy.1 -
I've had a chance to check what I thought - no previous GS winners left in either drawPrincessFiona said:
Definitely an unbelievable moment for me reading your post - I stopped checking on the score when she was 4 -1 up in the second! How did she take losing?bolloxbolder said:Just watched it but cannot believe it. Sabalenka a set and 4-1 up with a double break, proceeded to lose 12 of the next 13 games to Shnaider
A real unbelievable Jeff moment. Sabalenka got obsessed with and disrupted by the strong wind.
How many left in either singles draw who have won a GS?1 -
Imagine prime 2016 Murray was ten years younger. Bloke would be nailed on for a French Open win this year.
Even 2025 Draper would’ve had a good chance this year0
