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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 22,365
    Sending Apter out would be mental. Leaves us in the exact same position we are in now with only one rw 
    Apter part of the squad this season said NJ and we are looking to add RW to challenge Apter … 
    What Jones says publicly and what the plan is privately are sometimes two different things. 

    Plan all summer has been to sell or loan out the 7 who went on loan last season minus Mbick. And WHEN JRS joins, Apter will fall further down the peaking order 

    Problem is you have to play TC off the left JRS off the right (if he signs) but also think Grant you have to find room to fit in so may be converted into Carey’s role which could allow Apter to be cover on the wing instead and Grant being a 10 option could force an additional of JRC or Knibbs out 

    Grant in the 10 scares me, don’t think he’ll drop back as deep as Carey or Knibbs do. But it does tally with the idea of Fullah going on loan 
  • up_the_valley
    up_the_valley Posts: 4,708
    edited August 20
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  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 24,646
    Okonkwo, Mannion, Brookes
    Ramsay, Mcnamara
    Jones, Sichenje
    Koumetio, Bell
    Mesík, Edwards
    Coventry, Docherty
    Ouma, Chalobah
    Carey, Knibbs
    Rak-Sakyi, Apter
    Grant, Campbell, Alli
    Leaburn, Godden, Kelman

    Rankin-Costello, Burke, Kanu, Asiimwe, Kaminski out.

    Could easily swap Docherty or Apter in for JRC or Burke, or even both. 

    Mwamba and Mbick to make the other 2 slots in the fabled 9-9-9 (that used to be 8-8-8)
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 18,909
    edited August 21
    Chunes said:
    Does anyone remember the times where a relatively significant amount of lifers were saying we should send JRS back during the January transfer window when he was experiencing a dip in form?
    Yes... For 70% of his time here, so many people were saying he had no end product and was brainless. And that was while he was 2nd top scoring winger in the league. It was infuriating at the time so I suppose we should be happy now. 
    He was definitely a slow starter. By the end of his time here he was great.
    I think he got two goals and two assists in his first four games.
  • wolfgang
    wolfgang Posts: 1,231
    Sending Apter out would be mental. Leaves us in the exact same position we are in now with only one rw 
    Apter part of the squad this season said NJ and we are looking to add RW to challenge Apter … 
    What Jones says publicly and what the plan is privately are sometimes two different things. 

    Plan all summer has been to sell or loan out the 7 who went on loan last season minus Mbick. And WHEN JRS joins, Apter will fall further down the peaking order 

    Problem is you have to play TC off the left JRS off the right (if he signs) but also think Grant you have to find room to fit in so may be converted into Carey’s role which could allow Apter to be cover on the wing instead and Grant being a 10 option could force an additional of JRC or Knibbs out 

    Why is that a problem? Sounds like what we have been working towards. Goalkeeper sorted, defence was never the problem, but strengthened anyway, attack sorted: just the midfield to be strengthened now, but we cannot expect to do everything in one window.
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,933
    edited August 21
    chev said:
    Reams now saying fee going be less then 5million but more add on for palace if we get promoted in next 2-3years and few others adds ons
    While we may be close in signing JRS, I can’t see how someone knows the breakdown of the deal. Sure you might know he will sign or has signed, but I’d imagine only a few people currently know the extra contract details. 
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 18,032
    edited August 21
    If JRS is, actually, done, and on a permanent, to boot, then I don’t see how anyone can see it as anything other than an exciting signing. It is, probably, partly a function of his stock falling a little bit but it’s also a sign of where we have advanced to. He’s not the finished article, he will blow hot and cold, he’s probably not as good as some fans have blown him up to be in their mind, but if you told me 6 months ago that I might get to watch, this season, a rejuvenated TC, Karlan Grant, and Rak-Sakyi (on a permanent!) running at defences, I wouldn’t have believed you. 

    I reckon they could be frustrating as hell some weeks but if they all click in the same game that could be very exciting to watch. 

    If any one (or maybe more) of Leaburn, Kelman, Godden, or Mbick can consistently deliver what we know they have shown capability of in flashes, then we could be a far cry from the stodgy and dreary attacking play of the last year or two. 

  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 39,493
    If JRS is, actually, done, and on a permanent, to boot, then I don’t see how anyone can see it as anything other than an exciting signing. It is, probably, partly a function of his stock falling a little bit but it’s also a sign of where we have advanced to. He’s not the finished article, he will blow hot and cold, he’s probably not as good as some fans have blown him up to be in their mind, but if you told me 6 months ago that I might get to watch, this season, a rejuvenated TC, Karlan Grant, and Rak-Sakyi (on a permanent!) running at defences, I wouldn’t have believed you. 

    I reckon they could be frustrating as hell some weeks but if they all click in the same game that could be very exciting to watch. 

    If any one (or maybe more) of Leaburn, Kelman, Godden, or Mbick can consistently deliver what we know they have shown capability of in flashes, then we could be a far cry from the stodgy and dreary attacking play of the last year or two. 



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  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 24,391
    Any more news of any outgoings?
    Preston are interested in Blackfen Len 

    Foxycafc has gone to Newcastle on a 3 year loan.
  • RedRobin
    RedRobin Posts: 1,480
    Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    Does anyone remember the times where a relatively significant amount of lifers were saying we should send JRS back during the January transfer window when he was experiencing a dip in form?
    Yes... For 70% of his time here, so many people were saying he had no end product and was brainless. And that was while he was 2nd top scoring winger in the league. It was infuriating at the time so I suppose we should be happy now. 
    He was definitely a slow starter. By the end of his time here he was great.
    I think he got two goals and two assists in his first four games.
    Scored on his debut! 
  • RedRobin
    RedRobin Posts: 1,480
    edited August 21
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  • fenaddick said:
    Redrobo said:
    From Palace forum

    Charlton fans think they will get JRS back however I doubt they could afford the fee so loan would be their only option. I doubt that will happen unless we can't sell him. I suspect the same with Esse.

    It's that time of the window where selling clubs have to decide whether to drop their price, ship out on loan or just stick with him in the hope that they will improve.
     I showed this post to a mate of mine who is a season ticket holder at Palace. His response was as follows :

    “Can Charlton afford £5m with add-ons? Esse would be £10m with add-ons“

    I can’t see us spending £5m on any player so if he does join us I suspect it’s another loan deal.
    £5m would keep us below the rumoured budget of c£10m based on the best guesses of fees paid wouldn’t it?

    Mesik £500K
    Big Billy £500K
    Alli £1M

    Grant, Mcnammara, Chalobah free agents

    Okonkwo and Ouma on loan.

    So £2M spent so far plus loan and signing on fees.

    Some recouped by Anderson, Gilly, Mitchell, and Ezenwata with more to come from Kanu, Assimwe and maybe Doc and Kaminski.

    Soz Yes I would think £5M comes in under last summer... Maybe even leaves a couple of mil for someone else.
    Wages will be significantly higher than before. Grant will be earning a lot more than Apter, Chalobah more than Anderson etc. That all eats into your budget

    Mesik for Clarke, Billy for Gilly, Ouma for Coady, Okonkwo for Kaminski, Alli for Dykes.  Wages may be a touch higher because of Jones and Campbell new contracts and Grant/JRS would be on more but I don't see those bought in as being on substantially more than last seasons squad from Jan onwards. 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 6,497
    Sending Apter out would be mental. Leaves us in the exact same position we are in now with only one rw 
    Apter part of the squad this season said NJ and we are looking to add RW to challenge Apter … 
    What Jones says publicly and what the plan is privately are sometimes two different things. 

    Plan all summer has been to sell or loan out the 7 who went on loan last season minus Mbick. And WHEN JRS joins, Apter will fall further down the peaking order 

    Problem is you have to play TC off the left JRS off the right (if he signs) but also think Grant you have to find room to fit in so may be converted into Carey’s role which could allow Apter to be cover on the wing instead and Grant being a 10 option could force an additional of JRC or Knibbs out 

    I really don’t think Grant is a 10. He went there on Saturday while we were chasing the game but I don’t think he really suits there. More likely he ends up playing as a striker I think, or he will just share the minutes with TC on the left which is a scary prospect for championship right backs 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 24,391
    edited August 21
    We won't have too many forwards IF Rak-Sakyi signs:

    With the advent of 5 Subs and playing 4-2-3-1 during the 100 minutes duration, 2 out of 4 of Godden, Leaburn, Kelman, Mbick will be used in the lone striker role. (1 of them will be injured and won't be in the squad!)
    1 sub used

    In the wide positions in the 3, TC, Grant, JRS and Alli with 2 starting and 2 game changers. When any of these are injured so can't be in the squad, Apter can replace.
    2 subs used

    In the attacking midfield come shadow striker position in the middle of the 3, Carey or Knibbs and even Costello for tactical reasons (Doc out on loan ?) Grant could be the wildcard as he is so versatile.
    1 sub used

    That leaves 1 sub for the defensive midfielders, or defenders.

    Injuries or a player having a mare during a match obviously affect how the subs are used but we have good choices everywhere which we haven't had for a long time.
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 11,619
    ANNOUNCE RAK-SAKYI
  • gringo
    gringo Posts: 1,544
    edited August 21
    ANNOUNCE RAK-SAKYI
    No JESARUN Rak-Saki! 

    We now have 4 African internationals (Rak-Saki 🤞/ Sichenje/ Ouma/Okonkwo) so possibilities of International breaks increases?
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,933
    gringo said:
    ANNOUNCE RAK-SAKYI
    No JESARUN Rak-Saki! 

    We now have 4 African internationals (Rak-Saki/ Sichenje/ Ouma/Okonkwo) so possibilities of International breaks increases?
    We’re in the Championship now, international break is automatic. 
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 8,028
    gringo said:
    ANNOUNCE RAK-SAKYI
    No JESARUN Rak-Saki! 

    We now have 4 African internationals (Rak-Saki 🤞/ Sichenje/ Ouma/Okonkwo) so possibilities of International breaks increases?
    The championship takes an international break anyway. Afcon might be a problem in the future but not this season.

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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 101,265
    gringo said:
    ANNOUNCE RAK-SAKYI
    No JESARUN Rak-Saki! 

    We now have 4 African internationals (Rak-Saki 🤞/ Sichenje/ Ouma/Okonkwo) so possibilities of International breaks increases?
    International Breaks remain the same, because they're set out by FIFA; AFCON (Kenya one of the co-hosts) in 2027 will be in the summer
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 6,677
    AndyG said:
    Redrobo said:
    From Palace forum

    Charlton fans think they will get JRS back however I doubt they could afford the fee so loan would be their only option. I doubt that will happen unless we can't sell him. I suspect the same with Esse.

    It's that time of the window where selling clubs have to decide whether to drop their price, ship out on loan or just stick with him in the hope that they will improve.
     I showed this post to a mate of mine who is a season ticket holder at Palace. His response was as follows :

    “Can Charlton afford £5m with add-ons? Esse would be £10m with add-ons“

    I can’t see us spending £5m on any player so if he does join us I suspect it’s another loan deal.
    £5m would keep us below the rumoured budget of c£10m based on the best guesses of fees paid wouldn’t it?

    Mesik £500K
    Big Billy £500K
    Alli £1M

    Grant, Mcnammara, Chalobah free agents

    Okonkwo and Ouma on loan.

    So £2M spent so far plus loan and signing on fees.

    Some recouped by Anderson, Gilly, Mitchell, and Ezenwata with more to come from Kanu, Assimwe and maybe Doc and Kaminski.

    Soz Yes I would think £5M comes in under last summer... Maybe even leaves a couple of mil for someone else.
    Did we only pay £500k for Billy ? If so that will be the best ROI we have ever had 
    Lloyd Jones was free 
    Yup but I think we will sell Billy !
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 6,505
    If this happens , and I still don’t really believe it will, Grant will have to compete with TC for the left hand side or be competition with Leaburn / Kelman/ Godden for the striker role. 
  • Dannoo_86
    Dannoo_86 Posts: 786
    Or Grant will play in the 10 behind the striker
  • Leeds_Addick
    Leeds_Addick Posts: 4,949
    wmcf123 said:
    If this happens , and I still don’t really believe it will, Grant will have to compete with TC for the left hand side or be competition with Leaburn / Kelman/ Godden for the striker role. 
    That's already going to happen because both of them are much better on the left. I'd expect us to sign a RW whether that's JRS or someone else.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 10,972
    I think with the current Saturday - Wednesday- Saturday that NJ was talking about yesterday in terms of it being hard on the squad , we'll need all the wide options we've got available.
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 2,813
    NabySarr said:
    Sending Apter out would be mental. Leaves us in the exact same position we are in now with only one rw 
    Apter part of the squad this season said NJ and we are looking to add RW to challenge Apter … 
    What Jones says publicly and what the plan is privately are sometimes two different things. 

    Plan all summer has been to sell or loan out the 7 who went on loan last season minus Mbick. And WHEN JRS joins, Apter will fall further down the peaking order 

    Problem is you have to play TC off the left JRS off the right (if he signs) but also think Grant you have to find room to fit in so may be converted into Carey’s role which could allow Apter to be cover on the wing instead and Grant being a 10 option could force an additional of JRC or Knibbs out 

    I really don’t think Grant is a 10. He went there on Saturday while we were chasing the game but I don’t think he really suits there. More likely he ends up playing as a striker I think, or he will just share the minutes with TC on the left which is a scary prospect for championship right backs 
    Personally think Grant is too good to be sharing mins off the bench he should be starting, either way good dilemma for Jones to have 
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 9,090
    fenaddick said:
    Sending Apter out would be mental. Leaves us in the exact same position we are in now with only one rw 
    Apter part of the squad this season said NJ and we are looking to add RW to challenge Apter … 
    What Jones says publicly and what the plan is privately are sometimes two different things. 

    Plan all summer has been to sell or loan out the 7 who went on loan last season minus Mbick. And WHEN JRS joins, Apter will fall further down the peaking order 

    Problem is you have to play TC off the left JRS off the right (if he signs) but also think Grant you have to find room to fit in so may be converted into Carey’s role which could allow Apter to be cover on the wing instead and Grant being a 10 option could force an additional of JRC or Knibbs out 

    Grant in the 10 scares me, don’t think he’ll drop back as deep as Carey or Knibbs do. But it does tally with the idea of Fullah going on loan 
    i like Grant but i think TC and JRS will have a far bigger impact and need to play where they are most effective - Grant can and i think will, float around all those front 4 spots  
  • mcgrandall
    mcgrandall Posts: 955
    edited August 21
    fenaddick said:
    Redrobo said:
    From Palace forum

    Charlton fans think they will get JRS back however I doubt they could afford the fee so loan would be their only option. I doubt that will happen unless we can't sell him. I suspect the same with Esse.

    It's that time of the window where selling clubs have to decide whether to drop their price, ship out on loan or just stick with him in the hope that they will improve.
     I showed this post to a mate of mine who is a season ticket holder at Palace. His response was as follows :

    “Can Charlton afford £5m with add-ons? Esse would be £10m with add-ons“

    I can’t see us spending £5m on any player so if he does join us I suspect it’s another loan deal.
    £5m would keep us below the rumoured budget of c£10m based on the best guesses of fees paid wouldn’t it?

    Mesik £500K
    Big Billy £500K
    Alli £1M

    Grant, Mcnammara, Chalobah free agents

    Okonkwo and Ouma on loan.

    So £2M spent so far plus loan and signing on fees.

    Some recouped by Anderson, Gilly, Mitchell, and Ezenwata with more to come from Kanu, Assimwe and maybe Doc and Kaminski.

    Soz Yes I would think £5M comes in under last summer... Maybe even leaves a couple of mil for someone else.
    Wages will be significantly higher than before. Grant will be earning a lot more than Apter, Chalobah more than Anderson etc. That all eats into your budget
    Gavin Carter stated they were separate budgets a couple of weeks ago. The transfer spend would be similar to last year, but that it included instalments from last year's transfers. Which means, if we are spending the same as last year, but that didn't include the instalments that were to be paid this year and next, the transfer budget was much lower last year than everyone thought.  
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 10,972
    DOUCHER said:
    fenaddick said:
    Sending Apter out would be mental. Leaves us in the exact same position we are in now with only one rw 
    Apter part of the squad this season said NJ and we are looking to add RW to challenge Apter … 
    What Jones says publicly and what the plan is privately are sometimes two different things. 

    Plan all summer has been to sell or loan out the 7 who went on loan last season minus Mbick. And WHEN JRS joins, Apter will fall further down the peaking order 

    Problem is you have to play TC off the left JRS off the right (if he signs) but also think Grant you have to find room to fit in so may be converted into Carey’s role which could allow Apter to be cover on the wing instead and Grant being a 10 option could force an additional of JRC or Knibbs out 

    Grant in the 10 scares me, don’t think he’ll drop back as deep as Carey or Knibbs do. But it does tally with the idea of Fullah going on loan 
    i like Grant but i think TC and JRS will have a far bigger impact and need to play where they are most effective - Grant can and i think will, float around all those front 4 spots  
    Grants versatility is going to be incredibly useful. Don't know how much we'll see of him down the middle but his ability to play all 4 front roles is going to be key.