Attention: Please take a moment to consider our terms and conditions before posting.

POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Preston Nth End: Saturday 29th August 2026: KO 15:00

17891012

Comments

  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 24,365
    edited August 30


    The reason that 18 year old Ivan the Terrible Mesik (because he doesn't take prisoners) from Kazakhstan looks older is because he had to do a 50 mile paper round before school on his bike.
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,661
    edited August 30
    jose said:
    Mwamba a will be 20 in about two weeks, and Mbick 20 in November.
    Be cautious in rushing to judgement about our young Academy graduates, I mean the Campbell critics are learning a lesson about that, but just as the Fullah cameos of last season immediately caught the eye, with Mwamba it was both eyes accompanied by jaw dropping yesterday.
    I have never heard a chant for a graduate happen so early in their Charlton career as I heard from our covered end support yesterday, and there is a lot to be said for the wisdom of crowds.
    "Lee, Lee,  Lee Bowyer"

    Left us to join Leeds when he was 19.

    He did have about 90 games for us, now days they have half a dozen or none at all. Mason Burstow should be a lesson to those thinking of jumping ship too early. 

    But money talks. 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 34,415
    Solidgone said:
    Assimwe is developing into a very good player. That load spell with Walsall has helped hime immensely. I think NJ has recognised it too. Assimwe was excellent at Tottingnum on Wednesday.
    Very good player? League One at best. Struggled to get into Wimbledon's team at times last season.
  • mayoboy
    mayoboy Posts: 31


    The reason that 18 year old Ivan the Terrible Mesik (because he doesn't take prisoners) from Kazakhstan looks older is because he had to do a 50 mile paper round before school on his bike.

    Is he 18 or 25? Looks a good player.

  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,918
    Solidgone said:
    Assimwe is developing into a very good player. That load spell with Walsall has helped hime immensely. I think NJ has recognised it too. Assimwe was excellent at Tottingnum on Wednesday.
    Very good player? League One at best. Struggled to get into Wimbledon's team at times last season.
    This keeps getting repeated on here, but Asiimwe played 35 games last season and was also injured for a short period. 

    Doesn’t leave much space for struggled to get in the team. 
  • jose
    jose Posts: 1,813

    Excessive mood swings are apparently not good for you, or a sign of troubling things, but after the downer at Tottenham we certainly experienced the upper in the Valley at the final whistle of this game. 

    It is hard to process that we are top of the championship after only three games, but with a full complement of nine points from three victories. It feels rather surreal, and so out of our recent experience that being top of the table is a bit hard to compute. But as of this moment Charlton Athletic sit at the very top of the English Championship, with only the zillionaires of the Premier League ahead of us in the English football pyramid.

    What was exhilarating about this game against Preston North End was not the game itself, that was rather uneven, what was exhilarating was the win. Indeed that is Nathan Jones’ consistent modus operandi, get the job done, secure points, do what is necessary with the available resources, achieve stuff, get better, negate the opposition, be a second half team, be a 100 minute team, deploy substitutions intelligently and climb the blimmin table. That is what Nathan Jones says football is all about at this stage of our ‘evolution’, and if you wanna become a pretty team do it in small steps, but in the meantime do not lose and win as much as you can.

    The first half of this game was rather dull. I didn’t feel that Preston had any particular threat, and I thought it was Charlton who had their basic act together and eventually they would ask more and more questions. Which is indeed what happened. The second half started with the substitution of Sonny Carey for Alli and the movement of Karlan Grant into what people call the number 10 role. Alli took over on the right hand side.

    From that moment on with Leaburn and Campbell pretty phenomenal we just completely went at Preston scored a lovely goal from Karlan Grant and were never really in any danger of not winning from that point onwards. I feel sorry for the Preston fans who turned up in honest support, but they experienced the let down all football fans feel regularly.

    Every Charlton player made a positive contribution, Lloyd Jones was phenomenal once again, and there was a really eye catching substitute appearance from Academy graduate Alan Mwamba (20 years old on the 15th September this year).

    Charlton Athletic made a good start last season but injuries and inexperience caught up and led to a concerning conclusion to the campaign. This time around we have good players waiting to return to the squad soon, and a chance for a breather during the next international break. However there are more immediate challenges first, an away game at much improved West Bromwich Albion next Wednesday, followed by Stoke City away next Saturday morning.

    Nathan Jones will make the best out of the circumstances facing him, and maybe the bread and butter of this league will soon have some jam on, or in the preference of some in football regarding Nathan Jones, maybe the bread and butter will have Marmite spread over the top.

  • wolfgang
    wolfgang Posts: 1,177
    Solidgone said:
    I have a dilemma with my travel arrangements; do I make sure I’m here for the 1st May but this won’t matter if we get automatic promotion 🤓😉UTFA
    Keep it free anyway. If no match you could dance round the maypole and fertilize virgins.
  • wolfgang
    wolfgang Posts: 1,177
    Yesterday‘s game was all about Sonny Carey first half and Alli second half. Chalk and cheese. Carey has not started well this season and I think is losing his place in the team. He had no urgency or attack to his game in that first half at all, which was the difference between the teams. Alli is a player that has urgency and attack to his game and it was great to watch. Mwamba was also a very good addition. Both should be considered to start against West Brom. 
    Assuming Chalobah is not fit, they will both start.
  • wolfgang
    wolfgang Posts: 1,177


    The reason that 18 year old Ivan the Terrible Mesik (because he doesn't take prisoners) from Kazakhstan looks older is because he had to do a 50 mile paper round before school on his camel.

  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 30,056
    ct_addick said:
    Surprised at the low attendance…we do have some fickle fans 
    Fourth match in London in a fortnight and there ain't a lot of money about. I'm not surprised at all, people have to make choices and Preston is by far and away the least appealing of those four fixtures. 

  • Sponsored links:



  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 19,438
    Someone on the Preston forum has described Mesik as "a nasty piece of work"

    Mr Burns Excellent GIF - Mr Burns Excellent - Discover  Share GIFs

    Don't mess with Mesik !!!!!
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,516
    edited August 30
    Derby and Preston at home and a ‘free hit’ away tie was never the toughest of starts to a season, but it’s still an unbelievable feeling to be top of the table. I’m not expecting to still be there after West Brom, but you never know. 
    However, I can’t help feeling really positive about the direction we’re moving in. A year or so back there was talk of it not being up to standard, but look at us now. We’ve extended the contracts of three key players who we thought we might lose in Jones, TC and Ramsay. 
    And I can’t remember a time when we signed so many non duds during a window: Danny McNamara, excellent, Karlan Grant, excellent, Ivan Mesik, excellent, Millenic Alli, excellent yesterday, Nathan Chalobah, probably excellent, Billy Koumetio really excellent, Timothy Ouma, I think will be excellent, and Okonkwo, excellent. 
    Add to that Alan Mwamba emerging from the academy, and we now have a team that I’m really looking forward to watching this season. More than any I can remember. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 48,540
    JamesSeed said:
    Derby and Preston at home and a ‘free hit’ away tie was never the toughest of starts to a season, but it’s still an unbelievable feeling to be top of the table. I’m not expecting to still be there after West Brom, but you never know. 
    However, I can’t help feeling really positive about the direction we’re moving in. A year or so back there was talk of it not being up to standard, but look at us now. We’ve extended the contracts of three key players who we thought we might lose in Jones, TC and Ramsay. 
    And I can’t remember a time when we signed so many non duds during a window: Danny McNamara, excellent, Karlan Grant, excellent, Ivan Mesik, excellent, Millenic Alli, excellent yesterday, Nathan Chalobah, probably excellent, Billy Koumetio really excellent, Timothy Ouma, I think will be excellent, and Okonkwo, excellent. 
    Add to that Alan Mwamba emerging from the academy, and we now have a team that I’m really looking forward to watching this season. More than any I can remember. 
    The hope will be is that we will mature and get better. That might make things interesting.
  • I thought in the first half we made way too many Sloopy unforced errors (basically passing to them when under little to no pressure) which will be punished by better teams.

    Second half much better but need to watch the line, offside way too many times.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 34,415
    edited August 30
    I couple of people have mentioned Mbick having a shot that the keeper saved for a corner. I couldn’t remember it. Now I know why, after watching the highlights it was actually Melli Alli.
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 2,657
    JamesSeed said:
    Derby and Preston at home and a ‘free hit’ away tie was never the toughest of starts to a season, but it’s still an unbelievable feeling to be top of the table. I’m not expecting to still be there after West Brom, but you never know. 
    However, I can’t help feeling really positive about the direction we’re moving in. A year or so back there was talk of it not being up to standard, but look at us now. We’ve extended the contracts of three key players who we thought we might lose in Jones, TC and Ramsay. 
    And I can’t remember a time when we signed so many non duds during a window: Danny McNamara, excellent, Karlan Grant, excellent, Ivan Mesik, excellent, Millenic Alli, excellent yesterday, Nathan Chalobah, probably excellent, Billy Koumetio really excellent, Timothy Ouma, I think will be excellent, and Okonkwo, excellent. 
    Add to that Alan Mwamba emerging from the academy, and we now have a team that I’m really looking forward to watching this season. More than any I can remember. 
    Funny because before the season started we had a tricky start, now we’ve won all three, it isn’t the hardest of starts. Strange how views change in hindsight.
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 2,657
    I thought in the first half we made way too many Sloopy unforced errors (basically passing to them when under little to no pressure) which will be punished by better teams.

    Second half much better but need to watch the line, offside way too many times.
    Are you the policeman out of Allo Allo?
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 73,112
    Solidgone said:
    Assimwe is developing into a very good player. That load spell with Walsall has helped hime immensely. I think NJ has recognised it too. Assimwe was excellent at Tottingnum on Wednesday.
    Very good player? League One at best. Struggled to get into Wimbledon's team at times last season.
    This keeps getting repeated on here, but Asiimwe played 35 games last season and was also injured for a short period. 

    Doesn’t leave much space for struggled to get in the team. 
    According to Transfermarkt, started 27 games, came off the bench 8 times, left on the bench 11 times, so seems to have been in every match squad.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 53,175
    Best player today played 90 minutes on Wednesday. Fancy that. 
    Great win, thought Campbell, Grant, Leaburn and particularly Mesik were fantastic today. 
    Leaburn didn't play against Spurs?
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,516
    edited August 30
    Sword65pf said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Derby and Preston at home and a ‘free hit’ away tie was never the toughest of starts to a season, but it’s still an unbelievable feeling to be top of the table. I’m not expecting to still be there after West Brom, but you never know. 
    However, I can’t help feeling really positive about the direction we’re moving in. A year or so back there was talk of it not being up to standard, but look at us now. We’ve extended the contracts of three key players who we thought we might lose in Jones, TC and Ramsay. 
    And I can’t remember a time when we signed so many non duds during a window: Danny McNamara, excellent, Karlan Grant, excellent, Ivan Mesik, excellent, Millenic Alli, excellent yesterday, Nathan Chalobah, probably excellent, Billy Koumetio really excellent, Timothy Ouma, I think will be excellent, and Okonkwo, excellent. 
    Add to that Alan Mwamba emerging from the academy, and we now have a team that I’m really looking forward to watching this season. More than any I can remember. 
    Funny because before the season started we had a tricky start, now we’ve won all three, it isn’t the hardest of starts. Strange how views change in hindsight.
    I haven’t changed mine as it happens. I didn’t think we’d necessarily win both home ties, but there certainly could have been worse teams to come up against. 

  • Sponsored links:



  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 31,145
    Best player today played 90 minutes on Wednesday. Fancy that. 
    Great win, thought Campbell, Grant, Leaburn and particularly Mesik were fantastic today. 
    Leaburn didn't play against Spurs?
    He replaced Knibbs after 66 minutes.
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 2,657
    JamesSeed said:
    Sword65pf said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Derby and Preston at home and a ‘free hit’ away tie was never the toughest of starts to a season, but it’s still an unbelievable feeling to be top of the table. I’m not expecting to still be there after West Brom, but you never know. 
    However, I can’t help feeling really positive about the direction we’re moving in. A year or so back there was talk of it not being up to standard, but look at us now. We’ve extended the contracts of three key players who we thought we might lose in Jones, TC and Ramsay. 
    And I can’t remember a time when we signed so many non duds during a window: Danny McNamara, excellent, Karlan Grant, excellent, Ivan Mesik, excellent, Millenic Alli, excellent yesterday, Nathan Chalobah, probably excellent, Billy Koumetio really excellent, Timothy Ouma, I think will be excellent, and Okonkwo, excellent. 
    Add to that Alan Mwamba emerging from the academy, and we now have a team that I’m really looking forward to watching this season. More than any I can remember. 
    Funny because before the season started we had a tricky start, now we’ve won all three, it isn’t the hardest of starts. Strange how views change in hindsight.
    I haven’t changed mine as it happens. I didn’t think we’d necessarily win both home ties, but there certainly could have been worse teams to come up against. 
    Can only play what’s in front of us
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 53,175
    Probably the most comfortable 1-0 win we'll see this season. Lloydy was imperious and I thought the whole back 4 looked in control all game, that one missed header apart (from 2 yards out lol). Okonkwo didn't have much to do but the whole defence just look so much more assured with him in place of Kaminski.

    First half was, well, meh.  The change at half time really upped the momentum and it became a matter of time before we scored.  Not good to see Chalobah go off but Mwamba was a more than able replacement.

    Alli was excellent today. People comparing him to Apter after the spurs game are way off the mark - he has pace and strength, both of which Apter lacks.

    Leaburn put in a warrior's performance, even tracking back and getting blocks in. Also came close to converting a couple of crosses. He's looking really sharp and deserves to get off the mark soon.

    TC was a threat all game and put in some good crosses with his left foot (yes, really). Grant is such an intelligent footballer with his movement and industry. It looked like the keeper should have saved his shot in real-time but on the replay, it was a good finish.

    Buzzing off the 3 wins. West Brom's going to be tough but who'd bet against us on this form.
    Think its a stretch to say Grant's goal was a good finish. It was heavily deflected but he did very well to get a firm shot off from his starting position. 
    What?
    It was a superb finish.
    Harry Kane would have been proud of that.
    We were sitting right in line and I couldn't believe he managed to squeeze the ball between the keeper and the post.
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 17,615
    Probably the most comfortable 1-0 win we'll see this season. Lloydy was imperious and I thought the whole back 4 looked in control all game, that one missed header apart (from 2 yards out lol). Okonkwo didn't have much to do but the whole defence just look so much more assured with him in place of Kaminski.

    First half was, well, meh.  The change at half time really upped the momentum and it became a matter of time before we scored.  Not good to see Chalobah go off but Mwamba was a more than able replacement.

    Alli was excellent today. People comparing him to Apter after the spurs game are way off the mark - he has pace and strength, both of which Apter lacks.

    Leaburn put in a warrior's performance, even tracking back and getting blocks in. Also came close to converting a couple of crosses. He's looking really sharp and deserves to get off the mark soon.

    TC was a threat all game and put in some good crosses with his left foot (yes, really). Grant is such an intelligent footballer with his movement and industry. It looked like the keeper should have saved his shot in real-time but on the replay, it was a good finish.

    Buzzing off the 3 wins. West Brom's going to be tough but who'd bet against us on this form.
    Think its a stretch to say Grant's goal was a good finish. It was heavily deflected but he did very well to get a firm shot off from his starting position. 
    What?
    It was a superb finish.
    Harry Kane would have been proud of that.
    We were sitting right in line and I couldn't believe he managed to squeeze the ball between the keeper and the post.
    It was a great move but it did take a deflection so a wee touch of luck
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,742
    I couldn't see if it took a deflection, others said it did but i was not sure, it wasn't struck cleanly but i dont think it touched anyone on the was through
  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,398
    Derby and Preston may not look the toughest early home games looking at the table now, but it’s a fact that we took zero points from those two games last season. 
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 10,466
    Blucher said:
    Derby and Preston may not look the toughest early home games looking at the table now, but it’s a fact that we took zero points from those two games last season. 
    But they are down there in great part because we beat them
  • gringo
    gringo Posts: 1,512
    edited August 30
    I couldn't see if it took a deflection, others said it did but i was not sure, it wasn't struck cleanly but i dont think it touched anyone on the was through
    personally couldn't give a monkeys, it went in! Yippee!
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 53,175
    edited August 30
    Talal said:
    Comment on the player ratings re Coventry "Got involved, but I wish he would reduce his backward passing."
    I get this comment last season but I think his forward passing has hugely improved so far this season. That cross field ball to Alli, the defense splitting pass to TC and just generally looking forward first more. He will inevitably have to pass backwards sometimes.
    Maybe I was unduly influenced because in the first half "in front of" where I was sitting he kept turning round and knocking it backwards.

    Yes you're correct second half he played it forward and his wonderful pass helped set up the goal.
    The first time I can recall him making a pass like that.
    So he can do it and yet hasn't previously.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 53,175
    se9addick said:
    panther10 said:
    Great win ,surprised at the turnout having won our first 2 league games 
    13,000 at most. Lots of absent season ticket holders given it was Preston and the August bank holiday, but the match pricing is wrong IMO and will continue to bite on home ticket sales. It’s a shame because the entertainment value is much higher.
    Ouch, that’s really disappointing.

    Agree on the ticket pricing, my wife comes to a couple of matches a season and decided she wanted to come to this one. £35 + £1.50 a ticket in the north upper feels egregious. 
    17,256 officially.
    I thought there looked like @15,000 actually there (without starting a disagreement).