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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Queens Park Rangers: Wednesday 9th September 2026: KO 20:0

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  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 12,067
    Leuth said:
    What exactly was Mbick playing at? And why didn't we take the 7m? Maybe the laziest performance I've ever seen. Can't be picked again for a long long time, put literally any forward on instead 
    I really don't know what to make of him. He did one really nice bit of control and turn but mostly just kind of jogs around. Struggling to see why he's attracting the level of interest at the moment.
  • Beckboy
    Beckboy Posts: 2,001
    Any news on when Chalobah is likely to be fit?.Seems all our injuries turn into months not weeks
  • DDOUBLEE
    DDOUBLEE Posts: 2,768
    fenaddick said:
    DDOUBLEE said:
    Leuth said:
    What exactly was Mbick playing at? And why didn't we take the 7m? Maybe the laziest performance I've ever seen. Can't be picked again for a long long time, put literally any forward on instead 
    There is no OTHER FORWARD

    Grant was on the pitch to be fair, could've gone up front as a counter attack option. 
    He did for a bit and was totally ineffective 
    All the comments were about how we can't make the ball stick up front...
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 16,328
    I'll trust he's seen a better angle of it than we do. It looked close but not something I would blow a gasket over. 
    Perhaps the combination of last game and this makes it worse. 
  • Zulu
    Zulu Posts: 498
    I'm sort of surprised by all the negativity. It wasn't a particularly fascinating watch but then it's not meant to be. We set up to defend well against a possession team who have started the season superbly and then catch them on the break with a sucker punch. Which we did, but it was disallowed. We also had a lot going for us when Leaburn had their defenders completely in his control but he had to go off injured. We then created another chance in behind but Grant was fouled with nothing given from the terrible ref. The reality is for all their possession QPR had one really good chance and that was created for them by Tyler Bindon. Okonkwo had nothing to do other than that and we mostly watched the ball sail harmlessly out of play. It doesn't really feel like last season where we were hanging on at times and desperately waiting for the whistle despite having about 50 defenders on the pitch, we feel much more controlled in our defending.
    The real frustration is that we set up with two central midfielders who can pick a pass and mostly missed them out to send it long, even when Leaburn was off. The few times we let our midfielders get a foot on the ball we created our best chances through the middle and best used the pace in behind. I really hope we can figure out a way to start involving Skipp and Coventry more in games because it will make such a big difference. 
    Regardless though we're 5th after 6 games, 2 points off the top and if you take away the Stoke aberration we've got 5 points off the teams currently in 1st, 2nd and 4th. That's a pretty good start.
    Were you watching a different game?
    We were shit - zero positives from it other than 1 point.
    To watch it was like watching a horror movie written by a comedian. It was appallingly bad.
    We are going to struggle to keep our crowds above 15k watching that shit every game.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 36,844
    I'd like to say, that wasn't pretty to watch, but a point is ok, on to Saturday and Portsmouth, where I feel we should get a bit more freedom and the win to cap off 4 points from the two home matches...
    You mean the Portsmouth who've not played mid week & will be well rested. 

    You should always try to beat the team in front of you. Don't worry about the next game to come.  
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 13,171
    “He’s looking at me as if I’d volleyed his cat”.

    :smile:
  • Dazzler21 said:
    IR94 said:
    jones was completely outclassed tatically, just lucky qpr were toothless in front of goal
    Genuinely what did you expect him to do? Take the game to in form QPR with literally half our squad out injured.

    pack it in 
    You do know QPR have got as many injuries as we have? 

    Jones hasn't covered himself in glory tonight with his tactics and not changing things earlier.
    And QPR have spent years in this division building their squad whereas we're still pretty fresh back and have a team that's largely been built this summer then ravaged by injuries. 

    This is the latest I could find for their injuries... Some of those played today - So I disagree they have as many as us.
    I'm not sure what youre looking at but I can see Poku is missing to start with.

    Listen I live in Qpr territory, 2 of my best mates are QPR fans and they have both said to me they have got a lot of injuries as well.

    And because of financial problems they've had, there have been a lot of changes in their playing staff in recent seasons. They are a far from settled team.
  • Of course it was a tough watch but they apparently had most of the possession against Middlesbrough too, and we are not fucking Middlesbrough. 

    Of course Binden made a bad mistake which could have been costly, but he is 21, hasnt been playing , and this was his 3rd in 7 days. I think he will turn out well.  Skipp is not up to speed either but I started to see what he can bring to the team. That turn and pass to TC for the “goal” was sublime, and I dont know who else we have who can do that. (Maybe Chalobah)

    What amazes me is that we are already on page 3, loads of moaning, but no moaning at all about an offside goal that according to the CTV comms is clearly on. There clearly needs to be VAR for a decision like that. And I am also pissed off that I cannot see a replay from any other angle because of this shit deal with Sky. 

    God I hope Miles is ok. The injury thing is just horrendous. But it looks like it’s not just us. It looks to me like the quite ridiculous pressure to cram in games before a ridiculous 3 week break. 
    52%….
  • TheHerminator
    TheHerminator Posts: 1,559
    Good god we have some miserable fucking fans.
    Did you not watch that game for 90 mins?

    I've got a colonoscopy next week - it's gonna be more enjoyable looking at the inside of my arse on a TV screen than what we watched then.
    I watched a patched together team get a poing with 9 first team players out through injury. 

    It was not pretty but I’m not going to chuck myself off a bridge having got 11 points already this year. 
    Who’s the 9 players who come back into that first team?
    Into the squad? 

    Billy
    kellman
    Godden
    chalobah
    danny
    bfk
    mannion
    edwards

    All get back in the first team match day squad 

    I’m struggling for the 9th
    So we weren’t missing 9 first team players then. 
    Eh? 
    Basically from your list we're missing: Ramsay or McNamara, Chalobah, Koumetio as First Team Players
    As all of those nine (Mannion etc.) likely / possibly wouldn't necessarily have started tonight given the options that did start
    All 9 make the first team match day squad no? 
    My guy - it’s all there in writing. You said we were missing 9 first team players.

    Who are the 9 that go into our first team.

    Our first team is the starting 11 players.
    We’ll have to agree to disagree then. 

    First team for me means the first team squad. Match day selections. 

    Your first 11 changes regularly.

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  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 16,328
    edited September 9
    DDOUBLEE said:
    fenaddick said:
    DDOUBLEE said:
    Leuth said:
    What exactly was Mbick playing at? And why didn't we take the 7m? Maybe the laziest performance I've ever seen. Can't be picked again for a long long time, put literally any forward on instead 
    There is no OTHER FORWARD

    Grant was on the pitch to be fair, could've gone up front as a counter attack option. 
    He did for a bit and was totally ineffective 
    All the comments were about how we can't make the ball stick up front...

    You said there was no other forward no? That's all I replied to. 
  • DDOUBLEE
    DDOUBLEE Posts: 2,768
    Any comments from NJ about the actual game? I don't really care anymore about the ref from the Stoke game
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 12,067
    Zulu said:
    I'm sort of surprised by all the negativity. It wasn't a particularly fascinating watch but then it's not meant to be. We set up to defend well against a possession team who have started the season superbly and then catch them on the break with a sucker punch. Which we did, but it was disallowed. We also had a lot going for us when Leaburn had their defenders completely in his control but he had to go off injured. We then created another chance in behind but Grant was fouled with nothing given from the terrible ref. The reality is for all their possession QPR had one really good chance and that was created for them by Tyler Bindon. Okonkwo had nothing to do other than that and we mostly watched the ball sail harmlessly out of play. It doesn't really feel like last season where we were hanging on at times and desperately waiting for the whistle despite having about 50 defenders on the pitch, we feel much more controlled in our defending.
    The real frustration is that we set up with two central midfielders who can pick a pass and mostly missed them out to send it long, even when Leaburn was off. The few times we let our midfielders get a foot on the ball we created our best chances through the middle and best used the pace in behind. I really hope we can figure out a way to start involving Skipp and Coventry more in games because it will make such a big difference. 
    Regardless though we're 5th after 6 games, 2 points off the top and if you take away the Stoke aberration we've got 5 points off the teams currently in 1st, 2nd and 4th. That's a pretty good start.
    Were you watching a different game?
    We were shit - zero positives from it other than 1 point.
    To watch it was like watching a horror movie written by a comedian. It was appallingly bad.
    We are going to struggle to keep our crowds above 15k watching that shit every game.
    We'd just lost 4-0 and kept a clean sheet, so there's a positive for a start.
  • QPR very good on the ball but Jones set us up to defend crosses and to defend the centre of the pitch with numbers, as they’re very poor in the air. So we sacrificed the wings and possession. We set up to try and steal the game. It worked except the officials….

    I’m not sure we’re seeing much of an evolution but our players seem marginally better than last season so we’re better at executing our negative tactics. This is fine but it’s fair to wonder if there’s a ceiling to where NJ will take us. It’s more than enough for now though. 
  • Talal said:
    Leuth said:
    What exactly was Mbick playing at? And why didn't we take the 7m? Maybe the laziest performance I've ever seen. Can't be picked again for a long long time, put literally any forward on instead 
    I really don't know what to make of him. He did one really nice bit of control and turn but mostly just kind of jogs around. Struggling to see why he's attracting the level of interest at the moment.
    A lot of the time when players are younger it’s the frame. 
    Mbick is a big guy and seems to be strong. That’s something that teams can work with. The other stuff can more or less be taught
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 48,587
    The crazy thing is, if the officials were competent, we would probably have won it. Still you can't expect that to be the case in this league as we all know.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 36,844
    Good god we have some miserable fucking fans.
    Agreed, why don't they just go and support Arsenal 
    My son just said this to me when he called me coming back from the game and I was ranting. 

    No one, not even my son, tells me who I can or can't support. 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 33,381
    I said in a previous thread that the three week international break is ludicrous (and it is really) but we really need it as we have to get some of these injured players back. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 101,531
    edited September 9
    I'd like to say, that wasn't pretty to watch, but a point is ok, on to Saturday and Portsmouth, where I feel we should get a bit more freedom and the win to cap off 4 points from the two home matches...
    You mean the Portsmouth who've not played mid week & will be well rested. 

    You should always try to beat the team in front of you. Don't worry about the next game to come.  
    Hang on... Wasn't one of the arguments for playing our First Team vs. Spurs because of momentum, rather than resting them with the prospect of Preston in mind? - Now we go on to play Pompey, having the momentum of recovered from a 4-0, whilst Pompey come into the game well rested (like our eleven vs. Preston) - So which is right?

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  • Would like to see Mwamba start on Saturday, always looks positive and can actually run with the ball. Mesik is quality. Bindon has looked really shaky so far, hopefully he settles into it. Carey and Bell were diabolical.
  • DDOUBLEE
    DDOUBLEE Posts: 2,768
    Good god we have some miserable fucking fans.
    Agreed, why don't they just go and support Arsenal 
    My son just said this to me when he called me coming back from the game and I was ranting. 

    No one, not even my son, tells me who I can or can't support. 
    Go and support Arsenal
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 5,514
    The crazy thing is, if the officials were competent, we would probably have won it. Still you can't expect that to be the case in this league as we all know.
    we were saying this in L1 tho
  • TheHerminator
    TheHerminator Posts: 1,559
    Good god we have some miserable fucking fans.
    Agreed, why don't they just go and support Arsenal 
    My son just said this to me when he called me coming back from the game and I was ranting. 

    No one, not even my son, tells me who I can or can't support. 
    I’m 90% convinced now that you’re a parody  account 
  • DDOUBLEE
    DDOUBLEE Posts: 2,768
    The crazy thing is, if the officials were competent, we would probably have won it. Still you can't expect that to be the case in this league as we all know.
    we were saying this in L1 tho
    The biggest myth is the idea that the officials "get better" the more you move up the leagues, they are atrocious at every level in England
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 11,053
    Talal said:
    Leuth said:
    What exactly was Mbick playing at? And why didn't we take the 7m? Maybe the laziest performance I've ever seen. Can't be picked again for a long long time, put literally any forward on instead 
    I really don't know what to make of him. He did one really nice bit of control and turn but mostly just kind of jogs around. Struggling to see why he's attracting the level of interest at the moment.
    A lot of the time when players are younger it’s the frame. 
    Mbick is a big guy and seems to be strong. That’s something that teams can work with. The other stuff can more or less be taught
    This is it exactly, they'll back themselves to teach the rest but the size and physicality will immediately have him on clubs radars , along with what he did at Col U. 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 16,328
    Good god we have some miserable fucking fans.
    Did you not watch that game for 90 mins?

    I've got a colonoscopy next week - it's gonna be more enjoyable looking at the inside of my arse on a TV screen than what we watched then.
    I watched a patched together team get a poing with 9 first team players out through injury. 

    It was not pretty but I’m not going to chuck myself off a bridge having got 11 points already this year. 
    Who’s the 9 players who come back into that first team?
    Into the squad? 

    Billy
    kellman
    Godden
    chalobah
    danny
    bfk
    mannion
    edwards

    All get back in the first team match day squad 

    I’m struggling for the 9th
    So we weren’t missing 9 first team players then. 
    Eh? 
    Basically from your list we're missing: Ramsay or McNamara, Chalobah, Koumetio as First Team Players
    As all of those nine (Mannion etc.) likely / possibly wouldn't necessarily have started tonight given the options that did start
    All 9 make the first team match day squad no? 
    My guy - it’s all there in writing. You said we were missing 9 first team players.

    Who are the 9 that go into our first team.

    Our first team is the starting 11 players.
    We’ll have to agree to disagree then. 

    First team for me means the first team squad. Match day selections. 

    Your first 11 changes regularly.

    I'll be the first to congratulate Josh Laqeretabua on his first first-team appearance today. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 36,844
    MarcusH26 said:
    Getting worried about that No10 role. Carey looks like he doesn't fit the formation at all and Jones clearly doesn't trust Knibbs for whatever reason, JRC is a square peg in a round hole there. 

    Not really sure what else we can try there unless you play a flat 3 in midfield and bring in Mwambas energy. 
    Grant as the 10, and either Apter, Alli or Nkeng on the right. 


  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 48,587
    Talal said:
    Leuth said:
    What exactly was Mbick playing at? And why didn't we take the 7m? Maybe the laziest performance I've ever seen. Can't be picked again for a long long time, put literally any forward on instead 
    I really don't know what to make of him. He did one really nice bit of control and turn but mostly just kind of jogs around. Struggling to see why he's attracting the level of interest at the moment.
    A lot of the time when players are younger it’s the frame. 
    Mbick is a big guy and seems to be strong. That’s something that teams can work with. The other stuff can more or less be taught
    It is a jump for him. He needs, and I am sure he will get, a coach going through his contribution and suggesting what he could do differently.
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 5,556
    A very, very difficult watch but a hard-earned point.
    We really made it difficult for ourselves at times and the officials seem to be going out of their way not to help us.
    Don't understand the insistence on playing 4 at the back when we don't currently have the players for it. At least he eventually switched.