Saturday v Norwich: Skipp, Coventry, Both or Neither?

I would give Mwamba a go alongside Skipp..... we need somebody who can pass the ball forward before Chalobah is back.

only one at a time. Coventry for me, as I reckon he the faster of the two.

Id have either (not both) with mwamba and carey both in front. We need some creativity / goals, but with players that can provide some defensive cover. 

cafc_se7 said:

DamoNorthStand said:

I would give Mwamba a go alongside Skipp..... we need somebody who can pass the ball forward before Chalobah is back.

Skipp shouldn’t play again this season after that performance Saturday. 

And Cov? He was diabolical

Leuth said:

I'm incredibly excited for Coventry to be back on the Nathan Jones shitlist (as usually happens when he has to do the whole midfield on his own for a while) except this time without a Coady to replace him with and the consequent number of chances the next few opponents of ours will create. You'll notice Watford spent the last 30 minutes creating absolutely all manner of chances against us, and that their first goal came when Coventry went to ground to win a tackle, the ball broke to theirs, and he got to run at us while Coventry was on the ground. Cue Mwamba not knowing what to do and our defence backing off until he shot. So yeah, bring on the Coventry axe. It'll accelerate the Jones sacking. Maybe we'll get a new manager who, like Ireland's boss, realises you can play the bloke so long as he has people around him who show for the fucking thing 

You can’t defend that Coventry performance. He’s been mostly good this season but that was by far his worst game for a while. Mwamba came on and played more line breaking passes in about 10 minutes than Coventry and Skipp did all of the first half. Mwamba didn’t seem to have a problem with people not showing for the ball

DamoNorthStand said:

I would give Mwamba a go alongside Skipp..... we need somebody who can pass the ball forward before Chalobah is back.

Did you not see him second half all over the place at fault for Watford goal …. You have to stick with Skipp and Coventry cause looked what happened without them .. …. The problem not the mid but further up the pitch …. All three should be dropped on Saturday if NJ true TJ his word ….. we will play 4231 on Saturday …….

msomerton said:

only one at a time. Coventry for me, as I reckon he the faster of the two.

This.

And then Mwamba next to him. Better still Chalobah, if fit of course.

Then do something to get us front footed & bums off seats & play Nkeng on the right, TC on the left and Knibbs in the middle. 

Depends how Norwich line up, and what resources we have available. Here's their line up v Portsmouth. Maghoma came on for Slimane on 57 mins.

Cov yes - Skipp no 

Norwich have lost 6 on the bounce - can see where they will break that record, we look devoid of ideas and generally pretty crap  

killerandflash said:

NabySarr said:

Leuth said:

I'm incredibly excited for Coventry to be back on the Nathan Jones shitlist (as usually happens when he has to do the whole midfield on his own for a while) except this time without a Coady to replace him with and the consequent number of chances the next few opponents of ours will create. You'll notice Watford spent the last 30 minutes creating absolutely all manner of chances against us, and that their first goal came when Coventry went to ground to win a tackle, the ball broke to theirs, and he got to run at us while Coventry was on the ground. Cue Mwamba not knowing what to do and our defence backing off until he shot. So yeah, bring on the Coventry axe. It'll accelerate the Jones sacking. Maybe we'll get a new manager who, like Ireland's boss, realises you can play the bloke so long as he has people around him who show for the fucking thing 

You can’t defend that Coventry performance. He’s been mostly good this season but that was by far his worst game for a while. Mwamba came on and played more line breaking passes in about 10 minutes than Coventry and Skipp did all of the first half. Mwamba didn’t seem to have a problem with people not showing for the ball

Mwamba was much better with the ball, but worse defensively. Positionally he got caught out too much.

On Saturday Skipp was better than Coventry until the silly booking. Followed by the near second booking. He was subbed because he was likely to get sent off, not because he was the worst player out there. 

It's a tough call, as none of our available midfielder conbinations are good enough to play in a 2. Maybe 4231 with Mwamba as the 10? Or Carey as the 10, but deeper then he usually is.

An argument for a Skipp-Mwamba pairing. His experience would be more helpful for talking Mwamba through the game

killerandflash said:

NabySarr said:

Leuth said:

I'm incredibly excited for Coventry to be back on the Nathan Jones shitlist (as usually happens when he has to do the whole midfield on his own for a while) except this time without a Coady to replace him with and the consequent number of chances the next few opponents of ours will create. You'll notice Watford spent the last 30 minutes creating absolutely all manner of chances against us, and that their first goal came when Coventry went to ground to win a tackle, the ball broke to theirs, and he got to run at us while Coventry was on the ground. Cue Mwamba not knowing what to do and our defence backing off until he shot. So yeah, bring on the Coventry axe. It'll accelerate the Jones sacking. Maybe we'll get a new manager who, like Ireland's boss, realises you can play the bloke so long as he has people around him who show for the fucking thing 

You can’t defend that Coventry performance. He’s been mostly good this season but that was by far his worst game for a while. Mwamba came on and played more line breaking passes in about 10 minutes than Coventry and Skipp did all of the first half. Mwamba didn’t seem to have a problem with people not showing for the ball

Mwamba was much better with the ball, but worse defensively. Positionally he got caught out too much.

On Saturday Skipp was better than Coventry until the silly booking. Followed by the near second booking. He was subbed because he was likely to get sent off, not because he was the worst player out there. 

It's a tough call, as none of our available midfielder conbinations are good enough to play in a 2. Maybe 4231 with Mwamba as the 10? Or Carey as the 10, but deeper then he usually is.

This is where I am as well. I don't think Mwamba looked ready to play in a holding 2, even if he is naturally a more holding player. Yes, he played the ball forward into feet, but he just got caught out positionally too much for me to play in a holding two. 

I hate to be the one to say it, but I would stick with Skipp and Coventry and for me, the third in midfield is going to be crucial. I would personally bring Carey back in. He presses well, and can find pockets of space, even if his distribution isn't the best. He can also drive forward with the ball and score, plus he's good from dead balls (including long throws).

I think having that third in midfield and going back to a back four will make a big difference. We were out numbered in midfield on Saturday, which Jones didn't address until he brought Knibbs and Carey on.

Don't get me wrong, I don't love Skipp and Cov together, but I think they are currently our two best holding midfielders. And I do think having a natural 10 ahead of them, rather than Grant or no 10 (Saturday), will help ease some of their burden.

Both snails so NO to both 

When Coventry was playing for Ireland over the international break he was spraying passes like a prime Claus Jensen,  back to Charlton and reverts to his usual sideways or backwards passing

bolloxbolder said:

They both should start Saturday. Until Chalobah is back, they are the best pairing. Bring Mwamba on for Skipp, last 20. 

I fear what will happen in that 70 minutes you want Cov and Skipp together.