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WSS
WSS Posts: 25,070
edited May 2010 in Not Sports Related
Breaking News on Sky that Mr. Brown is on his way and wants the party to elect a new leader.

To open the door for Lib Dems?
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  • pilchard
    pilchard Posts: 3,763
    Tata Gord.
  • JT
    JT Posts: 12,348
    Come on Lib Dems, turn to the Labour side.
  • bibble
    bibble Posts: 1,052
    Hmmm... the world is in recession, Brown and Labour have looked after the economy, so now we have an unproven group to pull us out of the mess!!!

    I'll give it 18 months of Tory/Lib dem screw ups, a forced election and then another landslide to labour!!
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,070
    It'll be Lab/Lib now Bibbab...
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,002
    [cite]Posted By: bibble[/cite]Hmmm... the world is in recession, Brown and Labour have looked after the economy, so now we have an unproven group to pull us out of the mess!!!

    If the current recession is what you call looking after the economy, then i'd hate to see it neglected!!
  • ThreadKiller
    ThreadKiller Posts: 8,620
    so does cameron resign now too?
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    [cite]Posted By: WSS[/cite]It'll be Lab/Lib now Bibbab...

    It's not terribly democratic, but I do hope so - I'm never keen on the Tories but there's just something that make me particularly wary of Cameron and his cronies.
  • bibble
    bibble Posts: 1,052
    Chris,
    Brown and Labour did not cause the recession, whoever was in power, the recesson would have happened. It was how it was managed that counted, they have had experience with the economy, pre the recession life was bloody good. If we were in the euro, as some of the parties wanted we would be totally up sh!t street.
    I suspect a lot of people on here did not live through the previous tory government. What a laugh that was!!

    *Climbs down from soapbox!
  • Marco
    Marco Posts: 397
    I was chatting to a bloke who is a member of the Liberal party & he was saying on Friday eve,he thought all the discussions between Lib & Cons over the weekend were just a smoke screen to make it seen the Libs hadn't rushed into anything.
    He was as sure as he could be that the Libs would join up with Labour on the understanding that both 1) Gordon Brown was removed as leader immediately or gave a date within the next few months when he'd walk 2) Proportional representation came in NOW and there would be no turning back on it.

    Maybe eh?
  • cafcdan18
    cafcdan18 Posts: 3,664
    regardless of political views, we are supposed to live in a democracy. How is a lib-lab coalition a democracy? the tories got just as many votes as Labour did with their landlside in 97 yet due to the voting system we are left with a hung parliament which imho could be the norm in the next couple of general elections, I would not be shocked to see another general election before xmas and the same result as this one.
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  • T
    T Posts: 1,348
    Trillions of pounds of national debt is looking after the economy?! I bet Labour HQ are desperate for the Torys and Libs to do a deal after the next 4 years of tax increases, job cuts in the public sector and a general crap time had by the all governed by a coalition trying to tidy up the mess left by the previous government Labour should have power for years from 2014...
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,079
    Gone!

    Miliband will be the next leader.
  • JT
    JT Posts: 12,348
    Anyone just watching Sky News just then?

    Adam Boulton squaring up to Alistar Campbell. Getting extremely wound up. Sky news very bitter about this election.
  • I've looked into my crystal ball and over the next 12/18 months I see:

    all that will be achieved through a Lib/Lab coalition will be a referendum on voting reform. One of the Milliband's will take over, and I think the referendum will succeed and the choice picking system will come in.

    Once that's done a new election will be called.......
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,033
    I'm a Labour supporter and voter, but surely the Conservatives deserve the chance to run the country ? They overwhelmingly finished ahead of Labour and Lib's (who still wouldn't have a majority between them).

    Either way I'd prefer the Tory's to get in for about 12 months, take the heat for all the cuts which are necessary and will be carried out by whoever gets in and then Labour come back next year, with a new leader revitalised and win the genereal election which will sureley take place when a Con-Lib coalition fails.

    On BBC they're calling this "a momentous moment in British politics" ?

    The irony that the greatest acheivement of Browns premiership shall probably be his departure.
  • johnny73
    johnny73 Posts: 4,567
    more people voted for Lab and Lib combined than the tories. So i have no problem with a coalition. I think it will only last as long as it takes for electoral reform to be passed into law (a year maybe). We will all then go back to the polls knowing our votes will count.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,347
    edited May 2010
    I hope David Miliband doesn't take it. He's got a very long career ahead of him and to waste his primeminsterial period at this point would be a bad idea - I'm sure most people will agree that whatever form the government now takes, it's not going to last very long.

    That being said, he's by far the best politician in the Labour party at the moment and I can't imagine who else has the nous, sharpness and profile to take it.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 33,995
    Anyone but Ed Balls ... he's too tied with Charlie Whelan
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    have you not seen what labour have done to us?
  • Alex Wright
    Alex Wright Posts: 8,214
    Latest odds for the new Labour leader:

    David Milliband 5-2
    Alan Johnson 6-1
    Alan Curbishley 8-1
    Harriet Harman 12-1
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  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 33,995
    [cite]Posted By: Alex Wright[/cite]Latest odds for the new Labour leader:

    David Milliband 5-2
    Alan Johnson 6-1
    Alan Curbishley 8-1
    Harriet Harman 12-1

    Vote Curbs ... we will always be safe ;-)
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,070
    He just wouldnt take the country to the next level though.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 33,995
    [cite]Posted By: WSS[/cite]He just wouldnt take the country to the next level though.

    LOL
  • IA
    IA Posts: 6,103
    [cite]Posted By: cafcdan18[/cite]regardless of political views, we are supposed to live in a democracy. How is a lib-lab coalition a democracy? the tories got just as many votes as Labour did with their landlside in 97 yet due to the voting system we are left with a hung parliament which imho could be the norm in the next couple of general elections, I would not be shocked to see another general election before xmas and the same result as this one.

    Between Labour and the Lib Dems they got 52% of the popular vote. Add in the SNP or whoever to that and you have a decent majority of the public.

    I'd still prefer a Con-Lib government with electoral reform, because I think that'd be more stable and stability is important given the tough time the government's going to have. But I wouldn't call a Lab-Lib-etc coalition undemocratic. You could argue that Labour voters knew that they were getting rid of Brown either way (Clegg said he wouldn't have Brown as PM, if they're in opposition they'd probably replace him)

    Curbs for Labour leader. ;-)
  • ThreadKiller
    ThreadKiller Posts: 8,620
    i won't be satisfied unless we are ahead of china and the usa. no reason why we shouldn't be
  • ken from bexley
    ken from bexley Posts: 5,083
    I think it will be postie Al..... the ex marxist..... might even get a bit of socialism back in the labour party! although he did oppose clause IV......

    Seems to be short lived even if they do get together with all the others... but cannot see it lasting too long.

    So unelected Prime minister,looses election , and resigns from party...... but still PM. ehm!........
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 33,995
    Johnson seems to be the only one acceptable to Brownites and Blairites ... and the unions.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219
    Damn, I was hoping that Brown staying would mean we got rid of Brunello but looks like were going to have to put up with him for a bit longer.
  • Ollywozere
    Ollywozere Posts: 1,541
    edited May 2010
    [cite]Posted By: JT[/cite]Anyone just watching Sky News just then?

    Adam Boulton squaring up to Alistar Campbell. Getting extremely wound up. Sky news very bitter about this election.

    Adam Boulton Squares Up To Alastair Campbell

    Funny Stuff! Get's interesting around the 4:30 mark
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 33,995
    Hague has just announced they are offering LibDem a coalition and a referendum on electoral reform