POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Sheffield Wednesday: Saturday 18th October 2025: KO 15:00
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Honestly, at the start of the season wouldn't have had Carey down as a best signing, after mix reports from Blackpool fans, I thought he would of been a squad option, but he has been immense, and now arguably our most important player15
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I'm so confused as to why we've bought Kelman at this stage. Carey is the nuts, what a player2
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What the hell was he thinking ? It was a fair challenge ? he won the ball cleanly ? (he didn't touch it). He waved play on, he shouldn't be allowed to referee ever again.killerandflash said:At HT I didn't think we were playing that well, and thought Wednesday posed an attacking threat to our slightly shaky defence, so not a massive surprise they scored in the second half.
Unfair to blame the introduction of Tanto and Miles for that, as Wednesday had a lot of the ball before the changes. I worry about the minutes Coventry and Doc are playing, while Burke and Bree faded before they were taken off. Carey was excellent, but in that attacking presser role, he seems to fade after an hour too.
Jones was a rock as always, I doubt there's a better CB in the air in the division.
I'm not one to moan about refs, but that incident at the end was ludicrous. The most obvious red card ever, yet without the assistant he wouldn't have given it.4 -
Every win is three points towards safety. That’s massive as far as I’m concerned. Second half a lesson in just how hard this league can be. We’re definitely competitive though and if I were a betting man I’d say we have enough to stay up but a couple of bad results and we’d be looking over our shoulders. I’m definitely starting to become very concerned about our forward line. Big problems there. I’m not having it that it doesn’t matter who scores the goals. Forwards need to chip in with their share. At present Leaburn, Campbell and Kelman are probably the least effective front trio in the league. I hope January brings some money with it because unless we start getting our forwards firing we’re going to make things much more difficult than they might otherwise be.3
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If Leaburn and Tanto start on Tuesday I can guarantee we will be pinned in our own penalty area from the first minute.Blucher said:Well, we certainly made hard work of that. Having been beautifully placed at half-time, we contrived to almost squander a comfortable 2-0 lead. Ultimately, though, it’s another 3 precious points to keep us in the calm waters of mid-table - 15 down, 45 to go.
We were hardly fluent in the first half but created a number of openings against a very shaky Wednesday defence, with Sonny Carey’s desire to shoot on sight and then follow up giving us an early lead. Bree’s excellent free-kick laid on the second for Burke just before half time and we went in feeling uncharacteristically comfortable.
Wednesday continued to look vulnerable throughout the second half but managed to achieve a measure of control in midfield and push us deep. Our ‘press’ seemed to fall apart and Wednesday found a lot of space in midfield to work the ball to within 30 yards of our goal. Very uncharacteristic of a Charlton side under Nathan. Their goal when it came was deserved and no surprise and, duly encouraged, Wednesday pressed forward for an equaliser. They missed one decent opportunity with a header squirting wide, while we broke on them on several occasions but a lack of quality in the final ball let us down.
In the end, we saw the game out reasonably well, while also being treated to Wednesday’s keeper reprising Schumacher’s 1982 assault on Patrick Battiston. To the amazement of everyone in the ground, the ref waved play on until his Lino set him straight. Fortunately, Tanto was unscathed (not a man to bump into) and although Macca was unable to insert the ball into the top corner against the midget in goal, it mattered not.
Not our best performance by any means but Carey was excellent and Jones, Bell, Bree and Leaburn also did very well.
On to Ipswich, where I feel Leaburn and Tanto may start. We looked a little flat in midfield today but Carey is undroppable and Jones understandably trusts the Coventry/Doc combination in the centre that has generally served us so well. Hopefully Anderson will be on the bench if we need to inject a bit of energy and pace.
15 points from 10 games is a fine return - happy days.
It is extraordinarily strange to me that people cannot accept the evidence of their own eyes to see how much pressure we have been under when those two are up front.
Having said that, and having heard NJ say he will rotate, we may start with those two, but only because Hull is a more winnable game and Ipswich is a bit of a write off, or 'free hit' as the saying goes.
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He did touch it actually!charltonbob said:
What the hell was he thinking ? It was a fair challenge ? he won the ball cleanly ? (he didn't touch it). He waved play on, he shouldn't be allowed to referee ever again.killerandflash said:At HT I didn't think we were playing that well, and thought Wednesday posed an attacking threat to our slightly shaky defence, so not a massive surprise they scored in the second half.
Unfair to blame the introduction of Tanto and Miles for that, as Wednesday had a lot of the ball before the changes. I worry about the minutes Coventry and Doc are playing, while Burke and Bree faded before they were taken off. Carey was excellent, but in that attacking presser role, he seems to fade after an hour too.
Jones was a rock as always, I doubt there's a better CB in the air in the division.
I'm not one to moan about refs, but that incident at the end was ludicrous. The most obvious red card ever, yet without the assistant he wouldn't have given it.
With his hand. Outside the box.4 -
Of the three teams Charlton are higher placed than both Hull and Ipswich. Not much between any of them. Not sure why you’d think Ipswich is a “right off” or Hull is more winnable. Hard to predict either fixture in my humble opinion.Southbank said:
If Leaburn and Tanto start on Tuesday I can guarantee we will be pinned in our own penalty area from the first minute.Blucher said:Well, we certainly made hard work of that. Having been beautifully placed at half-time, we contrived to almost squander a comfortable 2-0 lead. Ultimately, though, it’s another 3 precious points to keep us in the calm waters of mid-table - 15 down, 45 to go.
We were hardly fluent in the first half but created a number of openings against a very shaky Wednesday defence, with Sonny Carey’s desire to shoot on sight and then follow up giving us an early lead. Bree’s excellent free-kick laid on the second for Burke just before half time and we went in feeling uncharacteristically comfortable.
Wednesday continued to look vulnerable throughout the second half but managed to achieve a measure of control in midfield and push us deep. Our ‘press’ seemed to fall apart and Wednesday found a lot of space in midfield to work the ball to within 30 yards of our goal. Very uncharacteristic of a Charlton side under Nathan. Their goal when it came was deserved and no surprise and, duly encouraged, Wednesday pressed forward for an equaliser. They missed one decent opportunity with a header squirting wide, while we broke on them on several occasions but a lack of quality in the final ball let us down.
In the end, we saw the game out reasonably well, while also being treated to Wednesday’s keeper reprising Schumacher’s 1982 assault on Patrick Battiston. To the amazement of everyone in the ground, the ref waved play on until his Lino set him straight. Fortunately, Tanto was unscathed (not a man to bump into) and although Macca was unable to insert the ball into the top corner against the midget in goal, it mattered not.
Not our best performance by any means but Carey was excellent and Jones, Bell, Bree and Leaburn also did very well.
On to Ipswich, where I feel Leaburn and Tanto may start. We looked a little flat in midfield today but Carey is undroppable and Jones understandably trusts the Coventry/Doc combination in the centre that has generally served us so well. Hopefully Anderson will be on the bench if we need to inject a bit of energy and pace.
15 points from 10 games is a fine return - happy days.
It is extraordinarily strange to me that people cannot accept the evidence of their own eyes to see how much pressure we have been under when those two are up front.
Having said that, and having heard NJ say he will rotate, we may start with those two, but only because Hull is a more winnable game and Ipswich is a bit of a right off, or 'free hit' as the saying goes.6 -
Leaburn offering very little which makes it puzzling why he always first change … Two of our promising youngsters Campbell and Leaburn have failed to impress in the championship and that’s got to be a major worry to NJSouthbank said:
If Leaburn and Tanto start on Tuesday I can guarantee we will be pinned in our own penalty area from the first minute.Blucher said:Well, we certainly made hard work of that. Having been beautifully placed at half-time, we contrived to almost squander a comfortable 2-0 lead. Ultimately, though, it’s another 3 precious points to keep us in the calm waters of mid-table - 15 down, 45 to go.
We were hardly fluent in the first half but created a number of openings against a very shaky Wednesday defence, with Sonny Carey’s desire to shoot on sight and then follow up giving us an early lead. Bree’s excellent free-kick laid on the second for Burke just before half time and we went in feeling uncharacteristically comfortable.
Wednesday continued to look vulnerable throughout the second half but managed to achieve a measure of control in midfield and push us deep. Our ‘press’ seemed to fall apart and Wednesday found a lot of space in midfield to work the ball to within 30 yards of our goal. Very uncharacteristic of a Charlton side under Nathan. Their goal when it came was deserved and no surprise and, duly encouraged, Wednesday pressed forward for an equaliser. They missed one decent opportunity with a header squirting wide, while we broke on them on several occasions but a lack of quality in the final ball let us down.
In the end, we saw the game out reasonably well, while also being treated to Wednesday’s keeper reprising Schumacher’s 1982 assault on Patrick Battiston. To the amazement of everyone in the ground, the ref waved play on until his Lino set him straight. Fortunately, Tanto was unscathed (not a man to bump into) and although Macca was unable to insert the ball into the top corner against the midget in goal, it mattered not.
Not our best performance by any means but Carey was excellent and Jones, Bell, Bree and Leaburn also did very well.
On to Ipswich, where I feel Leaburn and Tanto may start. We looked a little flat in midfield today but Carey is undroppable and Jones understandably trusts the Coventry/Doc combination in the centre that has generally served us so well. Hopefully Anderson will be on the bench if we need to inject a bit of energy and pace.
15 points from 10 games is a fine return - happy days.
It is extraordinarily strange to me that people cannot accept the evidence of their own eyes to see how much pressure we have been under when those two are up front.
Having said that, and having heard NJ say he will rotate, we may start with those two, but only because Hull is a more winnable game and Ipswich is a bit of a right off, or 'free hit' as the saying goes.14 -
Should be 'write off' , damn predictive text.ShootersHillGuru said:
Of the three teams Charlton are higher placed than both Hull and Ipswich. Not much between any of them. Not sure why you’d think Ipswich is a “right off” or Hull is more winnable. Hard to predict either fixture in my humble opinion.Southbank said:
If Leaburn and Tanto start on Tuesday I can guarantee we will be pinned in our own penalty area from the first minute.Blucher said:Well, we certainly made hard work of that. Having been beautifully placed at half-time, we contrived to almost squander a comfortable 2-0 lead. Ultimately, though, it’s another 3 precious points to keep us in the calm waters of mid-table - 15 down, 45 to go.
We were hardly fluent in the first half but created a number of openings against a very shaky Wednesday defence, with Sonny Carey’s desire to shoot on sight and then follow up giving us an early lead. Bree’s excellent free-kick laid on the second for Burke just before half time and we went in feeling uncharacteristically comfortable.
Wednesday continued to look vulnerable throughout the second half but managed to achieve a measure of control in midfield and push us deep. Our ‘press’ seemed to fall apart and Wednesday found a lot of space in midfield to work the ball to within 30 yards of our goal. Very uncharacteristic of a Charlton side under Nathan. Their goal when it came was deserved and no surprise and, duly encouraged, Wednesday pressed forward for an equaliser. They missed one decent opportunity with a header squirting wide, while we broke on them on several occasions but a lack of quality in the final ball let us down.
In the end, we saw the game out reasonably well, while also being treated to Wednesday’s keeper reprising Schumacher’s 1982 assault on Patrick Battiston. To the amazement of everyone in the ground, the ref waved play on until his Lino set him straight. Fortunately, Tanto was unscathed (not a man to bump into) and although Macca was unable to insert the ball into the top corner against the midget in goal, it mattered not.
Not our best performance by any means but Carey was excellent and Jones, Bell, Bree and Leaburn also did very well.
On to Ipswich, where I feel Leaburn and Tanto may start. We looked a little flat in midfield today but Carey is undroppable and Jones understandably trusts the Coventry/Doc combination in the centre that has generally served us so well. Hopefully Anderson will be on the bench if we need to inject a bit of energy and pace.
15 points from 10 games is a fine return - happy days.
It is extraordinarily strange to me that people cannot accept the evidence of their own eyes to see how much pressure we have been under when those two are up front.
Having said that, and having heard NJ say he will rotate, we may start with those two, but only because Hull is a more winnable game and Ipswich is a bit of a right off, or 'free hit' as the saying goes.
Mainly because we do not have the squad to perform for 3 games in a week, and Ipswich have some very dangerous players. If I were NJ I would expect Tuesday to be harder than next Saturday.
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After he'd almost decapitated Tanto...the ref and keeper need pulling over the coals for that whole episode.Leuth said:
He did touch it actually!charltonbob said:
What the hell was he thinking ? It was a fair challenge ? he won the ball cleanly ? (he didn't touch it). He waved play on, he shouldn't be allowed to referee ever again.killerandflash said:At HT I didn't think we were playing that well, and thought Wednesday posed an attacking threat to our slightly shaky defence, so not a massive surprise they scored in the second half.
Unfair to blame the introduction of Tanto and Miles for that, as Wednesday had a lot of the ball before the changes. I worry about the minutes Coventry and Doc are playing, while Burke and Bree faded before they were taken off. Carey was excellent, but in that attacking presser role, he seems to fade after an hour too.
Jones was a rock as always, I doubt there's a better CB in the air in the division.
I'm not one to moan about refs, but that incident at the end was ludicrous. The most obvious red card ever, yet without the assistant he wouldn't have given it.
With his hand. Outside the box.4 -
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Not playing our best game, winning, ninth in the Championship... I gratefully take all that!
10 games in, we have the points total we deserve.
We've gone from becoming stronger in the last 30 minutes to becoming weaker, hopefully this just a bad spell. Sheff Wed played some good stuff during this time, and had some momentum.
The ref missing that foul on Olaofe must be worst not giving of a free kick I can recall at The Valley. The crowd reaction must have told him he'd dropped an absolute clanger, and the officials did eventually arrive at the correct decision. So some credit due for pulling the game back and redeeming the situation, it's not often a ref admits to a mistake, or checks with other officials, so long after playing on. That was a red on possibly 3 counts - stopping a goalscoring opportunity, the assault, and possibly deliberate handball (I can't quite tell from the replays if he saved it before the collision) - be interesting to see what it was ultimately given for.
Sheff Wed had a number of good periods of possession throughout the game, at times passing the ball through us without too much trouble. Somehow we'll need to tighten things up against Ipswich.
Any win in this division is priceless, so a good day.5 -
PWR
After a bright first half, we went into the break looking relatively comfortable, and should have maybe been an even bigger margin.
We came back out looking very complacent and nonchalant, making silly errors all over the pitch. You could sense them scoring.....and they did just that. From that moment, their tails were up and their fans started to get behind the team (I'm sure, up until their goal, their fans seemed to forget there was a match being played, just soley focussing on their bumble-bee protest). We lost all discipline and shape, reverting to blind panic. I feared the worst, but fortunately, we hung on.
3 points against 12 men must be looked upon as a positive, I suppose.
One of the reasons I couldn't wait for us to get out of L1 was because of how bad the referee's were at that level, but I've yet to see any improvement so far, and this clown took it to a whole new level. It was almost like the wendy players were coaching him throughout the match, telling him what was, and wasn't a foul. As for the assault on Tanto, then to wave play on, borders on plain & simple cheating, as it was the most obvious foul I've seen for the last few decades. His refereeing career has probably been saved by the lino digging him out of a massive hole. Go over your local rec on Sunday morning and you'll see much more competent refereeing from "Fat Eric".
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I thought after a commanding first half, we came out sloppy and over confident second half and paid the price. Once our foot was off the accelerator, we could never get going again.
After the sending off, what the hell was that free kick, a sub keeper who was about 2 foot tall and we can't hit the target. Crazy.2 -
i'll also say, I think NJ has made his point to Ramsay now.. lets get him back in the 11 please10
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I’m not sure that counts as an assist . It’s was Carey’s own shot that was parried and he followed it up .altrinchamaddick said:
You mean the Campbell who had an assist for Carey's goal?Covered_End_Lad said:Hope we get to see tanto or Leaburn start with Kelman soon, Campbell needs a rest2 -
Sadly it won’t but he really made that goalBedsaddick said:
I’m not sure that counts as an assist . It’s was Carey’s own shot that was parried and he followed it up .altrinchamaddick said:
You mean the Campbell who had an assist for Carey's goal?Covered_End_Lad said:Hope we get to see tanto or Leaburn start with Kelman soon, Campbell needs a rest9 -
Almost an assault ? He should be arrested for thatFortune 82nd Minute said:
Eff me. The more you see that, the more you realise just what an incredibly dangerous challenge that was. Indeed, it is almost verging on assault.guinnessaddick said:
The keeper should have the book thrown at him for that.0 -
Ref was an absolute wanker and should be reported.
however we were lucky in the second half and respectfully to all Charlton Fans we still need a Proper Striker !!!!2 -
3 points in the bag wallop , not the greatest performance against a team League One bound but all about the points .
Reece Burke got motm in the lounge and I asked him what hair products he used, for those of you interested I think he said Honey baby gel and dr bee hair spray 🤷♂️13 -
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11.15pm home from a home game 🙈
Team win, ground great, Oak great, company amazing, mountain of fried chicken great…
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Unbelievable support , so loud and even started singing super loudly after we scored !!
Whatever anyones 🥩 is with them that support was MAAAAASIVE , all things considered best away support at
The Valley in eons
the sort of support I dream about , Just mental.14 -
Great to see you!AFKABartram said:11.15pm home from a home game 🙈
Team win, ground great, Oak great, company amazing, mountain of fried chicken great…
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Excellent stuff Sir!LoOkOuT said:Then, on 35 minutes, I caught Barry Bannon battling male pattern baldness and losing.
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When Kelman and Campbell were on the pitch we were in complete control, it all went wrong after we made the subs.blackpool72 said:Was at the game and we got away with it there.
How many more times are we going to start with Kelman and Campbell, they do not compliment one another at all.
Start Kelman with Tanto and bring on Leaburn and Campbell later as they showed they could play together last season.
Other than that I thought the ref was a total disgrace and I try not to slag of refs but he was useless.
Can't stand Bannan or Wednesday so I'll be more than happy to see them in league one for the foreseeable.
On to Tuesday and hopefully get a result
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This is where I am at with it, once we go behind I do not think we are able to get back into the game so easily.ShootersHillGuru said:Every win is three points towards safety. That’s massive as far as I’m concerned. Second half a lesson in just how hard this league can be. We’re definitely competitive though and if I were a betting man I’d say we have enough to stay up but a couple of bad results and we’d be looking over our shoulders. I’m definitely starting to become very concerned about our forward line. Big problems there. I’m not having it that it doesn’t matter who scores the goals. Forwards need to chip in with their share. At present Leaburn, Campbell and Kelman are probably the least effective front trio in the league. I hope January brings some money with it because unless we start getting our forwards firing we’re going to make things much more difficult than they might otherwise be.
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Not going to be easy, when his competition for the starting eleven got on the scoresheet todayManic_mania said:i'll also say, I think NJ has made his point to Ramsay now.. lets get him back in the 11 please2 -
Anyone else completely forget about what league and who the fuck poxy Wrexham are till the weekly bitch about them after each match .It’s weirding me out the obsession some of our fans have with them5
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That's not right.Themightyath2 said:
When Kelman and Campbell were on the pitch we were in complete control, it all went wrong after we made the subs.blackpool72 said:Was at the game and we got away with it there.
How many more times are we going to start with Kelman and Campbell, they do not compliment one another at all.
Start Kelman with Tanto and bring on Leaburn and Campbell later as they showed they could play together last season.
Other than that I thought the ref was a total disgrace and I try not to slag of refs but he was useless.
Can't stand Bannan or Wednesday so I'll be more than happy to see them in league one for the foreseeable.
On to Tuesday and hopefully get a result
Keep the faith
Sheffield Wednesday started the second half strongly and were the dominant team before the subs were made.9 -
Did anyone get a clear look at or seen footage of the foul on Knibbs, or possible dive from Knibbs?0
