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POST-MATCH THREAD: Blackburn Rovers v Charlton Athletic: Sunday 4th January 2026: KO 15:00
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Not sure we need to theorise... We're in a bad spell because of the problems down our left side. Don't think it's much deeper than that.CharltonManor1966 said:One further point about NJ (and I really am a fan of his for what he has done for the club) so just an observation......
Some have commented here about how some players (Carey in particular) are making poor choices when going forward.
We all see what NJ is like on the touchline during games. He kicks every ball and tells players where to throw it in and is always directing things very forcefully and vocally.
I can only imagine what he is like on the training ground!
My theory is that our players may be over directed and managed and they live in fear of not doing what NJ has asked of them even if it has gone well occasionally.
So the result can often be a safe pass rather than a more adventurous one, a backwards pass rather than a forwards pass. In general their confidence is shot and they live in fear of making a mistake.
Maybe NJ's great strength of being absolutely in charge and directorial in approach and his insistance on a system, is also his weakness in that some players are over managed to the point of being scared of taking risks.
OK end of theory. I am sure I will get pelters for daring to say anything about NJ but hey-ho.........
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Genuinely yes imo. Well, not shit hot maybe! But the difference between us with our top end back line and without is massive, as shown pretty clearly today.DamoNorthStand said:
Only two of that eleven you named weren’t available today and we drew 2-2 to one of the worst teams in the leagueNabySarr said:It might not look it watching that second half, but I think we are quite close to being good again. Just think in a few weeks time we could be lining up with something like
Kaminski
Ramsay Jones Bell
Bree Costello Coventry NEW
Carey
Leaburn Kelman
With TC, Godden and a new striker to come on from the bench, plus any other new signings we make that could strengthen the starting eleven.We are not a good team at the moment because we have some glaring holes in our backline due to missing personnel. The players we do have are then having to play every minute because we have no one else, which then affects their performance late in games. Once this settles down we will be fine
Last season was similar, and I think it might be a Jones thing due to the intensity we play at and smaller squad depth. We struggle when there are lots of games in a short period, we’ve been poor in most of the later games in 3-game weeks. Last season we were very good in the second half of the season, the second half of the season has less midweek games, more recovery time and less need for rotation. We just need to do the right recruitment so that Jones can land on a settled team for February-May and then we will be absolutely fine like we were last season
Is a left back and Ramsay coming back really going to be the difference between shit and shit hot?
No defensively sound LWB has completely destroyed our tactical set up - the whole team is designed to play with a move to a back four in attack and a marauder (previously Small, now Apter) down the right2 -
I’ve had more fun times watching Charlton… on holiday & ended up in Linkears Bar, to see the match…walking through the hotel to Linekars with “Follow the leader” playing loudly with 3 very energetic staff geeing on the pool aqua arocobats - with oops and screams set the tone for 2 hrs in Wayne' World Linekar bar with 9 screens simultaneously showing different matches, with competing Geordies, Scousers & Yorkshire fans yelling their support for their respective teams.The Barman put on Blackburn V Charlton on one screen, and I listen to Charlton TV with my mobile pressed to my ear to hear the commentary, which lagged in and out sometimes 15secs behind the TV. Sat on a table with an affable but irritating Geordie with his toon shirt & baseball cap swung back to front like a character from the Beano - who spent the whole Newcastle game "way haying" with a German Lady on the next table screaming in my other ear as she watched the Liverpool match.Since the islands mantra is “NO STRESS” I tried to zone out the 8 other matches and focus on the Addicks,….so 2-2 …yes disappointing, but only as we throw away a 2 goal lead. I was hoping for a draw before the match, so I’m happy and it represents 4 pts taken from Blackburn, and positively we sit 5 pts above the bottom 3 with a game in hand with the Jan transfer window awaiting.Chelsea offers us all now a brief respite from the championship, it’s a free hit. I’m looking forward far more to going to our away fixture at The Den, I have no idea why but this year feels like we may finally slay the Lions.life back in Championship is tough but it’s also so much more fun than the 9 seasons spent in League one in the last decade. 21 games to go time to buckle up, we’re in for a rollercoaster ride…COYA4
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did they have us down to win at Ipswich or Sheffield Utd?DamoNorthStand said:Oh god - what have i started? I think this all started when I said Pompey was must win. Wish I hadn’t said anything now!
There is definitely some over analysing of the word must.I know for a fact the management have a graph across the season as the second half unwinds and it will have targets for points per game and final total to stay up.
There is no way we had one point against the last three games. Oxford we would have been par, and now for every point dropped we are dropping further below par.
The question should really be where do people want to aim to get 4-6 points back? For me, and like @Braziliance says prevention is better than cure, i would rather not be chasing points from Millwall away, Boro away etc. But we will now likely have to do that to stay on par.
Had we have nicked an unexpected win vs Cov then this may have switched to a point.
As it is I set high targets (across my whole life - work life, home life and football life). We had to win that in order to avoid a potential problem down the line and we didn’tNo - and that’s a good point.
So we are in agreement that we will likely need to win at Southampton, Leicester or Boro now.
We might pull one out the bag.
I would rather not have to rely on it, but the last thee games have been a disaster.
The question for all of us is are we confident of going to the above and grabbing 3 points?0 -
So, if I have this right, the only time we will have a must win game this season is if we need to go to Swansea last game of the season and win otherwise we are down? Rightho. If that happens and we get relegated I trust no one will say ‘if only we’d won at Blackburn’.2
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PWR
3.5hrs drive up there and 3.5hrs drive back .
arrived in to a blizzard and told petrol head if this is called off i’d kill him .
2 shit teams produced some dross and a point each was fair , I even said at 0-2 up take a point , we’re just defensively pony now .
Sparse away following on a cold day , just the hardcore freaks there .
I mean one lunatic was slagging off Leaburn at the end as if he’d scored 3 own goals … weirdo
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You'd have 17 other games to also complain about as it stands.LargeAddick said:So, if I have this right, the only time we will have a must win game this season is if we need to go to Swansea last game of the season and win otherwise we are down? Rightho. If that happens and we get relegated I trust no one will say ‘if only we’d won at Blackburn’.0 -
My fkn gaffer.robinofottershaw said:I really wish NJ hadn’t said this!
“We’re disappointed. This is Blackburn Rovers, they’ve been a Championship side for a long time and we’re coming here and we’re devastated with a point, so it shows we’ve come a long way.”
And so we should be devastated Jones mate, their fans didn't expect a win at all.0 -
Well look at our season so far, when we had a left back we were shit hot, as soon as we didn't have one we were shit. So yes basicallyDamoNorthStand said:
Only two of that eleven you named weren’t available today and we drew 2-2 to one of the worst teams in the leagueNabySarr said:It might not look it watching that second half, but I think we are quite close to being good again. Just think in a few weeks time we could be lining up with something like
Kaminski
Ramsay Jones Bell
Bree Costello Coventry NEW
Carey
Leaburn Kelman
With TC, Godden and a new striker to come on from the bench, plus any other new signings we make that could strengthen the starting eleven.We are not a good team at the moment because we have some glaring holes in our backline due to missing personnel. The players we do have are then having to play every minute because we have no one else, which then affects their performance late in games. Once this settles down we will be fine
Last season was similar, and I think it might be a Jones thing due to the intensity we play at and smaller squad depth. We struggle when there are lots of games in a short period, we’ve been poor in most of the later games in 3-game weeks. Last season we were very good in the second half of the season, the second half of the season has less midweek games, more recovery time and less need for rotation. We just need to do the right recruitment so that Jones can land on a settled team for February-May and then we will be absolutely fine like we were last season
Is a left back and Ramsay coming back really going to be the difference between shit and shit hot?
Last season we were better from February-May than we were earlier in the season, we played better football and everything clicked. I think the same can happen again, with a proper LWB we were good at the start of the season, but if you added the fit Costello we are seeing now to that midfield and the Kelman and Leaburn we are seeing now up top then that could take that team to another level3 -
We have some really good players and I believe a team strong enough to compete at Championship level.....but, we only have a first 11. What we don't have is a strong 2nd 11, hence when someone is injured or needs a rest, the replacement coming in/on usually weakens the team, and the performance is diminished instead of enhanced. Our weakness is being newly promoted, and having a starting point of a weaker mostly league one standard squad. Sure some other teams have injuries but, they have bigger higher quality squads, hence the replacement players are generally of higher quality than our replacements.
We desperately need to stay in this league so we can build long term and establish ourselves as a Championship club. If we can't, we'll risk ending up being a yo-yo club.
Today was NOT a must win game, but it was a must not lose game. Keeping Blackburn behind us, even for today, was the objective. If we keep 3 clubs behind us come May, it'll be fine.9 -
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The difference between conceding twice and not, certainly.DamoNorthStand said:
Only two of that eleven you named weren’t available today and we drew 2-2 to one of the worst teams in the leagueNabySarr said:It might not look it watching that second half, but I think we are quite close to being good again. Just think in a few weeks time we could be lining up with something like
Kaminski
Ramsay Jones Bell
Bree Costello Coventry NEW
Carey
Leaburn Kelman
With TC, Godden and a new striker to come on from the bench, plus any other new signings we make that could strengthen the starting eleven.We are not a good team at the moment because we have some glaring holes in our backline due to missing personnel. The players we do have are then having to play every minute because we have no one else, which then affects their performance late in games. Once this settles down we will be fine
Last season was similar, and I think it might be a Jones thing due to the intensity we play at and smaller squad depth. We struggle when there are lots of games in a short period, we’ve been poor in most of the later games in 3-game weeks. Last season we were very good in the second half of the season, the second half of the season has less midweek games, more recovery time and less need for rotation. We just need to do the right recruitment so that Jones can land on a settled team for February-May and then we will be absolutely fine like we were last season
Is a left back and Ramsay coming back really going to be the difference between shit and shit hot?5 -
But also "... a point is a point, it's on the road, it's important not to lose..."Braziliance said:
My fkn gaffer.robinofottershaw said:I really wish NJ hadn’t said this!
“We’re disappointed. This is Blackburn Rovers, they’ve been a Championship side for a long time and we’re coming here and we’re devastated with a point, so it shows we’ve come a long way.”
And so we should be devastated Jones mate, their fans didn't expect a win at all.1 -
Too late.Talal said:
IF we were to stay up, would you concede that they weren't must win games?Braziliance said:
If Man City play Arsenal 23 games in, or Real Madrid play Barca 23 games in etc, and they're both in a title race, they are must win games, as the assumption is, both teams in the title race, are too good to drop points against lesser teams.Callumcafc said:
The idea of a MUST WIN game is that you MUST WIN that game. You aren’t considering context of other games later in the season.Braziliance said:
Where do you think we will be if we go another 10 games with 1 win?Callumcafc said:
Brother, for the last time - these are not the same thing!!!Braziliance said:Charlton43 said:Think most would’ve taken a point before the game.If we can get a win against either Sheffield or Derby doesn’t look like a bad block of 4 games points wise.Love Macca for the play off final but he’s got to go now. Same as Bez and Doc, we need proper championship quality.
I genuinely reckon, I spoke to 50 Charlton fans today at the game, maybe more, not one of them said they'd be happy with a point, and most said it was a must win (35+ maybe) and the rest a not lose.
My poll on twitter with over 150 votes returned it as a 76% must win/6 pointer.
I think it's insanity to be happy with/ taken draw in the circumstances, especially with how it happened being 2 up.
Anyway, on to the next free hit/must win/ must not lose/ doesn't matter that much as we are 4-7 points safe / we are lucky to be here so enjoy the moment.
“Must win” implies some sort of dire consequence as a result of not achieving said win.What was the dire consequence of today’s result? As far as I can tell, we are further away from the drop than we were before the day started.
The dire consequence is, if we now lose the games against the bigger budgets in this season, which we did when we lost to Wrexham, Saints, Stoke, Coventry, Boro, and then still don't pick up the points against the teams around us, we are down.
Prevention is better than cure. We only don't look that bad today, because Norwich lost, Pompey & Oxford were postponed. Pompey could have been 1 behind us today.
We cannot keep relying on other teams being s**t, we need to win games of football, so how are the favourable fixtures not must wins?
You are taking it far too literal. You must realise the idea of projections, expectations etc and that I know we aren't relegated tonight?
Anyway, dreadful second half. Just Sheffield United, Derby and Millwall up next. Sure we will pick up 9 points to make up for it.
I can’t tell if this is trolling on your part, or maybe it’s just another example of how words like literally are no longer used in a literal sense.
It was literally a must win game.
You apply that exact same logic here. On paper, right now, and our form, suggests, we cannot beat the teams with bigger budgets, so we need to pick points up in these games, to avoid the drop, because chances are, there are a multiple number of games where we can probably expect 0 points.
All there is to it.
All good though, win 1 in 10 again, and say none of them are must wins again, sure the table will look dandy.
We failed to win 3 must win games, so we must already have been relegated. End of.6 -
Playing the magnitude of the game down, quite sensible.aliwibble said:
But also "... a point is a point, it's on the road, it's important not to lose..."Braziliance said:
My fkn gaffer.robinofottershaw said:I really wish NJ hadn’t said this!
“We’re disappointed. This is Blackburn Rovers, they’ve been a Championship side for a long time and we’re coming here and we’re devastated with a point, so it shows we’ve come a long way.”
And so we should be devastated Jones mate, their fans didn't expect a win at all.
That's why he put his arms up at the end at us as if to say "what the f**k" he knows how honking this was.
No one knows more than Nathan Jones how important these games have been, and to get 4 out of a possible 12, when we only managed 2 points out of a possible 21 from the other 7 games either side of the relegation 6 pointers, was a bloody disaster.
Fortunately the other teams below us are so horrendous, we have got away with it, for now.2 -
Who was man of the match Kelman , Leaburn or the ref ?0
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Leaburn, however in all fairness we wouldn't even have that point if it wasn't for the ref!oohaahmortimer said:Who was man of the match Kelman , Leaburn or the ref ?2 -
It has been open for ages. All the bargains have already gone. Just a few Ledleys and Penneys left. You snooze, you lose!flyingkiwiDK said:When does the transfer window open? Can’t come soon enough after today’s shambolic 2nd half performance!0 -
I always get confused with long words like promotion and relegation.eastterrace6168 said:wolfgang said:Two points thrown away (and a point gifted to a promotion rival) because of N Jones' bungling and favouritism.
Yes, I know he did great last season in League One. But that was because he is a League One manager. He does not have the sophistication for the Championship. His only strategy is to drag teams down to our level. It worked quite well for a bit until managers got wise to it.
So we're on a promotion push are we, a promotion rival!!...🤷♂️1 -
You cannot have a good rant these days without someone nitpicking details or fact-checking. I can see why poor President Trump gets pissed off.DOUCHER said:
didn't NJ get Luton into the championship play offs?wolfgang said:Two points thrown away (and a point gifted to a promotion rival) because of N Jones' bungling and favouritism.
Yes, I know he did great last season in League One. But that was because he is a League One manager. He does not have the sophistication for the Championship. His only strategy is to drag teams down to our level. It worked quite well for a bit until managers got wise to it.10 -
You’re comparing a top of the table chase to a bottom of the table dog fight. It’s not equivalent.Braziliance said:
If Man City play Arsenal 23 games in, or Real Madrid play Barca 23 games in etc, and they're both in a title race, they are must win games, as the assumption is, both teams in the title race, are too good to drop points against lesser teams.Callumcafc said:
The idea of a MUST WIN game is that you MUST WIN that game. You aren’t considering context of other games later in the season.Braziliance said:
Where do you think we will be if we go another 10 games with 1 win?Callumcafc said:
Brother, for the last time - these are not the same thing!!!Braziliance said:Charlton43 said:Think most would’ve taken a point before the game.If we can get a win against either Sheffield or Derby doesn’t look like a bad block of 4 games points wise.Love Macca for the play off final but he’s got to go now. Same as Bez and Doc, we need proper championship quality.
I genuinely reckon, I spoke to 50 Charlton fans today at the game, maybe more, not one of them said they'd be happy with a point, and most said it was a must win (35+ maybe) and the rest a not lose.
My poll on twitter with over 150 votes returned it as a 76% must win/6 pointer.
I think it's insanity to be happy with/ taken draw in the circumstances, especially with how it happened being 2 up.
Anyway, on to the next free hit/must win/ must not lose/ doesn't matter that much as we are 4-7 points safe / we are lucky to be here so enjoy the moment.
“Must win” implies some sort of dire consequence as a result of not achieving said win.What was the dire consequence of today’s result? As far as I can tell, we are further away from the drop than we were before the day started.
The dire consequence is, if we now lose the games against the bigger budgets in this season, which we did when we lost to Wrexham, Saints, Stoke, Coventry, Boro, and then still don't pick up the points against the teams around us, we are down.
Prevention is better than cure. We only don't look that bad today, because Norwich lost, Pompey & Oxford were postponed. Pompey could have been 1 behind us today.
We cannot keep relying on other teams being s**t, we need to win games of football, so how are the favourable fixtures not must wins?
You are taking it far too literal. You must realise the idea of projections, expectations etc and that I know we aren't relegated tonight?
Anyway, dreadful second half. Just Sheffield United, Derby and Millwall up next. Sure we will pick up 9 points to make up for it.
I can’t tell if this is trolling on your part, or maybe it’s just another example of how words like literally are no longer used in a literal sense.
It was literally a must win game.
You apply that exact same logic here. On paper, right now, and our form, suggests, we cannot beat the teams with bigger budgets, so we need to pick points up in these games, to avoid the drop, because chances are, there are a multiple number of games where we can probably expect 0 points.
All there is to it.
All good though, win 1 in 10 again, and say none of them are must wins again, sure the table will look dandy.At the top you have to keep winning to keep up the pace. At the bottom a point per game generally keeps you in the race, which is exactly what we’ve achieved the last few weeks.
We’ve won 1 in 10. Blackburn have won 1 in 10. Oxford have won 2 in 13.None of these teams are racing past us. No individual game is a must win when you want to avoid getting relegated. Because you only need to win about 3 in 10, against whoever you can get them, to be safe.9 -
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Banking on points from those games is obviously stupid. But we’ve already beaten Ipswich (3rd), Watford (6th). That’s points we didn’t expect to win but we did.DamoNorthStand said:Oh god - what have i started? I think this all started when I said Pompey was must win. Wish I hadn’t said anything now!
There is definitely some over analysing of the word must.I know for a fact the management have a graph across the season as the second half unwinds and it will have targets for points per game and final total to stay up.
There is no way we had one point against the last three games. Oxford we would have been par, and now for every point dropped we are dropping further below par.
The question should really be where do people want to aim to get 4-6 points back? For me, and like @Braziliance says prevention is better than cure, i would rather not be chasing points from Millwall away, Boro away etc. But we will now likely have to do that to stay on par.
Had we have nicked an unexpected win vs Cov then this may have switched to a point.
As it is I set high targets (across my whole life - work life, home life and football life). We had to win that in order to avoid a potential problem down the line and we didn’t
I can’t tell you when the next unexpected win will come but I bet there’s at least two or three more of them between now and May. It might be at Millwall (5th), it might be at home to Stoke (8th), it might be at Middlesbrough (2nd), it might be at home to Preston (4th). No one knows, but they will come.
Treating any game against a team not in the bottom eight as a loss before a ball has been kicked while calling games against those around us as must wins is a weird way to approach a relegation fight. And not at all how football works in the real world.5 -
One win from the last 11 league games (6 points out of a possible 33) and a 2 goal lead gone in the bin for the first time since last February at Blackpool.
A point would have been the minimum required yesterday but when you are 2 up it’s sickening to turn that into a draw.
Burke’s 3rd injury this season and whilst he’s a quality player at this level, he’s no good to you if he’s spending the bulk of his time on the treatment table.
2 home league games up next and a minimum of 4 points required in those before 2 away games at the end of the month.
Quality required into this squad and can’t afford to wait for the Premier League and TV Money this summer to go again as there is no guarantee we will stay up this season.5 -
Shite performance for the most part, we lack quality as we all know but somehow found ourselves 2-0 away at a relegation rival and then found new ways to disappoint (or not in reality this is us) and concede 2 and throw away a great and much needed win (or not, apparently the "rules" around whats considered a needed win have changed in football these days)
Whether you want to continue portraying the need to be seen as the most positive Charlton supporter, and ergo, the bestest supporter cuz only proper charlton stay positive, throwing away a 2 goal lead when desperate for points is an utter disgrace really, especially against a side that looks no better than ourselves and will, like us be looking over their shoulder, maybe I'm old fashioned but I always thought it best to beat the teams around you in a relegation fight, but hey, who wants easy points, plenty more up for grabs.
Been said but the Gillesphey change does us in, leaves us with too much to do at the back in terms of covering, TC cant cover GIllesphey as hes no LWB, Gillesphey cant cover for TC as hes not up to the standard, Bell playing over on the right with his left foot and Jones is stuck in the middle of all of this like a firefighter in a burning building armed with a water pistol.
JRC faded, understandable given lack of game time and the minutes hes played recently.
Kelman showing his quality and adding 2 more to his goal tally taking him 1 behind Kone.
Leaburn continues to grow into the targetman role, really good showing from him.
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The cup game against Chelsea according to you!golfaddick said:
When is a game a must win one then ? Let me know & I'll do my best to be there.DOUCHER said:A must not lose that we didn't lose - as others have said, there are no easy games and away from home, if you are expecting to win you are likely going to be disappointed and some on here need to take a look at themselves - again. They gave their all as always - my only complaint is the 10 man thing - totally unnecessary. We will be okay.2 -
You can have a good rant anytime Wolfgang, its the nature of being a football fan, as for nitpicking, it stops us ranting, all things in moderation.wolfgang said:
You cannot have a good rant these days without someone nitpicking details or fact-checking. I can see why poor President Trump gets pissed off.DOUCHER said:
didn't NJ get Luton into the championship play offs?wolfgang said:Two points thrown away (and a point gifted to a promotion rival) because of N Jones' bungling and favouritism.
Yes, I know he did great last season in League One. But that was because he is a League One manager. He does not have the sophistication for the Championship. His only strategy is to drag teams down to our level. It worked quite well for a bit until managers got wise to it.1 -
My, my, my...Is this a collective for manic depressives? It appears so. I simply do not buy into this notion that we will be relegated. As I have said in earlier posts I have seen 6 relegation sides over the decades. They all had a long term kiss of death about them. You could see months in advance that they were imploding (they lacked fight, skill, consistently made laughable mistakes and were generally devoid of any shape or energy and were mentally weak - and that sometimes included the management) and that there was little prospect that they would survive. I'll say what I have stated previously - this side doesn't come close to being a relegation candidate. I fully expect us to be safe with games to spare. And for those calling for NJ's head they are probably the same people who repeatedly called for Curbishley's head when we were in the Premiership, saying he was not capable of taking us to the next level. I know he left of his own accord, but that turned out well, didn't it?9
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Well in all honesty, no game is a must win. What we have to do is rebuild lost confidence. It feels we are a decent way on that path though clearly not there yet. I think the second half yesterday was a bit like the Norwich game. We have to be a bit more offensive minded or we allow teams to come on to us. I don't think we play that way at home as the fans won't accept it unless we are playing a top side. What killed us yesterday was their first. They were there for the taking and we didn't take them. We also have to accept that we are a young side and we are learning a new division. I don't understand all of his decisions but I trust Jones as he has shown me that he deserves that trust. I didn't trust him when we lost to Stevenage last season but a lot of water has passed under the bridge since and we have to support the team, that is our job, and let him and his staff do the rest. It still feels to me that the final destination will be a positive one as long as everybody keeps their heads.
A special mention to Miles. I have seen him sharp and what we are seeing is that aspect of his game has taken a bit of a battering but he is clearly becoming a force at this level and the goals are going to come. I would say he was unplayable yesterday and we have to learn to make the most of that when he is. He is making strides and we have to ensure that continues. Some people laugh at me when I say he can be a Premier League striker, but whilst it isn't a definite I still belive very much that he can. I hope the club are working with him very closely to help him get there.8 -
I struggle with their, there and they’re!!wolfgang said:
I always get confused with long words like promotion and relegation.eastterrace6168 said:wolfgang said:Two points thrown away (and a point gifted to a promotion rival) because of N Jones' bungling and favouritism.
Yes, I know he did great last season in League One. But that was because he is a League One manager. He does not have the sophistication for the Championship. His only strategy is to drag teams down to our level. It worked quite well for a bit until managers got wise to it.
So we're on a promotion push are we, a promotion rival!!...🤷♂️2 -
One win in 11 is relegation form particularly taking into account our recent fixtures. It's only our decent early start to the season that's keeping us afloat.
Injuries are a problem but we're not alone in that and it is a concern how injury prone some of our players are. If we do manage to stay up there will need to be big changes to prevent a repeat next season.
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As brilliant as he was in those last couple this was a game too far and he was a passengerEr_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch said:I didn't watch the match. For those who did - for the hour Costello played did he offer glimpses of what we saw against Coventry? Not wanting to dig him out, I don't know how he played, just curious how he did. Apologies if already mentioned on here.0
