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POST-MATCH THREAD: Blackburn Rovers v Charlton Athletic: Sunday 4th January 2026: KO 15:00
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The important thing in life is to keep calm don’t go over the top with success or failure, this maybe a boring mantra but useful in dealing with what life throws at us all through our personal and professional life’s.
Charlton has been so central to my life, and all lifers, we have all been on one helluva rollercoaster with leaving valley, 7 lost years & returning, Roland Ratty, useless owners, some terrible managers but also some wonderful successes …Curbs, SCP, Bows etc & remember we are only club to won all 4 of their play off finals.Surely the best way to look at the current season is we have held our own in the Championship and turned over some of leading clubs in the division, the Valley has been a fortress & we sit 5pts clear of the relegation slots with a game in hand.Nathan is on a mission and patience is what is needed, our board need to do there bit and back him & get in several players & loanees. From the 1st kick of the season the aim was and is to get through this first season in championship and then build from there, we will lose some howlers and surprise some clubs but main thing is for us fans to stay calm, things of course could be better but also a lot worse…it’s exciting and damn sight better than Burton in League one…COYA’s16 -
Not true - we’ve added £12m of talent and will be adding some more this month plus, extending your logic, the fact we got promoted means we had an above league 1 level squad last year otherwise we would still be in league 1msomerton said:
Yes a surprise for us all, but we had a League 1 squad last season in league 1, this season we have a league 1 squad in the Championship, so a very different scenario.DOUCHER said:Have a look at the louis mendez graph this time last year and see what the projection was and how many must win games we had lost if we wanted to get promoted - loads - what happened? we got promoted. Football isn't an exact science. Teams go on runs, teams drop out of form, teams beat those their not expected to and lose to those they should beat. I'll take the fact we have half a season to go, a manager who is renowned for stronger second half's of seasons, the fact we have well over half of the points needed and more games at home than away to come, the fact players are coming back from injury, we have signings already done with more to come overseen by a manager who has a proven track record of knowing what is needed.Try to look at the bigger picture and stop looking at he graph from the last 10 games. I've seen many relegation set ups and this isn't one.2 -
Maximum respect to you and all those who go away every game - I get it and I agree you have a different perspective and I also understand about needing to win the six pointers but it still doesn’t make the Blackburn away game a must win gameBraziliance said:
It isn't equivalent, it is comparable, I am using it as an example so you can understand the importance of 6 pointers.Callumcafc said:
You’re comparing a top of the table chase to a bottom of the table dog fight. It’s not equivalent.Braziliance said:
If Man City play Arsenal 23 games in, or Real Madrid play Barca 23 games in etc, and they're both in a title race, they are must win games, as the assumption is, both teams in the title race, are too good to drop points against lesser teams.Callumcafc said:
The idea of a MUST WIN game is that you MUST WIN that game. You aren’t considering context of other games later in the season.Braziliance said:
Where do you think we will be if we go another 10 games with 1 win?Callumcafc said:
Brother, for the last time - these are not the same thing!!!Braziliance said:Charlton43 said:Think most would’ve taken a point before the game.If we can get a win against either Sheffield or Derby doesn’t look like a bad block of 4 games points wise.Love Macca for the play off final but he’s got to go now. Same as Bez and Doc, we need proper championship quality.
I genuinely reckon, I spoke to 50 Charlton fans today at the game, maybe more, not one of them said they'd be happy with a point, and most said it was a must win (35+ maybe) and the rest a not lose.
My poll on twitter with over 150 votes returned it as a 76% must win/6 pointer.
I think it's insanity to be happy with/ taken draw in the circumstances, especially with how it happened being 2 up.
Anyway, on to the next free hit/must win/ must not lose/ doesn't matter that much as we are 4-7 points safe / we are lucky to be here so enjoy the moment.
“Must win” implies some sort of dire consequence as a result of not achieving said win.What was the dire consequence of today’s result? As far as I can tell, we are further away from the drop than we were before the day started.
The dire consequence is, if we now lose the games against the bigger budgets in this season, which we did when we lost to Wrexham, Saints, Stoke, Coventry, Boro, and then still don't pick up the points against the teams around us, we are down.
Prevention is better than cure. We only don't look that bad today, because Norwich lost, Pompey & Oxford were postponed. Pompey could have been 1 behind us today.
We cannot keep relying on other teams being s**t, we need to win games of football, so how are the favourable fixtures not must wins?
You are taking it far too literal. You must realise the idea of projections, expectations etc and that I know we aren't relegated tonight?
Anyway, dreadful second half. Just Sheffield United, Derby and Millwall up next. Sure we will pick up 9 points to make up for it.
I can’t tell if this is trolling on your part, or maybe it’s just another example of how words like literally are no longer used in a literal sense.
It was literally a must win game.
You apply that exact same logic here. On paper, right now, and our form, suggests, we cannot beat the teams with bigger budgets, so we need to pick points up in these games, to avoid the drop, because chances are, there are a multiple number of games where we can probably expect 0 points.
All there is to it.
All good though, win 1 in 10 again, and say none of them are must wins again, sure the table will look dandy.At the top you have to keep winning to keep up the pace. At the bottom a point per game generally keeps you in the race, which is exactly what we’ve achieved the last few weeks.
We’ve won 1 in 10. Blackburn have won 1 in 10. Oxford have won 2 in 13.None of these teams are racing past us. No individual game is a must win when you want to avoid getting relegated. Because you only need to win about 3 in 10, against whoever you can get them, to be safe.
All you've done now is demonstrate that we are only staying afloat as other teams can't capitalise. Fingers crossed it stays that way, but it isn't realistic.
It's all good, respectfully, you're living in America and watching games on a VPN, it's easier to watch Charlton lose from afar, I know this as someone who has been a long distance addick. It's frustrating, but easier to have a measured head when you aren't bleeding as much time and money into it.3 -
538 Charlton there according to Crawley….. massive
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At last; someone gets Berry...oohaahmortimer said:I genuinely feel there is a lack of footballing brainpower in these players , no game management .
Kelman even admits he shouldn’t have hooked the ball in to no one , straight in to the keepers hands which led to the break for their goal .Yes holding the ball up would have been better for players to get nearer /in to the box .
Berry (lack of legs ) is the only one with a brain , he’s in there doing negligible fouls, constantly breaking up the rhythm of the oppo , look at his vision when he gets the ball he sees all around (good pass out wide for our first goal ) yes his legs are gone but he’s got a footballing brain way beyond our divvy group of crabs .0 -
Not being out of order, just saying how it usually is for most people.PragueAddick said:
I was happy just to read this spat about "must win" and stay out of it, but this is a bit out of order. I don't know Callum personally but he was one of the first long distance Addicks to book his flight to London (something like 11 hours each way) for the playoffs, and as I recall, flew more or less straight back again after the game, and at a time when his employment situation was a bit rocky. I'm not even sure you are right that it's easier to watch from afar on TV. At least when you are there, you are with friends/family, its a shared experience. It was pretty shitty watching the Pompey fiasco on Charlton TV and then 2 minutes later my wife (who is very wary of my football obsession) walks in and I have to immediately try and act normally, because after all this is not her problem. That's not a "measured head" there. It's a disturbed, bottled up one😂.Braziliance said:
It isn't equivalent, it is comparable, I am using it as an example so you can understand the importance of 6 pointers.Callumcafc said:
You’re comparing a top of the table chase to a bottom of the table dog fight. It’s not equivalent.Braziliance said:
If Man City play Arsenal 23 games in, or Real Madrid play Barca 23 games in etc, and they're both in a title race, they are must win games, as the assumption is, both teams in the title race, are too good to drop points against lesser teams.Callumcafc said:
The idea of a MUST WIN game is that you MUST WIN that game. You aren’t considering context of other games later in the season.Braziliance said:
Where do you think we will be if we go another 10 games with 1 win?Callumcafc said:
Brother, for the last time - these are not the same thing!!!Braziliance said:Charlton43 said:Think most would’ve taken a point before the game.If we can get a win against either Sheffield or Derby doesn’t look like a bad block of 4 games points wise.Love Macca for the play off final but he’s got to go now. Same as Bez and Doc, we need proper championship quality.
I genuinely reckon, I spoke to 50 Charlton fans today at the game, maybe more, not one of them said they'd be happy with a point, and most said it was a must win (35+ maybe) and the rest a not lose.
My poll on twitter with over 150 votes returned it as a 76% must win/6 pointer.
I think it's insanity to be happy with/ taken draw in the circumstances, especially with how it happened being 2 up.
Anyway, on to the next free hit/must win/ must not lose/ doesn't matter that much as we are 4-7 points safe / we are lucky to be here so enjoy the moment.
“Must win” implies some sort of dire consequence as a result of not achieving said win.What was the dire consequence of today’s result? As far as I can tell, we are further away from the drop than we were before the day started.
The dire consequence is, if we now lose the games against the bigger budgets in this season, which we did when we lost to Wrexham, Saints, Stoke, Coventry, Boro, and then still don't pick up the points against the teams around us, we are down.
Prevention is better than cure. We only don't look that bad today, because Norwich lost, Pompey & Oxford were postponed. Pompey could have been 1 behind us today.
We cannot keep relying on other teams being s**t, we need to win games of football, so how are the favourable fixtures not must wins?
You are taking it far too literal. You must realise the idea of projections, expectations etc and that I know we aren't relegated tonight?
Anyway, dreadful second half. Just Sheffield United, Derby and Millwall up next. Sure we will pick up 9 points to make up for it.
I can’t tell if this is trolling on your part, or maybe it’s just another example of how words like literally are no longer used in a literal sense.
It was literally a must win game.
You apply that exact same logic here. On paper, right now, and our form, suggests, we cannot beat the teams with bigger budgets, so we need to pick points up in these games, to avoid the drop, because chances are, there are a multiple number of games where we can probably expect 0 points.
All there is to it.
All good though, win 1 in 10 again, and say none of them are must wins again, sure the table will look dandy.At the top you have to keep winning to keep up the pace. At the bottom a point per game generally keeps you in the race, which is exactly what we’ve achieved the last few weeks.
We’ve won 1 in 10. Blackburn have won 1 in 10. Oxford have won 2 in 13.None of these teams are racing past us. No individual game is a must win when you want to avoid getting relegated. Because you only need to win about 3 in 10, against whoever you can get them, to be safe.
All you've done now is demonstrate that we are only staying afloat as other teams can't capitalise. Fingers crossed it stays that way, but it isn't realistic.
It's all good, respectfully, you're living in America and watching games on a VPN, it's easier to watch Charlton lose from afar, I know this as someone who has been a long distance addick. It's frustrating, but easier to have a measured head when you aren't bleeding as much time and money into it.
Then of course I'm bound to point out that you are also seeking to recover some of the "bleeding money", are you not? That's OK per se by me, a lot of people like your work, but it's the nature of vlogging generally that it seeks to create immediate extreme reactions from an audience rather than a more measured viewpoint. So you are in the kitchen, creating some heat, not sure you can complain about the heat too much.
When I was long distance from Charlton and we lost, I'd just ask my ex if she fancied a roll around or I'd go for a tug, can't exactly do that at the Stadium, instead a 3 or so hour minimum journey home awaits.
The money made from YouTube isn't even worth mentioning most of the time tbh, if a video has less than 3-4k views, you'd be lucky to pay for a Maccies, even then, depends how long people watched.
It's not about handling the heat, don't mind people in person or opposition fans, just get irate at the petty shite on here.2 -
Sorry if this winds you up mateoohaahmortimer said:538 Charlton there according to Crawley….. massive
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Operation Ewood.Braziliance said:
Sorry if this winds you up mateoohaahmortimer said:538 Charlton there according to Crawley….. massive2 -
Is that a deliberate misspelling to hint that you think Crawley would have taken more than that?oohaahmortimer said:538 Charlton there according to Crawley….. massive5 -
There were a few sat in the home area (due to away tickets being off sale before the Coventry game, and Blackburn not selling them on the day)0
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I think the two things can both be true. At an individual level, I think we have quite a few players in our squad (and even in our XI) that are League One level. That has been painfully clear in recent times. But the sum of our parts can add up to a Championship side, we saw that earlier in the season.DOUCHER said:
Not true - we’ve added £12m of talent and will be adding some more this month plus, extending your logic, the fact we got promoted means we had an above league 1 level squad last year otherwise we would still be in league 1msomerton said:
Yes a surprise for us all, but we had a League 1 squad last season in league 1, this season we have a league 1 squad in the Championship, so a very different scenario.DOUCHER said:Have a look at the louis mendez graph this time last year and see what the projection was and how many must win games we had lost if we wanted to get promoted - loads - what happened? we got promoted. Football isn't an exact science. Teams go on runs, teams drop out of form, teams beat those their not expected to and lose to those they should beat. I'll take the fact we have half a season to go, a manager who is renowned for stronger second half's of seasons, the fact we have well over half of the points needed and more games at home than away to come, the fact players are coming back from injury, we have signings already done with more to come overseen by a manager who has a proven track record of knowing what is needed.Try to look at the bigger picture and stop looking at he graph from the last 10 games. I've seen many relegation set ups and this isn't one.1 -
This is why if I can't watch the game in person then I avoid score updates until the game's guaranteed to have finished.PeaksAndValleys said:
Fully relate to this ha. Was away between Christmas and NY, couldn't watch but was following updates on my phone and supposed to be having a drink with family. Jumped up and did a lap of honour round the lobby celebrating, then had my head in my hands after checking my phone again. Basically couldn't speak after because I was so gutted and just went to bed!Callumcafc said:
It’s hard to say whether the distance thing has an effect on being level headed post match, or how much.NabySarr said:
There’s also plenty of more measured head fans that are at pretty much every game. I’m one of themPragueAddick said:
I was happy just to read this spat about "must win" and stay out of it, but this is a bit out of order. I don't know Callum personally but he was one of the first long distance Addicks to book his flight to London (something like 11 hours each way) for the playoffs, and as I recall, flew more or less straight back again after the game, and at a time when his employment situation was a bit rocky. I'm not even sure you are right that it's easier to watch from afar on TV. At least when you are there, you are with friends/family, its a shared experience. It was pretty shitty watching the Pompey fiasco on Charlton TV and then 2 minutes later my wife (who is very wary of my football obsession) walks in and I have to immediately try and act normally, because after all this is not her problem. That's not a "measured head" there. It's a disturbed, bottled up one😂.Braziliance said:
It isn't equivalent, it is comparable, I am using it as an example so you can understand the importance of 6 pointers.Callumcafc said:
You’re comparing a top of the table chase to a bottom of the table dog fight. It’s not equivalent.Braziliance said:
If Man City play Arsenal 23 games in, or Real Madrid play Barca 23 games in etc, and they're both in a title race, they are must win games, as the assumption is, both teams in the title race, are too good to drop points against lesser teams.Callumcafc said:
The idea of a MUST WIN game is that you MUST WIN that game. You aren’t considering context of other games later in the season.Braziliance said:
Where do you think we will be if we go another 10 games with 1 win?Callumcafc said:
Brother, for the last time - these are not the same thing!!!Braziliance said:Charlton43 said:Think most would’ve taken a point before the game.If we can get a win against either Sheffield or Derby doesn’t look like a bad block of 4 games points wise.Love Macca for the play off final but he’s got to go now. Same as Bez and Doc, we need proper championship quality.
I genuinely reckon, I spoke to 50 Charlton fans today at the game, maybe more, not one of them said they'd be happy with a point, and most said it was a must win (35+ maybe) and the rest a not lose.
My poll on twitter with over 150 votes returned it as a 76% must win/6 pointer.
I think it's insanity to be happy with/ taken draw in the circumstances, especially with how it happened being 2 up.
Anyway, on to the next free hit/must win/ must not lose/ doesn't matter that much as we are 4-7 points safe / we are lucky to be here so enjoy the moment.
“Must win” implies some sort of dire consequence as a result of not achieving said win.What was the dire consequence of today’s result? As far as I can tell, we are further away from the drop than we were before the day started.
The dire consequence is, if we now lose the games against the bigger budgets in this season, which we did when we lost to Wrexham, Saints, Stoke, Coventry, Boro, and then still don't pick up the points against the teams around us, we are down.
Prevention is better than cure. We only don't look that bad today, because Norwich lost, Pompey & Oxford were postponed. Pompey could have been 1 behind us today.
We cannot keep relying on other teams being s**t, we need to win games of football, so how are the favourable fixtures not must wins?
You are taking it far too literal. You must realise the idea of projections, expectations etc and that I know we aren't relegated tonight?
Anyway, dreadful second half. Just Sheffield United, Derby and Millwall up next. Sure we will pick up 9 points to make up for it.
I can’t tell if this is trolling on your part, or maybe it’s just another example of how words like literally are no longer used in a literal sense.
It was literally a must win game.
You apply that exact same logic here. On paper, right now, and our form, suggests, we cannot beat the teams with bigger budgets, so we need to pick points up in these games, to avoid the drop, because chances are, there are a multiple number of games where we can probably expect 0 points.
All there is to it.
All good though, win 1 in 10 again, and say none of them are must wins again, sure the table will look dandy.At the top you have to keep winning to keep up the pace. At the bottom a point per game generally keeps you in the race, which is exactly what we’ve achieved the last few weeks.
We’ve won 1 in 10. Blackburn have won 1 in 10. Oxford have won 2 in 13.None of these teams are racing past us. No individual game is a must win when you want to avoid getting relegated. Because you only need to win about 3 in 10, against whoever you can get them, to be safe.
All you've done now is demonstrate that we are only staying afloat as other teams can't capitalise. Fingers crossed it stays that way, but it isn't realistic.
It's all good, respectfully, you're living in America and watching games on a VPN, it's easier to watch Charlton lose from afar, I know this as someone who has been a long distance addick. It's frustrating, but easier to have a measured head when you aren't bleeding as much time and money into it.
Then of course I'm bound to point out that you are also seeking to recover some of the "bleeding money", are you not? That's OK per se by me, a lot of people like your work, but it's the nature of vlogging generally that it seeks to create immediate extreme reactions from an audience rather than a more measured viewpoint. So you are in the kitchen, creating some heat, not sure you can complain about the heat too much.
Can understand some over the top reactions after the full time whistle, I’m definitely guilty myself of them, it’s heat of the moment and have had a drink, but I’m usually then more reasonable after a few hours or the next day. But it feels like too many people act like our season is over after one defeat, or write a player off after a few bad games. I think it’s a modern football fan thing, overreaction to defeats, demanding the manager out sooner, demanding money spent on new players rather than being a bit more patient with some of our existing players. It’s not going anywhere unfortunately and every fan base is the same
My brain is constantly calculating as the game is going on “well we need this many points… we have this much probability of getting back into the game after conceding first…” etc. which I think helps me more than distance, although I will stay I can do that with a clearer head when I’m not at the ground personally, so maybe distance is a factor indirectly?
Like Prague said though, it’s not like the big moments don’t get me excited or sting like anyone else. My wife actually laughed at me at Portsmouth FT because she watched me jump around like a lunatic in the living room for a minute and then immediately fall on the floor with my head in my hands when we conceded. She told me she wanted to watch a film together immediately after that and I said I needed an hour to calm down first lol.
I feel the moments just as much as I always have done - I just have more space to breathe and think about the context of a 46 game season more clearly than if I’m surrounded by others in the Covered End trying to suck the ball into the net.0 -
Google is only your friend if you use it wisely. That means using it as a resource to quickly find trusted and trustworthy sources. If you simply use it to copy and paste the first thing it presents you with, it is likely to be a false friend.Braziliance said:
Google is your friend. Like I said before, people take it way too seriously and start being pedantic as a result.se9addick said:
Again, you’re moving the goal posts (or misunderstanding what “must win” means). No one thinks yesterday wasn’t important or a good opportunity to pick up three points. But it, evidently, wasn’t a “must win” match. Given that your poll conflated must win with a six pointer, which aren’t the same thing, I’m not surprised that you had people agreeing with you when you interviewed them yesterday.Braziliance said:_uptheaddicks said:
Absolutely. It’s become a core part of today’s vlogger and YouTube culture: create a bit of extra drama, even if it comes at the cost of harmony within their own fan base.AFKABartram said:‘’Must win’ just creates unnecessary pressure and additional disappointment when it doesn’t occur.There were 66 points still on offer going into yesterday’s game. Winning / Drawing / Losing v Blackburn won’t define our season, if we end up staying up by 10 points then this game would have had no real relevance.
I’m purposely not looking at the table now until about mid-Feb when there’s 13-14 games to go. We know we need to start winning games, that’s clear to everyone, as is the likely outcome if we don’t.
In reality, if we had drawn all of our so called ‘must win’ games, we still would have come away with a 3 point gap from each team played. Wins would have been great, of course.
Fkn hilarious.se9addick said:
I think that’s really pertinent. It seems like the need to create constant drama for “content” means all perspective is lost. Yesterday was a six pointer and we should have been targeting a win (especially at two bloody nil up) but it clearly wasn’t a “must win” game since we didn’t win it and our goal of avoiding relegation is still alive._uptheaddicks said:
Absolutely. It’s become a core part of today’s vlogger and YouTube culture: create a bit of extra drama, even if it comes at the cost of harmony within their own fan base.AFKABartram said:‘’Must win’ just creates unnecessary pressure and additional disappointment when it doesn’t occur.There were 66 points still on offer going into yesterday’s game. Winning / Drawing / Losing v Blackburn won’t define our season, if we end up staying up by 10 points then this game would have had no real relevance.
I’m purposely not looking at the table now until about mid-Feb when there’s 13-14 games to go. We know we need to start winning games, that’s clear to everyone, as is the likely outcome if we don’t.
In reality, if we had drawn all of our so called ‘must win’ games, we still would have come away with a 3 point gap from each team played. Wins would have been great, of course.
Guess everyone who went Blackburn away I spoke to yesterday also must run youtube accounts as they were all in agreement how important a win was (off camera)
And all the Blackburn fans I had a chat with must have a secret tiktok setup who also said they need a win because of their poor form.
"The cost of harmony"
You do realise there are millions of football fans who lose their mind after bad results and not all of them are on camera or YouTube themselves?
I have posted in this exact same manner about Charlton on all social media platforms for almost 2 decades. Has absolutely f all to do with a youtube account.
Petty, petty jabs.I genuinely thought this was a well understood term that didn’t really need explanation.
It is what it is, I have a very different view point about Charlton to posters on Charlton Life. All it comes down to.
The nature of the word 'must' is not subjective. It is an imperative. That means, if it is not met there will be some negative consequence(s): You must win or you will be relegated or perhaps, you must win or you cannot be champions. These things are definite and measurable. That cannot possibly be the case this early in the season.
The only way that you can correctly state that a league game is a must win at this stage in the season is by restricting the consequences of not winning to something relatively trivial. It's a must win, if you want all three points; it's a must win, if you don't want the manager to shout at the players; it's a must win, if you want the fans to go home happy. I don't believe that you, or anyone else, ever uses the term in this way. It's always about end of season consequences. And in those terms it is nonsense.2 -
From now on in life Stig, everytime you hear someone use the word 'must' whether it be "we must visit this country" or "we must go here" or "we must do this" or "oh, you must try this food"Stig said:
Google is only your friend if you use it wisely. That means using it as a resource to quickly find trusted and trustworthy sources. If you simply use it to copy and paste the first thing it presents you with, it is likely to be a false friend.Braziliance said:
Google is your friend. Like I said before, people take it way too seriously and start being pedantic as a result.se9addick said:
Again, you’re moving the goal posts (or misunderstanding what “must win” means). No one thinks yesterday wasn’t important or a good opportunity to pick up three points. But it, evidently, wasn’t a “must win” match. Given that your poll conflated must win with a six pointer, which aren’t the same thing, I’m not surprised that you had people agreeing with you when you interviewed them yesterday.Braziliance said:_uptheaddicks said:
Absolutely. It’s become a core part of today’s vlogger and YouTube culture: create a bit of extra drama, even if it comes at the cost of harmony within their own fan base.AFKABartram said:‘’Must win’ just creates unnecessary pressure and additional disappointment when it doesn’t occur.There were 66 points still on offer going into yesterday’s game. Winning / Drawing / Losing v Blackburn won’t define our season, if we end up staying up by 10 points then this game would have had no real relevance.
I’m purposely not looking at the table now until about mid-Feb when there’s 13-14 games to go. We know we need to start winning games, that’s clear to everyone, as is the likely outcome if we don’t.
In reality, if we had drawn all of our so called ‘must win’ games, we still would have come away with a 3 point gap from each team played. Wins would have been great, of course.
Fkn hilarious.se9addick said:
I think that’s really pertinent. It seems like the need to create constant drama for “content” means all perspective is lost. Yesterday was a six pointer and we should have been targeting a win (especially at two bloody nil up) but it clearly wasn’t a “must win” game since we didn’t win it and our goal of avoiding relegation is still alive._uptheaddicks said:
Absolutely. It’s become a core part of today’s vlogger and YouTube culture: create a bit of extra drama, even if it comes at the cost of harmony within their own fan base.AFKABartram said:‘’Must win’ just creates unnecessary pressure and additional disappointment when it doesn’t occur.There were 66 points still on offer going into yesterday’s game. Winning / Drawing / Losing v Blackburn won’t define our season, if we end up staying up by 10 points then this game would have had no real relevance.
I’m purposely not looking at the table now until about mid-Feb when there’s 13-14 games to go. We know we need to start winning games, that’s clear to everyone, as is the likely outcome if we don’t.
In reality, if we had drawn all of our so called ‘must win’ games, we still would have come away with a 3 point gap from each team played. Wins would have been great, of course.
Guess everyone who went Blackburn away I spoke to yesterday also must run youtube accounts as they were all in agreement how important a win was (off camera)
And all the Blackburn fans I had a chat with must have a secret tiktok setup who also said they need a win because of their poor form.
"The cost of harmony"
You do realise there are millions of football fans who lose their mind after bad results and not all of them are on camera or YouTube themselves?
I have posted in this exact same manner about Charlton on all social media platforms for almost 2 decades. Has absolutely f all to do with a youtube account.
Petty, petty jabs.I genuinely thought this was a well understood term that didn’t really need explanation.
It is what it is, I have a very different view point about Charlton to posters on Charlton Life. All it comes down to.
The nature of the word 'must' is not subjective. It is an imperative. That means, if it is not met there will be some negative consequence(s): You must win or you will be relegated or perhaps, you must win or you cannot be champions. These things are definite and measurable. That cannot possibly be the case this early in the season.
The only way that you can correctly state that a league game is a must win at this stage in the season is by restricting the consequences of not winning to something relatively trivial. It's a must win, if you want all three points; it's a must win, if you don't want the manager to shout at the players; it's a must win, if you want the fans to go home happy. I don't believe that you, or anyone else, ever uses the term in this way. It's always about end of season consequences. And in those terms it is nonsense.
I want you to stop them, and say no, and say outloud exactly what you just typed there in relation to what they use the word must for. As I am sure that's how you behave off of Charlton Life and won't come across a total fkn nutter.6 -
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I must say I'm very impressed with your response.Braziliance said:
From now on in life Stig, everytime you hear someone use the word 'must' whether it be "we must visit this country" or "we must go here" or "we must do this" or "oh, you must try this food"Stig said:
Google is only your friend if you use it wisely. That means using it as a resource to quickly find trusted and trustworthy sources. If you simply use it to copy and paste the first thing it presents you with, it is likely to be a false friend.Braziliance said:
Google is your friend. Like I said before, people take it way too seriously and start being pedantic as a result.se9addick said:
Again, you’re moving the goal posts (or misunderstanding what “must win” means). No one thinks yesterday wasn’t important or a good opportunity to pick up three points. But it, evidently, wasn’t a “must win” match. Given that your poll conflated must win with a six pointer, which aren’t the same thing, I’m not surprised that you had people agreeing with you when you interviewed them yesterday.Braziliance said:_uptheaddicks said:
Absolutely. It’s become a core part of today’s vlogger and YouTube culture: create a bit of extra drama, even if it comes at the cost of harmony within their own fan base.AFKABartram said:‘’Must win’ just creates unnecessary pressure and additional disappointment when it doesn’t occur.There were 66 points still on offer going into yesterday’s game. Winning / Drawing / Losing v Blackburn won’t define our season, if we end up staying up by 10 points then this game would have had no real relevance.
I’m purposely not looking at the table now until about mid-Feb when there’s 13-14 games to go. We know we need to start winning games, that’s clear to everyone, as is the likely outcome if we don’t.
In reality, if we had drawn all of our so called ‘must win’ games, we still would have come away with a 3 point gap from each team played. Wins would have been great, of course.
Fkn hilarious.se9addick said:
I think that’s really pertinent. It seems like the need to create constant drama for “content” means all perspective is lost. Yesterday was a six pointer and we should have been targeting a win (especially at two bloody nil up) but it clearly wasn’t a “must win” game since we didn’t win it and our goal of avoiding relegation is still alive._uptheaddicks said:
Absolutely. It’s become a core part of today’s vlogger and YouTube culture: create a bit of extra drama, even if it comes at the cost of harmony within their own fan base.AFKABartram said:‘’Must win’ just creates unnecessary pressure and additional disappointment when it doesn’t occur.There were 66 points still on offer going into yesterday’s game. Winning / Drawing / Losing v Blackburn won’t define our season, if we end up staying up by 10 points then this game would have had no real relevance.
I’m purposely not looking at the table now until about mid-Feb when there’s 13-14 games to go. We know we need to start winning games, that’s clear to everyone, as is the likely outcome if we don’t.
In reality, if we had drawn all of our so called ‘must win’ games, we still would have come away with a 3 point gap from each team played. Wins would have been great, of course.
Guess everyone who went Blackburn away I spoke to yesterday also must run youtube accounts as they were all in agreement how important a win was (off camera)
And all the Blackburn fans I had a chat with must have a secret tiktok setup who also said they need a win because of their poor form.
"The cost of harmony"
You do realise there are millions of football fans who lose their mind after bad results and not all of them are on camera or YouTube themselves?
I have posted in this exact same manner about Charlton on all social media platforms for almost 2 decades. Has absolutely f all to do with a youtube account.
Petty, petty jabs.I genuinely thought this was a well understood term that didn’t really need explanation.
It is what it is, I have a very different view point about Charlton to posters on Charlton Life. All it comes down to.
The nature of the word 'must' is not subjective. It is an imperative. That means, if it is not met there will be some negative consequence(s): You must win or you will be relegated or perhaps, you must win or you cannot be champions. These things are definite and measurable. That cannot possibly be the case this early in the season.
The only way that you can correctly state that a league game is a must win at this stage in the season is by restricting the consequences of not winning to something relatively trivial. It's a must win, if you want all three points; it's a must win, if you don't want the manager to shout at the players; it's a must win, if you want the fans to go home happy. I don't believe that you, or anyone else, ever uses the term in this way. It's always about end of season consequences. And in those terms it is nonsense.
I want you to stop them, and say no, and say outloud exactly what you just typed there in relation to what they use the word must for. As I am sure that's how you behave off of Charlton Life and won't come across a total fkn nutter.0 -
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Not taking risks. Almost hiding.YannTheMann said:I also don't know why we keep playing Knibbs? He is slow, not particularly committed and doesn't make smart runs. What is he supposed to be doing out there??? Surely Nathan isn't saying "Keep yourself marked and don't look to get into any threatening positions"
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Many of the level headed, most respected posters on CL disagree with you.Braziliance said:
Google is your friend. Like I said before, people take it way too seriously and start being pedantic as a result.se9addick said:
Again, you’re moving the goal posts (or misunderstanding what “must win” means). No one thinks yesterday wasn’t important or a good opportunity to pick up three points. But it, evidently, wasn’t a “must win” match. Given that your poll conflated must win with a six pointer, which aren’t the same thing, I’m not surprised that you had people agreeing with you when you interviewed them yesterday.Braziliance said:_uptheaddicks said:
Absolutely. It’s become a core part of today’s vlogger and YouTube culture: create a bit of extra drama, even if it comes at the cost of harmony within their own fan base.AFKABartram said:‘’Must win’ just creates unnecessary pressure and additional disappointment when it doesn’t occur.There were 66 points still on offer going into yesterday’s game. Winning / Drawing / Losing v Blackburn won’t define our season, if we end up staying up by 10 points then this game would have had no real relevance.
I’m purposely not looking at the table now until about mid-Feb when there’s 13-14 games to go. We know we need to start winning games, that’s clear to everyone, as is the likely outcome if we don’t.
In reality, if we had drawn all of our so called ‘must win’ games, we still would have come away with a 3 point gap from each team played. Wins would have been great, of course.
Fkn hilarious.se9addick said:
I think that’s really pertinent. It seems like the need to create constant drama for “content” means all perspective is lost. Yesterday was a six pointer and we should have been targeting a win (especially at two bloody nil up) but it clearly wasn’t a “must win” game since we didn’t win it and our goal of avoiding relegation is still alive._uptheaddicks said:
Absolutely. It’s become a core part of today’s vlogger and YouTube culture: create a bit of extra drama, even if it comes at the cost of harmony within their own fan base.AFKABartram said:‘’Must win’ just creates unnecessary pressure and additional disappointment when it doesn’t occur.There were 66 points still on offer going into yesterday’s game. Winning / Drawing / Losing v Blackburn won’t define our season, if we end up staying up by 10 points then this game would have had no real relevance.
I’m purposely not looking at the table now until about mid-Feb when there’s 13-14 games to go. We know we need to start winning games, that’s clear to everyone, as is the likely outcome if we don’t.
In reality, if we had drawn all of our so called ‘must win’ games, we still would have come away with a 3 point gap from each team played. Wins would have been great, of course.
Guess everyone who went Blackburn away I spoke to yesterday also must run youtube accounts as they were all in agreement how important a win was (off camera)
And all the Blackburn fans I had a chat with must have a secret tiktok setup who also said they need a win because of their poor form.
"The cost of harmony"
You do realise there are millions of football fans who lose their mind after bad results and not all of them are on camera or YouTube themselves?
I have posted in this exact same manner about Charlton on all social media platforms for almost 2 decades. Has absolutely f all to do with a youtube account.
Petty, petty jabs.I genuinely thought this was a well understood term that didn’t really need explanation.
It is what it is, I have a very different view point about Charlton to posters on Charlton Life. All it comes down to.
This should tell you something (but I know it doesn't).0 -
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But regretfully you're the root cause of the petty shite.Braziliance said:
Not being out of order, just saying how it usually is for most people.PragueAddick said:
I was happy just to read this spat about "must win" and stay out of it, but this is a bit out of order. I don't know Callum personally but he was one of the first long distance Addicks to book his flight to London (something like 11 hours each way) for the playoffs, and as I recall, flew more or less straight back again after the game, and at a time when his employment situation was a bit rocky. I'm not even sure you are right that it's easier to watch from afar on TV. At least when you are there, you are with friends/family, its a shared experience. It was pretty shitty watching the Pompey fiasco on Charlton TV and then 2 minutes later my wife (who is very wary of my football obsession) walks in and I have to immediately try and act normally, because after all this is not her problem. That's not a "measured head" there. It's a disturbed, bottled up one😂.Braziliance said:
It isn't equivalent, it is comparable, I am using it as an example so you can understand the importance of 6 pointers.Callumcafc said:
You’re comparing a top of the table chase to a bottom of the table dog fight. It’s not equivalent.Braziliance said:
If Man City play Arsenal 23 games in, or Real Madrid play Barca 23 games in etc, and they're both in a title race, they are must win games, as the assumption is, both teams in the title race, are too good to drop points against lesser teams.Callumcafc said:
The idea of a MUST WIN game is that you MUST WIN that game. You aren’t considering context of other games later in the season.Braziliance said:
Where do you think we will be if we go another 10 games with 1 win?Callumcafc said:
Brother, for the last time - these are not the same thing!!!Braziliance said:Charlton43 said:Think most would’ve taken a point before the game.If we can get a win against either Sheffield or Derby doesn’t look like a bad block of 4 games points wise.Love Macca for the play off final but he’s got to go now. Same as Bez and Doc, we need proper championship quality.
I genuinely reckon, I spoke to 50 Charlton fans today at the game, maybe more, not one of them said they'd be happy with a point, and most said it was a must win (35+ maybe) and the rest a not lose.
My poll on twitter with over 150 votes returned it as a 76% must win/6 pointer.
I think it's insanity to be happy with/ taken draw in the circumstances, especially with how it happened being 2 up.
Anyway, on to the next free hit/must win/ must not lose/ doesn't matter that much as we are 4-7 points safe / we are lucky to be here so enjoy the moment.
“Must win” implies some sort of dire consequence as a result of not achieving said win.What was the dire consequence of today’s result? As far as I can tell, we are further away from the drop than we were before the day started.
The dire consequence is, if we now lose the games against the bigger budgets in this season, which we did when we lost to Wrexham, Saints, Stoke, Coventry, Boro, and then still don't pick up the points against the teams around us, we are down.
Prevention is better than cure. We only don't look that bad today, because Norwich lost, Pompey & Oxford were postponed. Pompey could have been 1 behind us today.
We cannot keep relying on other teams being s**t, we need to win games of football, so how are the favourable fixtures not must wins?
You are taking it far too literal. You must realise the idea of projections, expectations etc and that I know we aren't relegated tonight?
Anyway, dreadful second half. Just Sheffield United, Derby and Millwall up next. Sure we will pick up 9 points to make up for it.
I can’t tell if this is trolling on your part, or maybe it’s just another example of how words like literally are no longer used in a literal sense.
It was literally a must win game.
You apply that exact same logic here. On paper, right now, and our form, suggests, we cannot beat the teams with bigger budgets, so we need to pick points up in these games, to avoid the drop, because chances are, there are a multiple number of games where we can probably expect 0 points.
All there is to it.
All good though, win 1 in 10 again, and say none of them are must wins again, sure the table will look dandy.At the top you have to keep winning to keep up the pace. At the bottom a point per game generally keeps you in the race, which is exactly what we’ve achieved the last few weeks.
We’ve won 1 in 10. Blackburn have won 1 in 10. Oxford have won 2 in 13.None of these teams are racing past us. No individual game is a must win when you want to avoid getting relegated. Because you only need to win about 3 in 10, against whoever you can get them, to be safe.
All you've done now is demonstrate that we are only staying afloat as other teams can't capitalise. Fingers crossed it stays that way, but it isn't realistic.
It's all good, respectfully, you're living in America and watching games on a VPN, it's easier to watch Charlton lose from afar, I know this as someone who has been a long distance addick. It's frustrating, but easier to have a measured head when you aren't bleeding as much time and money into it.
Then of course I'm bound to point out that you are also seeking to recover some of the "bleeding money", are you not? That's OK per se by me, a lot of people like your work, but it's the nature of vlogging generally that it seeks to create immediate extreme reactions from an audience rather than a more measured viewpoint. So you are in the kitchen, creating some heat, not sure you can complain about the heat too much.
When I was long distance from Charlton and we lost, I'd just ask my ex if she fancied a roll around or I'd go for a tug, can't exactly do that at the Stadium, instead a 3 or so hour minimum journey home awaits.
The money made from YouTube isn't even worth mentioning most of the time tbh, if a video has less than 3-4k views, you'd be lucky to pay for a Maccies, even then, depends how long people watched.
It's not about handling the heat, don't mind people in person or opposition fans, just get irate at the petty shite on here.
You state as fact things that aren't fact, according to very many of the best, knowledgeable level headed posters.
When many posters disagree, you then reply to every dissenter for days on end, arguing that you're correct and that they are wrong. You evidence this by a series of irrelevant and ill thought out comparisons.
You also often say that you were only joking when many disagree or your posts aren't meant to be taken literally.
If you didn't post your opinions dressed up as fact and allowed other posters to disagree, there would be no petty shite.
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So it wasn't you on his latest blog then?Covered End said:
But regretfully you're the root cause of the petty shite.Braziliance said:
Not being out of order, just saying how it usually is for most people.PragueAddick said:
I was happy just to read this spat about "must win" and stay out of it, but this is a bit out of order. I don't know Callum personally but he was one of the first long distance Addicks to book his flight to London (something like 11 hours each way) for the playoffs, and as I recall, flew more or less straight back again after the game, and at a time when his employment situation was a bit rocky. I'm not even sure you are right that it's easier to watch from afar on TV. At least when you are there, you are with friends/family, its a shared experience. It was pretty shitty watching the Pompey fiasco on Charlton TV and then 2 minutes later my wife (who is very wary of my football obsession) walks in and I have to immediately try and act normally, because after all this is not her problem. That's not a "measured head" there. It's a disturbed, bottled up one😂.Braziliance said:
It isn't equivalent, it is comparable, I am using it as an example so you can understand the importance of 6 pointers.Callumcafc said:
You’re comparing a top of the table chase to a bottom of the table dog fight. It’s not equivalent.Braziliance said:
If Man City play Arsenal 23 games in, or Real Madrid play Barca 23 games in etc, and they're both in a title race, they are must win games, as the assumption is, both teams in the title race, are too good to drop points against lesser teams.Callumcafc said:
The idea of a MUST WIN game is that you MUST WIN that game. You aren’t considering context of other games later in the season.Braziliance said:
Where do you think we will be if we go another 10 games with 1 win?Callumcafc said:
Brother, for the last time - these are not the same thing!!!Braziliance said:Charlton43 said:Think most would’ve taken a point before the game.If we can get a win against either Sheffield or Derby doesn’t look like a bad block of 4 games points wise.Love Macca for the play off final but he’s got to go now. Same as Bez and Doc, we need proper championship quality.
I genuinely reckon, I spoke to 50 Charlton fans today at the game, maybe more, not one of them said they'd be happy with a point, and most said it was a must win (35+ maybe) and the rest a not lose.
My poll on twitter with over 150 votes returned it as a 76% must win/6 pointer.
I think it's insanity to be happy with/ taken draw in the circumstances, especially with how it happened being 2 up.
Anyway, on to the next free hit/must win/ must not lose/ doesn't matter that much as we are 4-7 points safe / we are lucky to be here so enjoy the moment.
“Must win” implies some sort of dire consequence as a result of not achieving said win.What was the dire consequence of today’s result? As far as I can tell, we are further away from the drop than we were before the day started.
The dire consequence is, if we now lose the games against the bigger budgets in this season, which we did when we lost to Wrexham, Saints, Stoke, Coventry, Boro, and then still don't pick up the points against the teams around us, we are down.
Prevention is better than cure. We only don't look that bad today, because Norwich lost, Pompey & Oxford were postponed. Pompey could have been 1 behind us today.
We cannot keep relying on other teams being s**t, we need to win games of football, so how are the favourable fixtures not must wins?
You are taking it far too literal. You must realise the idea of projections, expectations etc and that I know we aren't relegated tonight?
Anyway, dreadful second half. Just Sheffield United, Derby and Millwall up next. Sure we will pick up 9 points to make up for it.
I can’t tell if this is trolling on your part, or maybe it’s just another example of how words like literally are no longer used in a literal sense.
It was literally a must win game.
You apply that exact same logic here. On paper, right now, and our form, suggests, we cannot beat the teams with bigger budgets, so we need to pick points up in these games, to avoid the drop, because chances are, there are a multiple number of games where we can probably expect 0 points.
All there is to it.
All good though, win 1 in 10 again, and say none of them are must wins again, sure the table will look dandy.At the top you have to keep winning to keep up the pace. At the bottom a point per game generally keeps you in the race, which is exactly what we’ve achieved the last few weeks.
We’ve won 1 in 10. Blackburn have won 1 in 10. Oxford have won 2 in 13.None of these teams are racing past us. No individual game is a must win when you want to avoid getting relegated. Because you only need to win about 3 in 10, against whoever you can get them, to be safe.
All you've done now is demonstrate that we are only staying afloat as other teams can't capitalise. Fingers crossed it stays that way, but it isn't realistic.
It's all good, respectfully, you're living in America and watching games on a VPN, it's easier to watch Charlton lose from afar, I know this as someone who has been a long distance addick. It's frustrating, but easier to have a measured head when you aren't bleeding as much time and money into it.
Then of course I'm bound to point out that you are also seeking to recover some of the "bleeding money", are you not? That's OK per se by me, a lot of people like your work, but it's the nature of vlogging generally that it seeks to create immediate extreme reactions from an audience rather than a more measured viewpoint. So you are in the kitchen, creating some heat, not sure you can complain about the heat too much.
When I was long distance from Charlton and we lost, I'd just ask my ex if she fancied a roll around or I'd go for a tug, can't exactly do that at the Stadium, instead a 3 or so hour minimum journey home awaits.
The money made from YouTube isn't even worth mentioning most of the time tbh, if a video has less than 3-4k views, you'd be lucky to pay for a Maccies, even then, depends how long people watched.
It's not about handling the heat, don't mind people in person or opposition fans, just get irate at the petty shite on here.
You state as fact things that aren't fact, according to very many of the best, knowledgeable level headed posters.
When many posters disagree, you then reply to every dissenter for days on end, arguing that you're correct and that they are wrong. You evidence this by a series of irrelevant and ill thought out comparisons.
You also often say that you were only joking when many disagree or your posts aren't meant to be taken literally.
If you didn't post your opinions dressed up as fact and allowed other posters to disagree, there would be no petty shite.
Apologies, I'm just trying to explain (but not expecting to be successful).0 -
I stopped and you chimed in.Covered End said:
But regretfully you're the root cause of the petty shite.Braziliance said:
Not being out of order, just saying how it usually is for most people.PragueAddick said:
I was happy just to read this spat about "must win" and stay out of it, but this is a bit out of order. I don't know Callum personally but he was one of the first long distance Addicks to book his flight to London (something like 11 hours each way) for the playoffs, and as I recall, flew more or less straight back again after the game, and at a time when his employment situation was a bit rocky. I'm not even sure you are right that it's easier to watch from afar on TV. At least when you are there, you are with friends/family, its a shared experience. It was pretty shitty watching the Pompey fiasco on Charlton TV and then 2 minutes later my wife (who is very wary of my football obsession) walks in and I have to immediately try and act normally, because after all this is not her problem. That's not a "measured head" there. It's a disturbed, bottled up one😂.Braziliance said:
It isn't equivalent, it is comparable, I am using it as an example so you can understand the importance of 6 pointers.Callumcafc said:
You’re comparing a top of the table chase to a bottom of the table dog fight. It’s not equivalent.Braziliance said:
If Man City play Arsenal 23 games in, or Real Madrid play Barca 23 games in etc, and they're both in a title race, they are must win games, as the assumption is, both teams in the title race, are too good to drop points against lesser teams.Callumcafc said:
The idea of a MUST WIN game is that you MUST WIN that game. You aren’t considering context of other games later in the season.Braziliance said:
Where do you think we will be if we go another 10 games with 1 win?Callumcafc said:
Brother, for the last time - these are not the same thing!!!Braziliance said:Charlton43 said:Think most would’ve taken a point before the game.If we can get a win against either Sheffield or Derby doesn’t look like a bad block of 4 games points wise.Love Macca for the play off final but he’s got to go now. Same as Bez and Doc, we need proper championship quality.
I genuinely reckon, I spoke to 50 Charlton fans today at the game, maybe more, not one of them said they'd be happy with a point, and most said it was a must win (35+ maybe) and the rest a not lose.
My poll on twitter with over 150 votes returned it as a 76% must win/6 pointer.
I think it's insanity to be happy with/ taken draw in the circumstances, especially with how it happened being 2 up.
Anyway, on to the next free hit/must win/ must not lose/ doesn't matter that much as we are 4-7 points safe / we are lucky to be here so enjoy the moment.
“Must win” implies some sort of dire consequence as a result of not achieving said win.What was the dire consequence of today’s result? As far as I can tell, we are further away from the drop than we were before the day started.
The dire consequence is, if we now lose the games against the bigger budgets in this season, which we did when we lost to Wrexham, Saints, Stoke, Coventry, Boro, and then still don't pick up the points against the teams around us, we are down.
Prevention is better than cure. We only don't look that bad today, because Norwich lost, Pompey & Oxford were postponed. Pompey could have been 1 behind us today.
We cannot keep relying on other teams being s**t, we need to win games of football, so how are the favourable fixtures not must wins?
You are taking it far too literal. You must realise the idea of projections, expectations etc and that I know we aren't relegated tonight?
Anyway, dreadful second half. Just Sheffield United, Derby and Millwall up next. Sure we will pick up 9 points to make up for it.
I can’t tell if this is trolling on your part, or maybe it’s just another example of how words like literally are no longer used in a literal sense.
It was literally a must win game.
You apply that exact same logic here. On paper, right now, and our form, suggests, we cannot beat the teams with bigger budgets, so we need to pick points up in these games, to avoid the drop, because chances are, there are a multiple number of games where we can probably expect 0 points.
All there is to it.
All good though, win 1 in 10 again, and say none of them are must wins again, sure the table will look dandy.At the top you have to keep winning to keep up the pace. At the bottom a point per game generally keeps you in the race, which is exactly what we’ve achieved the last few weeks.
We’ve won 1 in 10. Blackburn have won 1 in 10. Oxford have won 2 in 13.None of these teams are racing past us. No individual game is a must win when you want to avoid getting relegated. Because you only need to win about 3 in 10, against whoever you can get them, to be safe.
All you've done now is demonstrate that we are only staying afloat as other teams can't capitalise. Fingers crossed it stays that way, but it isn't realistic.
It's all good, respectfully, you're living in America and watching games on a VPN, it's easier to watch Charlton lose from afar, I know this as someone who has been a long distance addick. It's frustrating, but easier to have a measured head when you aren't bleeding as much time and money into it.
Then of course I'm bound to point out that you are also seeking to recover some of the "bleeding money", are you not? That's OK per se by me, a lot of people like your work, but it's the nature of vlogging generally that it seeks to create immediate extreme reactions from an audience rather than a more measured viewpoint. So you are in the kitchen, creating some heat, not sure you can complain about the heat too much.
When I was long distance from Charlton and we lost, I'd just ask my ex if she fancied a roll around or I'd go for a tug, can't exactly do that at the Stadium, instead a 3 or so hour minimum journey home awaits.
The money made from YouTube isn't even worth mentioning most of the time tbh, if a video has less than 3-4k views, you'd be lucky to pay for a Maccies, even then, depends how long people watched.
It's not about handling the heat, don't mind people in person or opposition fans, just get irate at the petty shite on here.
You state as fact things that aren't fact, according to very many of the best, knowledgeable level headed posters.
When many posters disagree, you then reply to every dissenter for days on end, arguing that you're correct and that they are wrong. You evidence this by a series of irrelevant and ill thought out comparisons.
You also often say that you were only joking when many disagree or your posts aren't meant to be taken literally.
If you didn't post your opinions dressed up as fact and allowed other posters to disagree, there would be no petty shite.
Apologies, I'm just trying to explain (but not expecting to be successful).
Be honest, you love it. I've lost count how many times you quote my posts. If I was posting under a different username and wrote the exact same posts, you would probably just ignore them.
Have to highlight stuff like this as what's the relevance here? I've said before, this forum is the lego movie "everything is awesome"
Imagine if I quoted every post I disagree with (thousands btw) but I don't. I say it how it is, Pompey, Norwich, Oxford etc were must win games as the consequences are, we now need to pick up points vs better teams as if we don't and they do, we go down. We also now need to make sure we beat them at home whereas a draw was fine before, we can't allow them both to 4 point us, unless all the teams below us carry on being shit and our form of 6 points? From the last available 33 is enough to keep us up.
Basically, you are wasting your breath. I stopped posting for this exact reason, the circle jerk on here is tiresome. "We all said this so it must be right, you should stop posting now" is more or less how you dress your posts up.1
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