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POST-MATCH THREAD: Blackburn Rovers v Charlton Athletic: Sunday 4th January 2026: KO 15:00
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Absolutely spot on. I thought we would struggle from game one but NJ got the ‘team is stronger than any individuals’ ethic working in the first part of the season when the big guns were still finding their feet. We have one of the smallest player budgets in the league and very few Championship quality players. Personally I don’t think there’s many managers who would do better than NJ, be careful what you wish forsirjohnhumphrey said:I’ve said it previously and I’ll say it again - although I get that it’s a simplistic and relatively unemotive position to take.
We are a bottom six team/squad/club in this league. More realistically bottom three. This is mainly due to the quality and depth of our squad. How many of them would start for a top half team in this division?Jones and Ramsay maybe?
Edwards when fit?
Bell, perhaps at a push.
None of the others would. Not Kelman, not Leaburn, not Knibbs, not Carey, not Bree, not Berry, not Coventry, not Docherty, not JRC…
It’s a squad that would probably be top 6 in league one. It relies on the sum of its parts rather than individuals. It’s made up of free transfers, experienced yet older players, and signings from league one. Plus some that have come through the youth set up.
This will show on the pitch in terms of decision making, moments of quality, game management etc.
A glut of injuries like we’ve just experienced will challenge us. We haven’t got players worth 5 million plus on our bench. We have Fullah, Anderson etc.
And dropping points against teams around us is hugely frustrating - if we get home wins against Pompey and Norwich and get something away at Oxford then our record against them will be ok (plus the four points we’ve taken off Blackburn)
A long way to go with it all in our own hands given the number of home games we have. And hopefully annoying days like today will be tempered by some surprise gained points against those above us.
Saying that, we really should’ve not let Leaburn leave the field without a sub ready to come on. To concede with just ten men on the pitch and the formation in disarray was completely preventable.10 -
One further point about NJ (and I really am a fan of his for what he has done for the club) so just an observation......
Some have commented here about how some players (Carey in particular) are making poor choices when going forward.
We all see what NJ is like on the touchline during games. He kicks every ball and tells players where to throw it in and is always directing things very forcefully and vocally.
I can only imagine what he is like on the training ground!
My theory is that our players may be over directed and managed and they live in fear of not doing what NJ has asked of them even if it has gone well occasionally.
So the result can often be a safe pass rather than a more adventurous one, a backwards pass rather than a forwards pass. In general their confidence is shot and they live in fear of making a mistake.
Maybe NJ's great strength of being absolutely in charge and directorial in approach and his insistance on a system, is also his weakness in that some players are over managed to the point of being scared of taking risks.
OK end of theory. I am sure I will get pelters for daring to say anything about NJ but hey-ho.........
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100% agreed - tv is dictating when we play our football matches and there is zero regard for those that really matter - the fans that attend the games. Even the players and managers benefit indirectly from the tv companies but what do the fans that actually attend get for it? a 400 mile round trip on a freezing cold day on a sunday with no trains and first day back to work in the morning - its absolutely shocking how we allow this sort of thing in our country.Bailey said:
Totally agree Prague but what chance is there of holding these people to account, most of them have never played the game at any level probably spent most of their holiday at home with their families. You may know better than me how much input the clubs have on the fixture list but it's time the clubs in the EFL started to demand a say. I honestly feel that the EFL could lose their top division to a better offer from the Premier with a reduction in the number of clubs, 46 games in this standard is simply ridiculous and if nobody has bothered to tell the EFL, a lot of supporters are struggling to pay their energy bills let alone spend £100's on eight games in a month.PragueAddick said:It‘s no wonder Coventry looked knackered, is it? He had played every minute of this ridiculous period of games, three of the four being away games with all the associated travel. As Louis Mendez said to Rich Crawley, “we’re knackered with all the travel, and we just watch the games”.The administration of English football is absolute shit. Its about time we knew the names of the top people in the relevant organisations who create these ridiculous fixture lists, and other crap like the added time pot luck or the linos who are apparently told to ignore blatant fouls right in front of their eyes. They deserve to share the load of criticism from fans which currently goes 100% to players and managers, because they are the visible ones.EDIT: this rant was prompted by NJ’s own, questioning whether other clubs have had the same imbalance of home/away fixtures. He’s right, as it turns out. We have played 14 away games, whereas Pompey have played only 11, and they were due at home today. That should not happen. It is not fair on clubs or the fans. Those responsible should be named and held to account.2 -
Where do you think we will be if we go another 10 games with 1 win?Callumcafc said:
Brother, for the last time - these are not the same thing!!!Braziliance said:Charlton43 said:Think most would’ve taken a point before the game.If we can get a win against either Sheffield or Derby doesn’t look like a bad block of 4 games points wise.Love Macca for the play off final but he’s got to go now. Same as Bez and Doc, we need proper championship quality.
I genuinely reckon, I spoke to 50 Charlton fans today at the game, maybe more, not one of them said they'd be happy with a point, and most said it was a must win (35+ maybe) and the rest a not lose.
My poll on twitter with over 150 votes returned it as a 76% must win/6 pointer.
I think it's insanity to be happy with/ taken draw in the circumstances, especially with how it happened being 2 up.
Anyway, on to the next free hit/must win/ must not lose/ doesn't matter that much as we are 4-7 points safe / we are lucky to be here so enjoy the moment.
“Must win” implies some sort of dire consequence as a result of not achieving said win.What was the dire consequence of today’s result? As far as I can tell, we are further away from the drop than we were before the day started.
The dire consequence is, if we now lose the games against the bigger budgets in this season, which we did when we lost to Wrexham, Saints, Stoke, Coventry, Boro, and then still don't pick up the points against the teams around us, we are down.
Prevention is better than cure. We only don't look that bad today, because Norwich lost, Pompey & Oxford were postponed. Pompey could have been 1 behind us today.
We cannot keep relying on other teams being s**t, we need to win games of football, so how are the favourable fixtures not must wins?
You are taking it far too literal. You must realise the idea of projections, expectations etc and that I know we aren't relegated tonight?
Anyway, dreadful second half. Just Sheffield United, Derby and Millwall up next. Sure we will pick up 9 points to make up for it.5 -
EVERY
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3 would have been better but 1 is better than 0
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Gillesephy is ok with either Bell or Edwards ahead of him. He is really exposed with a non specialist wing back in front of him.Its never certain the result but moving Bell over & bringing Gillesephy on exposed Gillesephy & didn’t suit TC. Its not worked before & not sure 🤔 why NJ made that change.
The team lost balance. It adversely impacted x3 players confidence. IMO it contributed to loss of points.3 -
Just got back. At least the game was on. Had a little bit of hope first half. Really wanted Leaburn to score he really put in a shift today. Massive credit to our traveling fans 26 -
There’s no point in predicting where we may get points, that’s been proven already this season, but continually throwing them away when they are in the palm of our hands is concerning. Let’s see what reinforcements we get in by the time we play Sheffield utd. Also a bit of time for NJ to reflect on what may be going wrong.Braziliance said:
Where do you think we will be if we go another 10 games with 1 win?Callumcafc said:
Brother, for the last time - these are not the same thing!!!Braziliance said:Charlton43 said:Think most would’ve taken a point before the game.If we can get a win against either Sheffield or Derby doesn’t look like a bad block of 4 games points wise.Love Macca for the play off final but he’s got to go now. Same as Bez and Doc, we need proper championship quality.
I genuinely reckon, I spoke to 50 Charlton fans today at the game, maybe more, not one of them said they'd be happy with a point, and most said it was a must win (35+ maybe) and the rest a not lose.
My poll on twitter with over 150 votes returned it as a 76% must win/6 pointer.
I think it's insanity to be happy with/ taken draw in the circumstances, especially with how it happened being 2 up.
Anyway, on to the next free hit/must win/ must not lose/ doesn't matter that much as we are 4-7 points safe / we are lucky to be here so enjoy the moment.
“Must win” implies some sort of dire consequence as a result of not achieving said win.What was the dire consequence of today’s result? As far as I can tell, we are further away from the drop than we were before the day started.
The dire consequence is, if we now lose the games against the bigger budgets in this season, which we did when we lost to Wrexham, Saints, Stoke, Coventry, Boro, and then still don't pick up the points against the teams around us, we are down.
Prevention is better than cure. We only don't look that bad today, because Norwich lost, Pompey & Oxford were postponed. Pompey could have been 1 behind us today.
We cannot keep relying on other teams being s**t, we need to win games of football, so how are the favourable fixtures not must wins?
You are taking it far too literal. You must realise the idea of projections, expectations etc and that I know we aren't relegated tonight?
Anyway, dreadful second half. Just Sheffield United, Derby and Millwall up next. Sure we will pick up 9 points to make up for it.2 -
The idea of a MUST WIN game is that you MUST WIN that game. You aren’t considering context of other games later in the season.Braziliance said:
Where do you think we will be if we go another 10 games with 1 win?Callumcafc said:
Brother, for the last time - these are not the same thing!!!Braziliance said:Charlton43 said:Think most would’ve taken a point before the game.If we can get a win against either Sheffield or Derby doesn’t look like a bad block of 4 games points wise.Love Macca for the play off final but he’s got to go now. Same as Bez and Doc, we need proper championship quality.
I genuinely reckon, I spoke to 50 Charlton fans today at the game, maybe more, not one of them said they'd be happy with a point, and most said it was a must win (35+ maybe) and the rest a not lose.
My poll on twitter with over 150 votes returned it as a 76% must win/6 pointer.
I think it's insanity to be happy with/ taken draw in the circumstances, especially with how it happened being 2 up.
Anyway, on to the next free hit/must win/ must not lose/ doesn't matter that much as we are 4-7 points safe / we are lucky to be here so enjoy the moment.
“Must win” implies some sort of dire consequence as a result of not achieving said win.What was the dire consequence of today’s result? As far as I can tell, we are further away from the drop than we were before the day started.
The dire consequence is, if we now lose the games against the bigger budgets in this season, which we did when we lost to Wrexham, Saints, Stoke, Coventry, Boro, and then still don't pick up the points against the teams around us, we are down.
Prevention is better than cure. We only don't look that bad today, because Norwich lost, Pompey & Oxford were postponed. Pompey could have been 1 behind us today.
We cannot keep relying on other teams being s**t, we need to win games of football, so how are the favourable fixtures not must wins?
You are taking it far too literal. You must realise the idea of projections, expectations etc and that I know we aren't relegated tonight?
Anyway, dreadful second half. Just Sheffield United, Derby and Millwall up next. Sure we will pick up 9 points to make up for it.
I can’t tell if this is trolling on your part, or maybe it’s just another example of how words like literally are no longer used in a literal sense.
It was literally a must win game.1 -
Wasn't, surely? Or am I getting whooshed here?Callumcafc said:
The idea of a MUST WIN game is that you MUST WIN that game. You aren’t considering context of other games later in the season.Braziliance said:
Where do you think we will be if we go another 10 games with 1 win?Callumcafc said:
Brother, for the last time - these are not the same thing!!!Braziliance said:Charlton43 said:Think most would’ve taken a point before the game.If we can get a win against either Sheffield or Derby doesn’t look like a bad block of 4 games points wise.Love Macca for the play off final but he’s got to go now. Same as Bez and Doc, we need proper championship quality.
I genuinely reckon, I spoke to 50 Charlton fans today at the game, maybe more, not one of them said they'd be happy with a point, and most said it was a must win (35+ maybe) and the rest a not lose.
My poll on twitter with over 150 votes returned it as a 76% must win/6 pointer.
I think it's insanity to be happy with/ taken draw in the circumstances, especially with how it happened being 2 up.
Anyway, on to the next free hit/must win/ must not lose/ doesn't matter that much as we are 4-7 points safe / we are lucky to be here so enjoy the moment.
“Must win” implies some sort of dire consequence as a result of not achieving said win.What was the dire consequence of today’s result? As far as I can tell, we are further away from the drop than we were before the day started.
The dire consequence is, if we now lose the games against the bigger budgets in this season, which we did when we lost to Wrexham, Saints, Stoke, Coventry, Boro, and then still don't pick up the points against the teams around us, we are down.
Prevention is better than cure. We only don't look that bad today, because Norwich lost, Pompey & Oxford were postponed. Pompey could have been 1 behind us today.
We cannot keep relying on other teams being s**t, we need to win games of football, so how are the favourable fixtures not must wins?
You are taking it far too literal. You must realise the idea of projections, expectations etc and that I know we aren't relegated tonight?
Anyway, dreadful second half. Just Sheffield United, Derby and Millwall up next. Sure we will pick up 9 points to make up for it.
I can’t tell if this is trolling on your part, or maybe it’s just another example of how words like literally are no longer used in a literal sense.
It was literally a must win game.2 -
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Literally whooshed :-)aliwibble said:
Wasn't, surely? Or am I getting whooshed here?Callumcafc said:
The idea of a MUST WIN game is that you MUST WIN that game. You aren’t considering context of other games later in the season.Braziliance said:
Where do you think we will be if we go another 10 games with 1 win?Callumcafc said:
Brother, for the last time - these are not the same thing!!!Braziliance said:Charlton43 said:Think most would’ve taken a point before the game.If we can get a win against either Sheffield or Derby doesn’t look like a bad block of 4 games points wise.Love Macca for the play off final but he’s got to go now. Same as Bez and Doc, we need proper championship quality.
I genuinely reckon, I spoke to 50 Charlton fans today at the game, maybe more, not one of them said they'd be happy with a point, and most said it was a must win (35+ maybe) and the rest a not lose.
My poll on twitter with over 150 votes returned it as a 76% must win/6 pointer.
I think it's insanity to be happy with/ taken draw in the circumstances, especially with how it happened being 2 up.
Anyway, on to the next free hit/must win/ must not lose/ doesn't matter that much as we are 4-7 points safe / we are lucky to be here so enjoy the moment.
“Must win” implies some sort of dire consequence as a result of not achieving said win.What was the dire consequence of today’s result? As far as I can tell, we are further away from the drop than we were before the day started.
The dire consequence is, if we now lose the games against the bigger budgets in this season, which we did when we lost to Wrexham, Saints, Stoke, Coventry, Boro, and then still don't pick up the points against the teams around us, we are down.
Prevention is better than cure. We only don't look that bad today, because Norwich lost, Pompey & Oxford were postponed. Pompey could have been 1 behind us today.
We cannot keep relying on other teams being s**t, we need to win games of football, so how are the favourable fixtures not must wins?
You are taking it far too literal. You must realise the idea of projections, expectations etc and that I know we aren't relegated tonight?
Anyway, dreadful second half. Just Sheffield United, Derby and Millwall up next. Sure we will pick up 9 points to make up for it.
I can’t tell if this is trolling on your part, or maybe it’s just another example of how words like literally are no longer used in a literal sense.
It was literally a must win game.1 -
If Man City play Arsenal 23 games in, or Real Madrid play Barca 23 games in etc, and they're both in a title race, they are must win games, as the assumption is, both teams in the title race, are too good to drop points against lesser teams.Callumcafc said:
The idea of a MUST WIN game is that you MUST WIN that game. You aren’t considering context of other games later in the season.Braziliance said:
Where do you think we will be if we go another 10 games with 1 win?Callumcafc said:
Brother, for the last time - these are not the same thing!!!Braziliance said:Charlton43 said:Think most would’ve taken a point before the game.If we can get a win against either Sheffield or Derby doesn’t look like a bad block of 4 games points wise.Love Macca for the play off final but he’s got to go now. Same as Bez and Doc, we need proper championship quality.
I genuinely reckon, I spoke to 50 Charlton fans today at the game, maybe more, not one of them said they'd be happy with a point, and most said it was a must win (35+ maybe) and the rest a not lose.
My poll on twitter with over 150 votes returned it as a 76% must win/6 pointer.
I think it's insanity to be happy with/ taken draw in the circumstances, especially with how it happened being 2 up.
Anyway, on to the next free hit/must win/ must not lose/ doesn't matter that much as we are 4-7 points safe / we are lucky to be here so enjoy the moment.
“Must win” implies some sort of dire consequence as a result of not achieving said win.What was the dire consequence of today’s result? As far as I can tell, we are further away from the drop than we were before the day started.
The dire consequence is, if we now lose the games against the bigger budgets in this season, which we did when we lost to Wrexham, Saints, Stoke, Coventry, Boro, and then still don't pick up the points against the teams around us, we are down.
Prevention is better than cure. We only don't look that bad today, because Norwich lost, Pompey & Oxford were postponed. Pompey could have been 1 behind us today.
We cannot keep relying on other teams being s**t, we need to win games of football, so how are the favourable fixtures not must wins?
You are taking it far too literal. You must realise the idea of projections, expectations etc and that I know we aren't relegated tonight?
Anyway, dreadful second half. Just Sheffield United, Derby and Millwall up next. Sure we will pick up 9 points to make up for it.
I can’t tell if this is trolling on your part, or maybe it’s just another example of how words like literally are no longer used in a literal sense.
It was literally a must win game.
You apply that exact same logic here. On paper, right now, and our form, suggests, we cannot beat the teams with bigger budgets, so we need to pick points up in these games, to avoid the drop, because chances are, there are a multiple number of games where we can probably expect 0 points.
All there is to it.
All good though, win 1 in 10 again, and say none of them are must wins again, sure the table will look dandy.
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Doc was far from awful. Campbell wasn't awful either.801912601 said:Thought Bell, Leaburn, Jones & Kelman were good, Gillespie, Carey, Doc & Campbell were awful and the remainder ok against a poor Blackburn team. Couldn’t keep the ball second half mainly due to crap hopeful balls pumped forward which kept us under pressure. Gillespie the most guilty of this and he went to sleep after half clearing in the lead up to their 2nd. Didn’t help we only had 10 on the pitch at time either4 -
Frankly I couldn't give a fish's left tit about the Chelsea match.MrBurns said:Please don't play Bell against Chelsea and give him a rest. We really can't afford to lose him to injury too
Play the kids - get tonked who cares? Survival in the Championship is everything for us this season. Count the cash from the match and move on........5 -
Have a look at the louis mendez graph this time last year and see what the projection was and how many must win games we had lost if we wanted to get promoted - loads - what happened? we got promoted. Football isn't an exact science. Teams go on runs, teams drop out of form, teams beat those their not expected to and lose to those they should beat. I'll take the fact we have half a season to go, a manager who is renowned for stronger second half's of seasons, the fact we have well over half of the points needed and more games at home than away to come, the fact players are coming back from injury, we have signings already done with more to come overseen by a manager who has a proven track record of knowing what is needed.Try to look at the bigger picture and stop looking at he graph from the last 10 games. I've seen many relegation set ups and this isn't one.9
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Oh god - what have i started? I think this all started when I said Pompey was must win. Wish I hadn’t said anything now!
There is definitely some over analysing of the word must.I know for a fact the management have a graph across the season as the second half unwinds and it will have targets for points per game and final total to stay up.
There is no way we had one point against the last three games. Oxford we would have been par, and now for every point dropped we are dropping further below par.
The question should really be where do people want to aim to get 4-6 points back? For me, and like @Braziliance says prevention is better than cure, i would rather not be chasing points from Millwall away, Boro away etc. But we will now likely have to do that to stay on par.
Had we have nicked an unexpected win vs Cov then this may have switched to a point.
As it is I set high targets (across my whole life - work life, home life and football life). We had to win that in order to avoid a potential problem down the line and we didn’t1 -
IF we were to stay up, would you concede that they weren't must win games?Braziliance said:
If Man City play Arsenal 23 games in, or Real Madrid play Barca 23 games in etc, and they're both in a title race, they are must win games, as the assumption is, both teams in the title race, are too good to drop points against lesser teams.Callumcafc said:
The idea of a MUST WIN game is that you MUST WIN that game. You aren’t considering context of other games later in the season.Braziliance said:
Where do you think we will be if we go another 10 games with 1 win?Callumcafc said:
Brother, for the last time - these are not the same thing!!!Braziliance said:Charlton43 said:Think most would’ve taken a point before the game.If we can get a win against either Sheffield or Derby doesn’t look like a bad block of 4 games points wise.Love Macca for the play off final but he’s got to go now. Same as Bez and Doc, we need proper championship quality.
I genuinely reckon, I spoke to 50 Charlton fans today at the game, maybe more, not one of them said they'd be happy with a point, and most said it was a must win (35+ maybe) and the rest a not lose.
My poll on twitter with over 150 votes returned it as a 76% must win/6 pointer.
I think it's insanity to be happy with/ taken draw in the circumstances, especially with how it happened being 2 up.
Anyway, on to the next free hit/must win/ must not lose/ doesn't matter that much as we are 4-7 points safe / we are lucky to be here so enjoy the moment.
“Must win” implies some sort of dire consequence as a result of not achieving said win.What was the dire consequence of today’s result? As far as I can tell, we are further away from the drop than we were before the day started.
The dire consequence is, if we now lose the games against the bigger budgets in this season, which we did when we lost to Wrexham, Saints, Stoke, Coventry, Boro, and then still don't pick up the points against the teams around us, we are down.
Prevention is better than cure. We only don't look that bad today, because Norwich lost, Pompey & Oxford were postponed. Pompey could have been 1 behind us today.
We cannot keep relying on other teams being s**t, we need to win games of football, so how are the favourable fixtures not must wins?
You are taking it far too literal. You must realise the idea of projections, expectations etc and that I know we aren't relegated tonight?
Anyway, dreadful second half. Just Sheffield United, Derby and Millwall up next. Sure we will pick up 9 points to make up for it.
I can’t tell if this is trolling on your part, or maybe it’s just another example of how words like literally are no longer used in a literal sense.
It was literally a must win game.
You apply that exact same logic here. On paper, right now, and our form, suggests, we cannot beat the teams with bigger budgets, so we need to pick points up in these games, to avoid the drop, because chances are, there are a multiple number of games where we can probably expect 0 points.
All there is to it.
All good though, win 1 in 10 again, and say none of them are must wins again, sure the table will look dandy.1 -
did they have us down to win at Ipswich or Sheffield Utd?DamoNorthStand said:Oh god - what have i started? I think this all started when I said Pompey was must win. Wish I hadn’t said anything now!
There is definitely some over analysing of the word must.I know for a fact the management have a graph across the season as the second half unwinds and it will have targets for points per game and final total to stay up.
There is no way we had one point against the last three games. Oxford we would have been par, and now for every point dropped we are dropping further below par.
The question should really be where do people want to aim to get 4-6 points back? For me, and like @Braziliance says prevention is better than cure, i would rather not be chasing points from Millwall away, Boro away etc. But we will now likely have to do that to stay on par.
Had we have nicked an unexpected win vs Cov then this may have switched to a point.
As it is I set high targets (across my whole life - work life, home life and football life). We had to win that in order to avoid a potential problem down the line and we didn’t1 -
Absolutely, I am not insane. Circumstantial though of course.Talal said:
IF we were to stay up, would you concede that they weren't must win games?Braziliance said:
If Man City play Arsenal 23 games in, or Real Madrid play Barca 23 games in etc, and they're both in a title race, they are must win games, as the assumption is, both teams in the title race, are too good to drop points against lesser teams.Callumcafc said:
The idea of a MUST WIN game is that you MUST WIN that game. You aren’t considering context of other games later in the season.Braziliance said:
Where do you think we will be if we go another 10 games with 1 win?Callumcafc said:
Brother, for the last time - these are not the same thing!!!Braziliance said:Charlton43 said:Think most would’ve taken a point before the game.If we can get a win against either Sheffield or Derby doesn’t look like a bad block of 4 games points wise.Love Macca for the play off final but he’s got to go now. Same as Bez and Doc, we need proper championship quality.
I genuinely reckon, I spoke to 50 Charlton fans today at the game, maybe more, not one of them said they'd be happy with a point, and most said it was a must win (35+ maybe) and the rest a not lose.
My poll on twitter with over 150 votes returned it as a 76% must win/6 pointer.
I think it's insanity to be happy with/ taken draw in the circumstances, especially with how it happened being 2 up.
Anyway, on to the next free hit/must win/ must not lose/ doesn't matter that much as we are 4-7 points safe / we are lucky to be here so enjoy the moment.
“Must win” implies some sort of dire consequence as a result of not achieving said win.What was the dire consequence of today’s result? As far as I can tell, we are further away from the drop than we were before the day started.
The dire consequence is, if we now lose the games against the bigger budgets in this season, which we did when we lost to Wrexham, Saints, Stoke, Coventry, Boro, and then still don't pick up the points against the teams around us, we are down.
Prevention is better than cure. We only don't look that bad today, because Norwich lost, Pompey & Oxford were postponed. Pompey could have been 1 behind us today.
We cannot keep relying on other teams being s**t, we need to win games of football, so how are the favourable fixtures not must wins?
You are taking it far too literal. You must realise the idea of projections, expectations etc and that I know we aren't relegated tonight?
Anyway, dreadful second half. Just Sheffield United, Derby and Millwall up next. Sure we will pick up 9 points to make up for it.
I can’t tell if this is trolling on your part, or maybe it’s just another example of how words like literally are no longer used in a literal sense.
It was literally a must win game.
You apply that exact same logic here. On paper, right now, and our form, suggests, we cannot beat the teams with bigger budgets, so we need to pick points up in these games, to avoid the drop, because chances are, there are a multiple number of games where we can probably expect 0 points.
All there is to it.
All good though, win 1 in 10 again, and say none of them are must wins again, sure the table will look dandy.
To be honest, @DamoNorthStand just broke it down perfectly, and I can go on with my evening now safely knowing at least one person gets it. Cheers Damo.
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Agree to a point but I don't think a tonking does us any favours either. Confidence will be fragile in the squad as it isCharltonManor1966 said:
Frankly I couldn't give a fish's left tit about the Chelsea match.MrBurns said:Please don't play Bell against Chelsea and give him a rest. We really can't afford to lose him to injury too
Play the kids - get tonked who cares? Survival in the Championship is everything for us this season. Count the cash from the match and move on........1 -
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I didn't watch the match. For those who did - for the hour Costello played did he offer glimpses of what we saw against Coventry? Not wanting to dig him out, I don't know how he played, just curious how he did. Apologies if already mentioned on here.0
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No not really, tidy in parts but not the same impact.Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch said:I didn't watch the match. For those who did - for the hour Costello played did he offer glimpses of what we saw against Coventry? Not wanting to dig him out, I don't know how he played, just curious how he did. Apologies if already mentioned on here.2 -
Had a bright first 3 minutes and then I thought he was pretty meh but he must be shatteredEr_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch said:I didn't watch the match. For those who did - for the hour Costello played did he offer glimpses of what we saw against Coventry? Not wanting to dig him out, I don't know how he played, just curious how he did. Apologies if already mentioned on here.7 -
I think there is something in this. I am not - and don't claim to be - 'in the know', but l do know from someone who was there that on a recent social occasion he was telling players what shots to make and how they should do it. They were playing pool in a bar.CharltonManor1966 said:One further point about NJ (and I really am a fan of his for what he has done for the club) so just an observation......
Some have commented here about how some players (Carey in particular) are making poor choices when going forward.
We all see what NJ is like on the touchline during games. He kicks every ball and tells players where to throw it in and is always directing things very forcefully and vocally.
I can only imagine what he is like on the training ground!
My theory is that our players may be over directed and managed and they live in fear of not doing what NJ has asked of them even if it has gone well occasionally.
So the result can often be a safe pass rather than a more adventurous one, a backwards pass rather than a forwards pass. In general their confidence is shot and they live in fear of making a mistake.
Maybe NJ's great strength of being absolutely in charge and directorial in approach and his insistance on a system, is also his weakness in that some players are over managed to the point of being scared of taking risks.
OK end of theory. I am sure I will get pelters for daring to say anything about NJ but hey-ho.........4 -
NJ cost us here, everyone knew moving Bell and putting TC and macca down the left was a recipe for disaster, surely Gough can't be that bad that NJ had to alter the entire back line to not bring him on.6
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Damned if you do damned if you don’t with that one I think tbf to jones. If he’s brought the kid on and he’d flunked the same questions would be being askedIR94 said:NJ cost us here, everyone knew moving Bell and putting TC and macca down the left was a recipe for disaster, surely Gough can't be that bad that NJ had to alter the entire back line to not bring him on.7 -
It might not look it watching that second half, but I think we are quite close to being good again. Just think in a few weeks time we could be lining up with something like
Kaminski
Ramsay Jones Bell
Bree Costello Coventry NEW
Carey
Leaburn Kelman
With TC, Godden and a new striker to come on from the bench, plus any other new signings we make that could strengthen the starting eleven.We are not a good team at the moment because we have some glaring holes in our backline due to missing personnel. The players we do have are then having to play every minute because we have no one else, which then affects their performance late in games. Once this settles down we will be fine
Last season was similar, and I think it might be a Jones thing due to the intensity we play at and smaller squad depth. We struggle when there are lots of games in a short period, we’ve been poor in most of the later games in 3-game weeks. Last season we were very good in the second half of the season, the second half of the season has less midweek games, more recovery time and less need for rotation. We just need to do the right recruitment so that Jones can land on a settled team for February-May and then we will be absolutely fine like we were last season6 -
With youNabySarr said:It might not look it watching that second half, but I think we are quite close to being good again. Just think in a few weeks time we could be lining up with something like
Kaminski
Ramsay Jones Bell
Bree Costello Coventry NEW
Carey
Leaburn Kelman
With TC, Godden and a new striker to come on from the bench, plus any other new signings we make that could strengthen the starting eleven.We are not a good team at the moment because we have some glaring holes in our backline due to missing personnel. The players we do have are then having to play every minute because we have no one else, which then affects their performance late in games. Once this settles down we will be fine
Last season was similar, and I think it might be a Jones thing due to the intensity we play at and smaller squad depth. We struggle when there are lots of games in a short period, we’ve been poor in most of the later games in 3-game weeks. Last season we were very good in the second half of the season, the second half of the season has less midweek games, more recovery time and less need for rotation. We just need to do the right recruitment so that Jones can land on a settled team for February-May and then we will be absolutely fine like we were last season1 -
I really wish NJ hadn’t said this!
“We’re disappointed. This is Blackburn Rovers, they’ve been a Championship side for a long time and we’re coming here and we’re devastated with a point, so it shows we’ve come a long way.”
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Only two of that eleven you named weren’t available today and we drew 2-2 to one of the worst teams in the leagueNabySarr said:It might not look it watching that second half, but I think we are quite close to being good again. Just think in a few weeks time we could be lining up with something like
Kaminski
Ramsay Jones Bell
Bree Costello Coventry NEW
Carey
Leaburn Kelman
With TC, Godden and a new striker to come on from the bench, plus any other new signings we make that could strengthen the starting eleven.We are not a good team at the moment because we have some glaring holes in our backline due to missing personnel. The players we do have are then having to play every minute because we have no one else, which then affects their performance late in games. Once this settles down we will be fine
Last season was similar, and I think it might be a Jones thing due to the intensity we play at and smaller squad depth. We struggle when there are lots of games in a short period, we’ve been poor in most of the later games in 3-game weeks. Last season we were very good in the second half of the season, the second half of the season has less midweek games, more recovery time and less need for rotation. We just need to do the right recruitment so that Jones can land on a settled team for February-May and then we will be absolutely fine like we were last season
Is a left back and Ramsay coming back really going to be the difference between shit and shit hot?2
