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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 20,223
    sam3110 said:
    MrBurns said:
    Sheffield Wednesday have signed Louie Barry
    He really has flattered to deceive. Good spells on loan at Stockport aside, he's done nothing anywhere else, so I'm not surprised he's dropped a division, just surprised it's not to actually sign for Stockport 
    Change of manager and rumours of a cut budget at Stockport 
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 12,857
    edited July 9
    Is this De Keersmaecker actually any good or has his stock been vastly inflated on this thread? Can't say I remember much about him last season.


  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,504
    bit of both I think
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 24,540
    Is this De Keersmaecker actually any good or has his stock been vastly inflated on this thread? Can't say I remember much about him last season.


    He's better than we currently have so if there's a possibility sign him we should be interested. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 100,448
    Especially as Oxford will be needing to sell assets what with them now under a transfer embargo
  • PeaksAndValleys
    PeaksAndValleys Posts: 232
    Pretty sure George Elek (Oxford fan on NTT20 who tends to have pretty sensible opinions) rated him highly
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 7,693
    edited July 9
    Pretty sure George Elek (Oxford fan on NTT20 who tends to have pretty sensible opinions) rated him highly
    I'm watching the England game on Saturday at the same place as George Elek & Ali Maxwell. If I get the chance i'll enquire.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 20,223
    Oxford fans seem to think it’s an administrative error rather than a financial issue so could mean nothing. Would still expect BDK and Mills will want to leave though 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 72,554
    Is this De Keersmaecker actually any good or has his stock been vastly inflated on this thread? Can't say I remember much about him last season.


    He's better than we currently have so if there's a possibility sign him we should be interested. 
    And signing the best players from teams just relegated is an obvious way for a lower team in the Championship to strengthen.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,811
    Is this De Keersmaecker actually any good or has his stock been vastly inflated on this thread? Can't say I remember much about him last season.


    Yes. He would be an unbelievable signing for us, unfortunately he’s too good so we’ve probably got no chance of signing him. A championship club with a larger wallet than us will sign him 

    These stats are all per 90 and benchmarked against other championship central midfielders

    In terms of creativity he is right up there in the top 20% for chances created and top 5% for big chances created. All while playing for a very poor Oxford side 


     
    But crucially, playing for Oxford he also put a shift in defensively and his defensive numbers are very good 



    He would basically be the perfect signing for our midfield. Adding creativity but not at a huge expense to our defensive strength. 

    I’ve said it before on this thread. We aren’t going to be able to sign him I don’t think, he will have better suitors. So we need to instead be looking into Europe and finding the next De Keersmacker, which although harder to find, is a lot more likely on our budget 

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  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 34,024
    De Keersmacker came from the same club in the Netherlands as Ivan Mesik.
  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,454
    De Keersmacker came from the same club in the Netherlands as Ivan Mesik.
    That must mean it’s happening, cue thread spending the next 5 pages talking about it.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,327
    Shame about Sykes. If rumours were to be believed, it sounded like he was a player we were interested in. 

    If true, I wonder if we got gazumped?

  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,811
    edited July 9
    Chunes said:
    If we start the new season with Coventry and Docherty still in the middle, that's going to be depressing. 
    That is reasonably likely. If we do sign a player from Europe later this month/early August it would be a bit of a risk to chuck them straight in to the eleven for the first game. There’s better value from abroad but it will take signings longer to adapt.

    Coventry and Docherty were fine at the start of last season, we were in the top 6 with that midfield. Hopefully we get some upgrades sorted soon but it’s not exactly a disaster if that’s our midfield against Derby 
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 8,817
    sam3110 said:
    sam3110 said:
    Several million on a loan fee? Who are we loaning in, Rafael Leao?!
    Prem league u21s will be on at least 30k a week, if their parent clubs want 50% of the wages covered they’d be one of the highest paid players in the club, that’s a lot of budget to blow on an unproven but skilful player who’s had limited first team experience. We picked up more bargains in January from Championship clubs who had in their minds had recruitment failures and money to burn. Coady, and Dykes must’ve been on and around £30k a week but at least had Championship experience. We only picked up Bree because his face didn’t fit, it’s rare to get someone of that quality and experience in the summer.
    But that's all besides the point, we aren't spending several million on loan fees, regardless.

    Even the example you gave, 15k a week for a year, is 780k, and that's wages, not a loan fee.
    no chance the average prem u21 player is on at least £30k a week. Halve that and you'll be nearer the mark. 
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 8,817
    Redhenry said:
    sam3110 said:
    Several million on a loan fee? Who are we loaning in, Rafael Leao?!
    Prem league u21s will be on at least 30k a week, if their parent clubs want 50% of the wages covered they’d be one of the highest paid players in the club, that’s a lot of budget to blow on an unproven but skilful player who’s had limited first team experience. We picked up more bargains in January from Championship clubs who had in their minds had recruitment failures and money to burn. Coady, and Dykes must’ve been on and around £30k a week but at least had Championship experience. We only picked up Bree because his face didn’t fit, it’s rare to get someone of that quality and experience in the summer.

    Maybe at Chelsea they will, think you're wide of the mark there
    not even at chelsea other than the odd exception 
  • PeaksAndValleys
    PeaksAndValleys Posts: 232
    Pretty sure George Elek (Oxford fan on NTT20 who tends to have pretty sensible opinions) rated him highly
    I'm watching the England game on Saturday at the same place as George Elek & Ali Maxwell. If I get the chance i'll enquire.
    Ah good work getting a ticket. I delayed and they got snapped up. Don't think our fallback venue will be as fun! 
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 16,440
    Chunes said:
    If we start the new season with Coventry and Docherty still in the middle, that's going to be depressing. 
    if we end the transfer window with them both still in it, then that will be depressing....

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  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,460
    I enjoy reading others opinions on transfers but do not expect anything to happen until everyone back to Charlton 
  • sam3110 said:
    sam3110 said:
    Several million on a loan fee? Who are we loaning in, Rafael Leao?!
    Prem league u21s will be on at least 30k a week, if their parent clubs want 50% of the wages covered they’d be one of the highest paid players in the club, that’s a lot of budget to blow on an unproven but skilful player who’s had limited first team experience. We picked up more bargains in January from Championship clubs who had in their minds had recruitment failures and money to burn. Coady, and Dykes must’ve been on and around £30k a week but at least had Championship experience. We only picked up Bree because his face didn’t fit, it’s rare to get someone of that quality and experience in the summer.
    But that's all besides the point, we aren't spending several million on loan fees, regardless.

    Even the example you gave, 15k a week for a year, is 780k, and that's wages, not a loan fee.
    Yeah, I didn’t say anything about fees, my point is even if we just pay half of a prem kids wages, they’d be one of the highest paid players in the club with very little first team experience, it’s a massive risk for a club with a limited budget. I think Jones wants championship experience and that is harder to come by in the summer window. 
  • DennisBooth
    DennisBooth Posts: 234
    Valley11 said:
    Shame about Sykes. If rumours were to be believed, it sounded like he was a player we were interested in. 

    If true, I wonder if we got gazumped?

    I think if it was a choice between us and Millwall, unless we offered more money,  you would choose an established Championship side who finished in a play off position.
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,504
    DOUCHER said:
    Redhenry said:
    sam3110 said:
    Several million on a loan fee? Who are we loaning in, Rafael Leao?!
    Prem league u21s will be on at least 30k a week, if their parent clubs want 50% of the wages covered they’d be one of the highest paid players in the club, that’s a lot of budget to blow on an unproven but skilful player who’s had limited first team experience. We picked up more bargains in January from Championship clubs who had in their minds had recruitment failures and money to burn. Coady, and Dykes must’ve been on and around £30k a week but at least had Championship experience. We only picked up Bree because his face didn’t fit, it’s rare to get someone of that quality and experience in the summer.

    Maybe at Chelsea they will, think you're wide of the mark there
    not even at chelsea other than the odd exception 
    Think he got info from Football Manager :)
  • Redhenry said:
    sam3110 said:
    Several million on a loan fee? Who are we loaning in, Rafael Leao?!
    Prem league u21s will be on at least 30k a week, if their parent clubs want 50% of the wages covered they’d be one of the highest paid players in the club, that’s a lot of budget to blow on an unproven but skilful player who’s had limited first team experience. We picked up more bargains in January from Championship clubs who had in their minds had recruitment failures and money to burn. Coady, and Dykes must’ve been on and around £30k a week but at least had Championship experience. We only picked up Bree because his face didn’t fit, it’s rare to get someone of that quality and experience in the summer.

    Maybe at Chelsea they will, think you're wide of the mark there
    Speculative guesswork from me, with your inside knowledge, how much does a ‘Chambers’ for instance cost to loan a week. What money are these kind of players on and what percentage does the loan club have to play?
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 51,284
    edited July 9
    Apart from maybe one that’s very high rated, I wouldn’t want us to take a chance and spend on biggish wages and loan fees on an untested Premier League kid. Any loans should be in the mould of Bree, Clarke and Coady. Bags of Championship experience is what we need. We’re already gambling on our three foreign imports and everyone else we sign needs to be tried and tested.
  • YannTheMann
    YannTheMann Posts: 1,445
    Asked my mate about Jamie Allen link and any updates and he said he's not heard anything about it since and thinks Allen may have a few offers lined up to consider, with some a little closer to home than London. I asked him if he heard of any other players being linked to us and he said he hasn't, again only going off what he's telling me so all to be taken with a pinch of salt 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 23,722
    sam3110 said:
    sam3110 said:
    Several million on a loan fee? Who are we loaning in, Rafael Leao?!
    Prem league u21s will be on at least 30k a week, if their parent clubs want 50% of the wages covered they’d be one of the highest paid players in the club, that’s a lot of budget to blow on an unproven but skilful player who’s had limited first team experience. We picked up more bargains in January from Championship clubs who had in their minds had recruitment failures and money to burn. Coady, and Dykes must’ve been on and around £30k a week but at least had Championship experience. We only picked up Bree because his face didn’t fit, it’s rare to get someone of that quality and experience in the summer.
    But that's all besides the point, we aren't spending several million on loan fees, regardless.

    Even the example you gave, 15k a week for a year, is 780k, and that's wages, not a loan fee.
    Yeah, I didn’t say anything about fees, my point is even if we just pay half of a prem kids wages, they’d be one of the highest paid players in the club with very little first team experience, it’s a massive risk for a club with a limited budget. I think Jones wants championship experience and that is harder to come by in the summer window. 
    But again they won't be, the under 21s on 30k a week already won't be going out on loan to Charlton, if they go on loan at all. 

    You vastly overestimate how much they're getting paid 
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,504
    Redhenry said:
    sam3110 said:
    Several million on a loan fee? Who are we loaning in, Rafael Leao?!
    Prem league u21s will be on at least 30k a week, if their parent clubs want 50% of the wages covered they’d be one of the highest paid players in the club, that’s a lot of budget to blow on an unproven but skilful player who’s had limited first team experience. We picked up more bargains in January from Championship clubs who had in their minds had recruitment failures and money to burn. Coady, and Dykes must’ve been on and around £30k a week but at least had Championship experience. We only picked up Bree because his face didn’t fit, it’s rare to get someone of that quality and experience in the summer.

    Maybe at Chelsea they will, think you're wide of the mark there
    Speculative guesswork from me, with your inside knowledge, how much does a ‘Chambers’ for instance cost to loan a week. What money are these kind of players on and what percentage does the loan club have to play?
    No idea tbh.
    What I do know tho, Agents have said in the past, it's hard to convince a young prem player to sign a contract for a lower league club on a lot less money after their prem deals expired, usually earning up to 20k a week. Then being offered 3.5k, some have refused to sign, then end up with nothing.

  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,603
    Wasn't Kasey Palmer on £15000  week at Chelsea or was that overblown?