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Charge to use Blackwall Tunnel

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  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,790
    jose said:
    I have credit on the Dartford charge just in case I find myself using that crossing.
    I wish there was a single simplified system to cover it all, ULEZ, congestion, and river crossings. As well as the totally incomprehensible nationwide car parking systems, and for any fines.
    If there were such a system I would scrape together something like £50 credit to avoid stress when interacting with those systems.
    In the face of all this nerd generated malarkey I wish we could get back to simple and straightforward cash.
    Sadiq Khant has done a good job as Mayor, he has been elected three times. I live around the corner from the late Ella Adoo Kissi Debra hard by the South Circular, and the death of the poor girl has led to cleaner air round my way thanks to the action of Khan and his team.
    Sometimes you wish you could LOL a post multiple times. 
    Vladimir Putin keeps getting elected too.
    Am no fan of Khan and I dont agree that getting electected 3 times is necessarily a good measure of whether someone has done a good job.

    But are you genuinely suggesting Khan has rigged elections in the same way Putin has? 
    Not in the slightest,  was just making a point that you don't have to be good at your job to keep it.
    Probably says more about the apathy of voters, that he is still in power and also a slur on the other political parties for not running credible alternatives against him at election time.
    Or perhaps people think he’s done a good job and worth re electing. 
    Since he was elected, my experience of living and working in London has improved significantly
    Out of interest, what's changed. Clean air?
    If I were to pick 3 things:

    In my experience it's safer - I was robbed on the street 5 times between 2006 and 2012 and I've never felt as unsafe since I moved back in 2017

    Public transport is better. The SL4, Elizabeth line and night tube make life much easier.

    Cycling infrastructure is amazing and I can pretty much get anywhere I need to without cycling alongside cars.

    Could be others as well but I generally don't have much to complain about. It's an amazing city to live in.
    What area(s) were you robbed in mate?
    It’s mad how it works out. I’m 56, have lived in London all my life and only personally know one person who has ever been mugged. 
    Born and raised in Deptford, lived there for 25 years, lived in West Croydon for 14 years. Both abject, utter shitholes. Never mugged, only know of 2 people who were. Know more people who've been mugged in Bolton, for fucks sake 🤣 
  • Charlton_Charlie
    Charlton_Charlie Posts: 1,450
    Not the main topic of conversation I realise, but my son was mugged (age 12) on Shooters Hill, returning home from school and I was mugged (I say mugged, the bloke pulled a machete) for my Vespa on Holloway Road...it's only my wife who's got away with it all so far in our house...
  • Leeds_Addick
    Leeds_Addick Posts: 4,905
    jose said:
    I have credit on the Dartford charge just in case I find myself using that crossing.
    I wish there was a single simplified system to cover it all, ULEZ, congestion, and river crossings. As well as the totally incomprehensible nationwide car parking systems, and for any fines.
    If there were such a system I would scrape together something like £50 credit to avoid stress when interacting with those systems.
    In the face of all this nerd generated malarkey I wish we could get back to simple and straightforward cash.
    Sadiq Khant has done a good job as Mayor, he has been elected three times. I live around the corner from the late Ella Adoo Kissi Debra hard by the South Circular, and the death of the poor girl has led to cleaner air round my way thanks to the action of Khan and his team.
    Sometimes you wish you could LOL a post multiple times. 
    Vladimir Putin keeps getting elected too.
    Am no fan of Khan and I dont agree that getting electected 3 times is necessarily a good measure of whether someone has done a good job.

    But are you genuinely suggesting Khan has rigged elections in the same way Putin has? 
    Not in the slightest,  was just making a point that you don't have to be good at your job to keep it.
    Probably says more about the apathy of voters, that he is still in power and also a slur on the other political parties for not running credible alternatives against him at election time.
    Or perhaps people think he’s done a good job and worth re electing. 
    Since he was elected, my experience of living and working in London has improved significantly
    Out of interest, what's changed. Clean air?
    If I were to pick 3 things:

    In my experience it's safer - I was robbed on the street 5 times between 2006 and 2012 and I've never felt as unsafe since I moved back in 2017

    Public transport is better. The SL4, Elizabeth line and night tube make life much easier.

    Cycling infrastructure is amazing and I can pretty much get anywhere I need to without cycling alongside cars.

    Could be others as well but I generally don't have much to complain about. It's an amazing city to live in.
    What area(s) were you robbed in mate?
    It’s mad how it works out. I’m 56, have lived in London all my life and only personally know one person who has ever been mugged. 
    Across Charlton, Lee and Kidbrooke. I imagine I was pretty unlucky but I do feel like SE London generally has got safer over the past 10 years or so.

  • clive
    clive Posts: 20,563

    Silvertown Tunnel cuts delays in first year, says TfL

    TfL's 12-month monitoring report said journey times had fallen significantly around the Blackwall Tunnel, with northbound journeys between Sun in the Sands and the tunnel being, on average, 58% quicker during the morning peak and 47% quicker in the evening peak compared with 2024/25.

    The report also found:

    • Morning peak journeys on the route were 126% faster, while southbound journeys between Bow Roundabout and the Blackwall Tunnel were 70% faster

    • There was a 2% decrease in weekday northbound traffic on the A12

    • A 23% reduction in over-height vehicle incidents at the Blackwall Tunnel since the new tunnel's opening - before the Silvertown link opened, the Blackwall Tunnel saw 700 closures a year which were often caused by stuck HGVs

    • Journey times at the Rotherhithe Tunnel had increased, with weekday traffic rising by 3%, but attributed this to issues in key operating systems.

    • Demand for the Woolwich Ferry also stands above pre-Silvertown Tunnel levels, with operations also affected by technical problems

    • Average nitrogen dioxide (NO₂) concentrations in the area had fallen by 17% compared with the year prior to the tunnel opening, but this had also been declining over the past five years

    • Traffic across both east London river crossings has remained below pre-tunnel levels, with no increase in weekday cross-river journeys despite the opening of the Silvertown Tunnel

    TfL said more than 11% of all tunnel trips were now made by bus, a 290% increase on levels before the tunnel opened, with more than 10,000 journeys crossing the Thames each day on routes 108, 129 and SL4.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg8rggryjpo

  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 5,565
    So does that summarise as fewer using it than before it opened and traffic up at Rotherhite and the Ferry BUT those that are using it are enjoying much faster journeys?

    I guess that was expected / logical. 
  • They conveniently leave off the fact that the numbers using the two tunnels have, in my estimation anyway, reduced. As others have said, they could have just introduced the toll without spending millions on the Silvertown tunnel and ended up with the same 'improvements', but they're never going to admit to that.