In the reported testimony he says he screamed at the intruder before he fired any shots. I can't help thinking the girlfriend might have uttered something at some stage to alert him that she was in the bathroom having a pee.
Oj got off and with this brief Oscar has a good chance of getting off loads of people who are guilty get off . But with no jury it will harder for sure
He had a 50 cal revolver, Jesus that's practically a hand cannon. Not saying it's relevant to the case or anything, just shows the kind of fear people must live in there, you don't use a 50 cal to wound someone.
He had a 50 cal revolver, Jesus that's practically a hand cannon. Not saying it's relevant to the case or anything, just shows the kind of fear people must live in there, you don't use a 50 cal to wound someone.
You probably don't shoot them 4 times if you're trying to wound them either.
Unless i've missed something, it says that his brother and lawyer were there when the police arrived.
He phoned the estate/premises manager & asked him to call the police. Don't know why. Perhaps no vehicles can gain access to the gated property, without authorisation.
First degree murder is planned before hand and then carried out later, while second degree (pre-meditated) murder is done, although intentionally, without really thinking about it (i.e. in the spur of the moment).
Sorry i got that the wrong way round, pre-meditated is first degree murder. So yes planned. 2nd degree is spur of the moment. 3rd degree is manslaughter.
I thought pre-meditated meant you have planned it?
That's the impression I get from what the SA police are saying. However, my question really was do the South African's have different degrees of murder similar to the USA, or was this 'pre-meditated' term just a media bolt-on?
I thought pre-meditated meant you have planned it?
I think it's more of a case of opportunity knocking; e.g. you see the hypothetical victim and the top of the stairs and shove them down. First degree murder would be where you buy the murder implement, get the victim somewhere and work out how to dispose of the body all before you act. Or so I understand it to be, I am no lawyer.
Sorry i got that the wrong way round, pre-meditated is first degree murder. So yes planned. 2nd degree is spur of the moment. 3rd degree is manslaughter.
I think.
We've moved on a bit from making her a reasonable offer then?
Sorry i got that the wrong way round, pre-meditated is first degree murder. So yes planned. 2nd degree is spur of the moment. 3rd degree is manslaughter.
I think.
We've moved on a bit from making her a reasonable offer then?
lol, don't get these threads mixed up Chris. Could be difficult to explain away:-)
That copper is music to oscars briefs ears . He will be on bail by Thursday afternoon
If the case fell down on that cop's testimony, the question would always remain did Pistorious go free because he was innocent or because a good brief took apart a witness. Of course the actual trial won't be for months yet but the story won't go anywhere.
Looking at the drawing/plan of the bedroom, he had to walk past the bed to get to the bathroom. And we're expected to believe he wouldn't have noticed she wasn't in the bed.
Think he's going to get off though, same as OJ, police negligence will save him.
Regardless of the drugs and the arguing I am still stuck on how it's dark enough to not notice someone in bed with you but not too dark that you can't get out on the balcony, put your legs on, get a gun, get from one side of the room to another, etc.
It's actually not that hard to not notice somebody is not in bed. When they are under the cover the only thing you would see is a small part of their face. It doesn't have to be that dark to not notice. If I got up in the night I would just assume my girlfriend was there. I probably wouldn't even look.
Regardless of the drugs and the arguing I am still stuck on how it's dark enough to not notice someone in bed with you but not too dark that you can't get out on the balcony, put your legs on, get a gun, get from one side of the room to another, etc.
It's actually not that hard to not notice somebody is not in bed. When they are under the cover the only thing you would see is a small part of their face. It doesn't have to be that dark to not notice. If I got up in the night I would just assume my girlfriend was there. I probably wouldn't even look.
If there was a noise though, surely the first thing you'd do is make sure it wasn't your girlfriend? Especially as he walked past the bed to reach the bathroom.
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Unless i've missed something, it says that his brother and lawyer were there when the police arrived.
And even so, his lawyer and brother were still there first.
Perhaps he's not telling the whole truth :-)
2nd degree is spur of the moment.
3rd degree is manslaughter.
I think.
Think he's going to get off though, same as OJ, police negligence will save him.