Really can't see this being taken away from Qatar. Even in the unlikely event that Sepp's lawyer finds corruption, he will do what he normally does and laugh it off and say we can't take it off te Qatari people now. Just reading about the other 2022 bidders, I must have missed it at the time, but Japan and America bid for it again, they have both had it recently, and Japan only 12 years again... Madness.
Sometimes I get the impression that it's only us Brits that really care about the alleged bribery that took place, maybe it's just not that big a deal in other parts of the world ?
Sometimes I get the impression that it's only us Brits that really care about the alleged bribery that took place, maybe it's just not that big a deal in other parts of the world ?
I would think the indignation levels would closely follow the Transparency International Global Corruption index. Which by the way, the UK never tops (i.e is free of corruption) , nor even gets into the top 5. But some of our journalism remains world beating.
Sometimes I get the impression that it's only us Brits that really care about the alleged bribery that took place, maybe it's just not that big a deal in other parts of the world ?
I place the blame for this British "corruption is a big deal" attitude fair and square on Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells. No question.
Creates a new issue - the country which invented the game doesn't get it for well over half a century and a country that calls it soccer gets it twice in less than 30 years. When you factor in the fact that the country that invented the game is probably one of 5 countries best equipped to hold a tournament of this sort, you really see how ridiculous it all is. If Qatar lose it, it should be offered to us!
Creates a new issue - the country which invented the game doesn't get it for well over half a century and a country that calls it soccer gets it twice in less than 30 years. When you factor in the fact that the country that invented the game is probably one of 5 countries best equipped to hold a tournament of this sort, you really see how ridiculous it all is. If Qatar lose it, it should be offered to us!
No it shouldn't.
That we invented football is irrelevant. It was 1863 when we codified the rules. Move on.
If we claim inventors rights then Greece would get the Olympics every four years.
We bid in the 2018 round when it was Europe's "turn". We lost out to Russia. If that was a fix then maybe we should get a chance.
We didn't bid in the 2022 round so we have no claim to take the "runners up" squad. The US did bid and came second.
That the US calls it Soccer (a word invented in England, by the English and widely used in England up until the 1980s) is as relevant as saying Italy shouldn't host a tournament as they call soccer "Calcio".
Should England host another major tournament soon? Yes, we have most of the stadiums, the fan base and most of the infra-structure. We did a great job with the 2012 olympics and we host a tennis grand slam and other major events every year. We won't need to spend billions to get ready and it would be ready on time. And the weather would be fine, if maybe a bit wet some days.
So lots of good reasons to consider England but events from 1863 and what the US call the game are not some of them.
I'm not saying every 4 years - but we all know that FIFA and world football resents us for inventing the game and that simple reason has prevented a country with our superior infrastucture getting it since 1966. I would put on the back of our tracksuits ~ We invented this bloody game you *****!
I don't think we were able to bid for 2022 because the previous World Cup was going to be held in Europe. But if we lose Qatar, surely give it to a country who could host it at the drop of a hat!
- but we all know that FIFA and world football resents us for inventing the game
Do they? Where is the evidence for that?
Maybe they don't like the arrogance of some England fans telling everyone that "we invented the game" as if that should give us special privileges.
Which as it happens it still does. Permanent memberships of the The International Football Association Board (that sets the laws of the game) for example. Not just England either. Scotland, N. Ireland and Wales too.
And that we are one country with four teams and four votes must puzzle at lot of people too.
FIFA is a corrupt and badly run organisation but it makes aircraft hangers full of dosh now and that is why England doesn't get tournaments. We don't pay big enough bribes.
They don't like the arrogance of English fans - I accept that - but we are only telling the truth - Of course the four associations keeps us down too - think of Best, Dalglish, Giggs, Bale............
It's a dangerous idea. This campsite is currently enduring high humidity and daytime temps of 35 degrees and no breeze. We are in the 5th day and people are now struggling. Brazil is hellish enough for footballers, Qatar is plain medically irresponsible IMO
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"ALERT: FIFA called U.S. Soccer to have ready an Organizing Committee for 2022.
There would be no World Cup in Qatar."
That we invented football is irrelevant. It was 1863 when we codified the rules. Move on.
If we claim inventors rights then Greece would get the Olympics every four years.
We bid in the 2018 round when it was Europe's "turn". We lost out to Russia. If that was a fix then maybe we should get a chance.
We didn't bid in the 2022 round so we have no claim to take the "runners up" squad. The US did bid and came second.
That the US calls it Soccer (a word invented in England, by the English and widely used in England up until the 1980s) is as relevant as saying Italy shouldn't host a tournament as they call soccer "Calcio".
Should England host another major tournament soon? Yes, we have most of the stadiums, the fan base and most of the infra-structure. We did a great job with the 2012 olympics and we host a tennis grand slam and other major events every year. We won't need to spend billions to get ready and it would be ready on time. And the weather would be fine, if maybe a bit wet some days.
So lots of good reasons to consider England but events from 1863 and what the US call the game are not some of them.
I don't think we were able to bid for 2022 because the previous World Cup was going to be held in Europe. But if we lose Qatar, surely give it to a country who could host it at the drop of a hat!
Maybe they don't like the arrogance of some England fans telling everyone that "we invented the game" as if that should give us special privileges.
Which as it happens it still does. Permanent memberships of the The International Football Association Board (that sets the laws of the game) for example. Not just England either. Scotland, N. Ireland and Wales too.
And that we are one country with four teams and four votes must puzzle at lot of people too.
FIFA is a corrupt and badly run organisation but it makes aircraft hangers full of dosh now and that is why England doesn't get tournaments. We don't pay big enough bribes.
You are right about the bribes though.
But rather the US than Qatar!
Your logic on here is as sound as your " Alastair Cook is a coward and should be dropped for Pietersen to return as captain."
(on the Test Match thread).
Wibble.
Blatter needs to be eliminated.