World Cup in Qatar 'impossible' in summer, says Greg Dyke

MuttleyCAFC

ShootersHillGuru said:

I'm going to support Muttley here. I'm not thinking England have a right to host the WC but for a nation that has the most professional clubs, the biggest league, one of the highest football profiles in the world I would have thought we might have had it awarded without a gap of sixty odd years.

I may have made my point more dramatically than I could have - but thanks for getting it.

Callumcafc

So Michael Garcia, the lawyer investigating all this, submitted his report earlier this month and FIFA says they won't publish the report... it is, I suppose, at least encouraging that some senior members are refusing to support that stance.

Stu_of_Kunming

Having just been to Qatar, I can't see how this can happen, I walked out of the airport at 7 30am and the heat was unbearable.

seriously_red

It is absurb and a true test of what happens next

smudge7946

It will be difficult to play football in such extreme heat, however
The game will only last 1 1/2 hours
They won't have to wear Kevlar helmets
They won't have to wear reinforced body armour
They won't have to carry 40lbs back packs.
They are unlikely to be shot at, worry about mortars or IEDs
They will be handsomely rewarded did there efforts.
The accommodation is likely to be five star.
The deployment is only going to be for a month. (abd probably only two weeks for England.)

Algarveaddick

smudge7946 said:

It will be difficult to play football in such extreme heat, however
The game will only last 1 1/2 hours
They won't have to wear Kevlar helmets
They won't have to wear reinforced body armour
They won't have to carry 40lbs back packs.
They are unlikely to be shot at, worry about mortars or IEDs
They will be handsomely rewarded did there efforts.
The accommodation is likely to be five star.
The deployment is only going to be for a month. (abd probably only two weeks for England.)

With no disrespect to the armed forces at all of course Smudge.

1) The conflict cannot be moved somewhere more suitable
2) Like footballers, no one has been forced to join the armed forces
3) No one has (allegedly) bunged anyone in order for the conflict to take place where it is.
4) The conflict isn't entertainment which people paying good money to watch want to see at it's best, not as a half speed parody of the real thing.

MrOneLung

was there this concern about playing at altitude in 1986?

PragueAddick

MrOneLung said:

was there this concern about playing at altitude in 1986?

Was that even a big issue? ( I cannot remember or find a reference to that). But there were 11 venues, and for sure most of them would not have presented a big issue. There's no getting away from the heat in Qatar.

What I have been reminded by Wikipedia is that in fact Colombia were chosen for 1986, and FIFA took it away from them only in 1983. So there is a precedent.

MrOneLung

Didnt Colombia say they couldnt host it after an earthquake only for Mexico City to also suffer one?

colthe3rd

smudge7946 said:

It will be difficult to play football in such extreme heat, however
The game will only last 1 1/2 hours
They won't have to wear Kevlar helmets
They won't have to wear reinforced body armour
They won't have to carry 40lbs back packs.
They are unlikely to be shot at, worry about mortars or IEDs
They will be handsomely rewarded did there efforts.
The accommodation is likely to be five star.
The deployment is only going to be for a month. (abd probably only two weeks for England.)

Yeah but some of them will be real heroes

PragueAddick

MrOneLung said:

Didnt Colombia say they couldnt host it after an earthquake only for Mexico City to also suffer one?

Says "economic reasons" on Wikipedia, but maybe an earthquake triggered those problems

MrLargo

So in addition to shutting down the European domestic leagues for 8 weeks, there is now the possibility that they may have to move the African Cup of Nations and the Winter Olympics - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29517324

Farce after farce after farce.

Callumcafc

http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/29918581

Players will boycott 2022 if held in the summer.

MrOneLung

players 'may' boycott 2022 if held in the summer.

iaitch

Surely the FAs of the major countries should boycott it, the tournament would then be worthless and show FIFAs decision to award it to Qatar to be ridiculous.

FIFA could then ban those countries but could then run the risk of a breakaway to form a new world governing body that has more transparency and honesty than FIFA.

C_A_F_C

It wont be held in the summer.

Lincsaddick

the subject of the title is a statement of the bleedin' obvious

golfaddick

The WC is a summer tournament - always has been & always should be. The idea is that it fits in when the major football nations seasons have ended & before they start again........and that was the concept for the bidding process. Anything different should make the bidding process null & void. END OF.

Fumbluff

Exactly, they might as well do it in 2023, or just whenever they fancy it, i'm sure that's what it said could happen in the tender....

JollyRobin

golfaddick said:

The WC is a summer tournament - always has been & always should be. The idea is that it fits in when the major football nations seasons have ended & before they start again........and that was the concept for the bidding process. Anything different should make the bidding process null & void. END OF.

I think the Brazilian league might have something to say about that.

ForeverAddickted

golfaddick said:

The WC is a summer tournament - always has been & always should be. The idea is that it fits in when the major football nations seasons have ended & before they start again........and that was the concept for the bidding process. Anything different should make the bidding process null & void. END OF.

What was it when South Africa hosted the competition?

Fiiiiiish

Every time I see this topic reappear at the top of the forum, my football soul sinks a little.

Maybe we need Russell Brand to start a new footballing governing revolution!!

North Lower Neil

Everyone knows it was crooked, they just need to give up the charade and admit it's a ridiculous idea.

Granpa

If Atlantis had bribed enough officials, we'd be having an underwater World Cup.

Great idea, we can drown the FIFA top men in one go. I think we should tell FIFA and Qatar to get stuffed, then organise a competitive Cup in the Summer as usual. Qatar's World Cup would be nothing without the European and South American countries, USA would be a good venue.

Rizzo

North Lower Neil said:

Everyone knows it was crooked, they just need to give up the charade and admit it's a ridiculous idea.

I wonder if anyone at FIFA genuinely thinks they're getting away with this farce and that nobody knows they're as bent as a nine bob note?

soapy_jones

Hasn't Platini inferred that a new vote carve up stitch up is due if the findings white wash of the enquiry snow job show any irregularities leads to the money?

Algarveaddick

Rizzo said:

North Lower Neil said:

Everyone knows it was crooked, they just need to give up the charade and admit it's a ridiculous idea.

I wonder if anyone at FIFA genuinely thinks they're getting away with this farce and that nobody knows they're as bent as a nine bob note?

I think that like bankers, MPs, the landed gentry, big shot criminals etc, they just don't care. As long as they have the money in the bank, and hang around with like minded people it does not matter what us plebs think.

They - as I am reminded so often on threads about Scott Parker or Diego Poyet - are "just looking after their family's future" and "anyone would do the same"... :P

Goonerhater

when i worked there i had to stay in their "Olympic hotel" already part of their bid for the Olympics---floor 32 no phones worked ,the fire alarm went off but no worries you could wander down via the lifts (which still worked) and ask the reception what was going on (if they knew !!!) ExxonMobil moved me as soon as i informed them of the hotels issues.

Our building was next to a Quatarie building which we had to let them know was on fire (i kid you not) they sounded the evacuation---which no one took any notice of for 30 mins---that building was the Ministry of Education !

I turned up for one stint of 8 weeks on and was asked where my cold weather clothes were ? i had none. It was fecking freezing at night and one of the Indian security guys got me a heavy duty jacket

Then there are the sand storms ---like something out of the film Mummy---the dust takes days to settle and its not easy to breath.

So all in all Qatar is a great place to hold the World Cup unless your a player or spectator

lordromford

Goonerhater said:

when i worked there i had to stay in their "Olympic hotel" already part of their bid for the Olympics---floor 32 no phones worked ,the fire alarm went off but no worries you could wander down via the lifts (which still worked) and ask the reception what was going on (if they knew !!!) ExxonMobil moved me as soon as i informed them of the hotels issues.

Our building was next to a Quatarie building which we had to let them know was on fire (i kid you not) they sounded the evacuation---which no one took any notice of for 30 mins---that building was the Ministry of Education !

I turned up for one stint of 8 weeks on and was asked where my cold weather clothes were ? i had none. It was fecking freezing at night and one of the Indian security guys got me a heavy duty jacket

Then there are the sand storms ---like something out of the film Mummy---the dust takes days to settle and its not easy to breath.

So all in all Qatar is a great place to hold the World Cup unless your a player or spectator

Hmm.
GH next door to a building which suddenly caught fire?
You didn't set light to it did you GH? Was it full of Arsenal fans?
:-)

MrOneLung

lordromford said:

Goonerhater said:

when i worked there i had to stay in their "Olympic hotel" already part of their bid for the Olympics---floor 32 no phones worked ,the fire alarm went off but no worries you could wander down via the lifts (which still worked) and ask the reception what was going on (if they knew !!!) ExxonMobil moved me as soon as i informed them of the hotels issues.

Our building was next to a Quatarie building which we had to let them know was on fire (i kid you not) they sounded the evacuation---which no one took any notice of for 30 mins---that building was the Ministry of Education !

I turned up for one stint of 8 weeks on and was asked where my cold weather clothes were ? i had none. It was fecking freezing at night and one of the Indian security guys got me a heavy duty jacket

Then there are the sand storms ---like something out of the film Mummy---the dust takes days to settle and its not easy to breath.

So all in all Qatar is a great place to hold the World Cup unless your a player or spectator

Hmm.
GH next door to a building which suddenly caught fire?
You didn't set light to it did you GH? Was it full of Arsenal fans?
:-)

Hmm,

LordRomford from The Yard

found this old headline:

Arsenal poised to be subjected to £1.5bn takeover bid from Middle East consortium within the next few weeks, dwarfing the £800 million paid by the Glazers for Manchester United, will be backed by funds from Qatar and the United Arab Emirates.