Sky Sports News have just shown footage of training this am. Being taken by Alex Dyer and Damien Matthew. Jose and A.N Other x 2 were watching (dressed in full track suits).
Players seemed fine. Lots of laughing and joking.
part and parcel of football, surely you just get on with it. The Club pay your wages not the Manager. I'm sure that most have had their manager sacked before. Just be professional and do the job you are paid to do.
They did not appear to "all get on with it" on Sunday" though did they, looking at events and the fact CP now knew on Sunday he was going the players showed nothing like a "professional" attitude.
They didn't exactly play to keep Powell in a job did they?
Because he was already "gone", Sundays result would not have made any difference
It would have showed that they were playing for the manager and given him a send off to be proud of rather than a feeble surrender.
And put £1m in RD's pocket with a win bonus and semi final appearance. The players are not stupid but sadly they are not fans so it will always be hard to agree.
Although its sad to see CP get sacked & like everyone else on here do not like the way our Club is being run, you do not have to be a rocket scientist to see things needed to change. Our performances this season have mostly been inept, with a few decent ones thrown in (generally against the better teams) but since xmas have been getting worse & capped off with a dire display on Sunday.
Yes, you can blame the players or blame RD for selling 3 of our best players & replacing them with inferior youngsters, but inevitably its the manager that picks the team & decides on the formation and perhaps RD was watching on Sunday & thought enough was enough..............I know many of us also thought that & the post match thread is testament to it.
football is both a results business & an entertainment business. You can possibly have the results without the entertainment & still survive (1-0 to the Arsenal comes to mind) or you could possibly have the entertainment & not the results (Kevin Keegan's Newcastle perhaps) but you can't have neither the results nor the entertainment, and sadly that is what we've had to put up with recently and CP has had to pay.
I actually think Riga may be a stop gap manager with a permanent one coming in during the summer
Jose will do things the Charlton way win at millwall and everyone will suck him off just like when that Pratt Pardew had us beat west ham 4-0 and then lead us to relegation ...........Charltonised eventually !
Well, with a degree in computer sciences and 20 years’ experience working in IT departments in the insurance trade at least Riga has another career to fall back on.
Hopefully he'll upgrade the online ticketing system while he's here..
Although its sad to see CP get sacked & like everyone else on here do not like the way our Club is being run, you do not have to be a rocket scientist to see things needed to change. Our performances this season have mostly been inept, with a few decent ones thrown in (generally against the better teams) but since xmas have been getting worse & capped off with a dire display on Sunday.
Yes, you can blame the players or blame RD for selling 3 of our best players & replacing them with inferior youngsters, but inevitably its the manager that picks the team & decides on the formation and perhaps RD was watching on Sunday & thought enough was enough..............I know many of us also thought that & the post match thread is testament to it.
football is both a results business & an entertainment business. You can possibly have the results without the entertainment & still survive (1-0 to the Arsenal comes to mind) or you could possibly have the entertainment & not the results (Kevin Keegan's Newcastle perhaps) but you can't have neither the results nor the entertainment, and sadly that is what we've had to put up with recently and CP has had to pay.
I actually think Riga may be a stop gap manager with a permanent one coming in during the summer
You seem to want to ignore the strong evidence that CP wasn't sacked because of "Our performances this season" or the "display on Sunday" - but because he would not agree to Duchatelet dictating what players he should play.
So it's a bit ironic of you to say "inevitably its the manager that picks the team & decides on the formation" as it seems he was sacked for doing precisely that.
However, it's reasonable to assume that Riga won't be the one that "inevitably....picks the team & decides on the formation"
I think it's for the best that the new boss has no links or interest in Charlton - Powell was Charlton to the bone, the club was in his blood and while that worked for him, perhaps a more analytical approach is what is needed for the future. Powell was here throughout the entire collapse since promotion, he will have hurt as an ex-Charlton player, and as a manager and even as a fan I think, and the already stressful situation will have just cut him even deeper for all that. Riga has none of that, he knows if he keeps us up he'll get a nice wedge and has no links to any previous regimes at Charlton - a totally new slate for the future.
I am optimistic this could work out in time, and while I dislike the continental 'coach not manager' approach, RD seems set on implementing it, and we are probably better off having someone who had knowledge and experience of that system than someone like Powell who fought against it (as was his right to do of course, it is not the way he knows or likes.)
Does he know about the other Championship teams? If not even more cluelessness. Feel sick
WHO GIVES A FLYING F**K ABOUT OTHER CHAMPIONSHIP TEAMS?! Is the main credential for a Charlton manager to have read the 'The History Of Burnley F.C., by A. Localhistorian'? How much did Powell really know about the however many other League One teams when he came in? Had he that much experience of playing in a cloggers' league? No. I don't give a toss whether the new guy has encyclopaedic knowledge of all 92 clubs as long as he does a good job at one club - Charlton Athletic. Pochettino didn't even SPEAK English when he came to Southampton and that didn't turn out too shabby.
Do you really not understand that with such limited resources - and time - some knowledge of opposing players, bosses, strengths and weaknesses might just help a little? As might a proven ability to get the best out of moderate players who also understand what they're up against. I genuinely wish him well but have to doubt his suitability in our current predicament.
Riga if your so good your first job is to win tomorrow and Saturday and keep us up. If you don't do that what is the point of you at all? If you do help us escape, then you have to give us a reason to come next season too. With me you have no slack at all, if you want understanding, and to be given a chance, then deliver the results straight away. You have 27 hours before your first match.
All this science malarky may not work on a freezing cold Tuesday night, pissing it down, up in Carlisle with 2 blades of grass on the pitch.. It's the wrong league for all this. And if he keeps us up, good luck to him applying his tactics in such a short space of time. And with the players we have.
Riga if your so good your first job is to win tomorrow and Saturday and keep us up. If you don't do that what is the point of you at all? If you do help us escape, then you have to give us a reason to come next season too. With me you have no slack at all, if you want understanding, and to be given a chance, then deliver the results straight away. You have 27 hours before your first match.
Do you honestly think CP would have got six points from those two games? By you're argument, CP would also have been useless if he failed to do so!
Does he know about the other Championship teams? If not even more cluelessness. Feel sick
WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK ABOUT OTHER CHAMPIONSHIP TEAMS?! Is the main credential for a Charlton manager to have read the 'The History Of Burnley F.C., by A. Localhistorian'? How much did Powell really know about the however many other League One teams when he came in? Had he that much experience of playing in a cloggers' league? No. I don't give a toss whether the new guy has encyclopaedic knowledge of all 92 clubs as long as he does a good job at one club - Charlton Athletic. Pochettino didn't even SPEAK English when he came to Southampton and that didn't turn out too shabby.
Do you really not understand that with such limited resources - and time - some knowledge of opposing players, bosses, strengths and weaknesses might just help a little? As might a proven ability to get the best out of moderate players who also understand what they're up against. I genuinely wish him well but have to doubt his suitability in our current predicament.
I do understand your point - I just totally disagree with it. We knew about Sheffield United - they beat us quite convincingly. We did research on the likes of Doncaster and Birmingham, they beat us too. Chris Powell must know more about Leicester than anyone not a current staff member there - they beat us. Knowledge is not power. Coming in with no preconceptions and no apprehension could be the way forward. Enough with trying to counter the other teams' tactics - at least try imposing our own. It cannot work out any worse.
Sky Sports News have just shown footage of training this am. Being taken by Alex Dyer and Damien Matthew. Jose and A.N Other x 2 were watching (dressed in full track suits).
Players seemed fine. Lots of laughing and joking.
part and parcel of football, surely you just get on with it. The Club pay your wages not the Manager. I'm sure that most have had their manager sacked before. Just be professional and do the job you are paid to do.
They did not appear to "all get on with it" on Sunday" though did they, looking at events and the fact CP now knew on Sunday he was going the players showed nothing like a "professional" attitude.
They didn't exactly play to keep Powell in a job did they?
Because he was already "gone", Sundays result would not have made any difference
True, but what about the 20-odd games before that?.....................
Does not look particularly good in that the form under Powell (for a host of reasons and rumours) has been in decline as the season has progressed. We currently have 3 points from last 5 league games so status quo was never an option and absolutely certain relegation form.
Victory over Millwall has never been more important.
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Yes, you can blame the players or blame RD for selling 3 of our best players & replacing them with inferior youngsters, but inevitably its the manager that picks the team & decides on the formation and perhaps RD was watching on Sunday & thought enough was enough..............I know many of us also thought that & the post match thread is testament to it.
football is both a results business & an entertainment business. You can possibly have the results without the entertainment & still survive (1-0 to the Arsenal comes to mind) or you could possibly have the entertainment & not the results (Kevin Keegan's Newcastle perhaps) but you can't have neither the results nor the entertainment, and sadly that is what we've had to put up with recently and CP has had to pay.
I actually think Riga may be a stop gap manager with a permanent one coming in during the summer
www.theguardian.com/business/2014/mar/11/
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2578216/New-Charlton-boss-Jose-Riga-invited-train-Real-Madrid-Jose-Mourinho-scouted-Belgium-AC-Milan-ready-Addicks-up.html
We're getting science according to this lot: http://www.footballdirectnews.com/premier-league-news/42795-riga-adopts-scientific-approach-at-charlton.php#.Ux8iZed_tqI
So it's a bit ironic of you to say "inevitably its the manager that picks the team & decides on the formation" as it seems he was sacked for doing precisely that.
However, it's reasonable to assume that Riga won't be the one that "inevitably....picks the team & decides on the formation"
I am optimistic this could work out in time, and while I dislike the continental 'coach not manager' approach, RD seems set on implementing it, and we are probably better off having someone who had knowledge and experience of that system than someone like Powell who fought against it (as was his right to do of course, it is not the way he knows or likes.)
With me you have no slack at all, if you want understanding, and to be given a chance, then deliver the results straight away. You have 27 hours before your first match.
Was also at the training ground before Powell had even left
Birmingham 34 36 1.06 49
Blackpool 34 35 1.03 46
Doncaster 34 33 0,97 45
Millwall 34 31 0,91 42
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Yeovil 33 29 0,88 40
Barnsley 33 29 0,88 40
Charlton 30 27 0,90 41
Does not look particularly good in that the form under Powell (for a host of reasons and rumours) has been in decline as the season has progressed. We currently have 3 points from last 5 league games so status quo was never an option and absolutely certain relegation form.
Victory over Millwall has never been more important.