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  • edited June 2016
    JiMMy 85 said:

    JiMMy 85 said:

    Big_Bob said:

    Terribly slow and boring episode.

    Can't stand Daenerys, can't believe people actually enjoyed the close of that. Hoping at some point her 'MY DRAGONS' decide to eat her.

    Looking forward to Arya sorting out bowl cut, looking forward to Snow Vs Bolton and the mountain fight which they are setting up very obviously who with.

    Think Arya blowing out the fire would have been a better end to that episode.

    Who will the mountain be fighting?
    The Hound.
    Ding ding ding ding
    Cleganebowl, as it's known in some reaches of the interwebs, doesn't seem likely in the show as there hasn't been any kind of set up for the Hound coming back, sadly. It might be a resurrection too far.
    The hound didn't die though
    Not on screen, but you don't know that for a fact either way. I hope he did survive, I just don't think they've done much to set it up. It becomes a bit deus ex if he randomly walks into a scene, especially in the context of a show that asked the audience to stretch suspension of disbelief a lot this season - Jon's revival was set up three seasons earlier. Arya saying "I don't know" and cutting to another conversation is nothing like the Beric set up. If we'd heard about someone skulking around like in Feast For Crows then I'd buy it. But the show hadn't gone there. Not yet at least. EDIT: In fact, wasn't it you, Kent, who once said "Stannis is (for the moment) still alive" after he died? Do you think he's dead now?
    I'm changing my mind. It's going to be Stannis vs the Mountain:-)
  • They may well do a "Here's how the Hound survived and what he's been up to since" bit though.
  • Dazzler21 said:

    13 episodes left after this series by all accounts, not the 20 (or more) I was hoping for!

    They'll extend the contracts for the last 7 episodes or the final season will be 3 feature length episodes.

    I'd take either.
    ONe of the directors from this season inadvertently revealed that season 7 would be just 7 episodes.
  • That would be some seriously shit storytelling (and a style of storytelling they haven't done before).

    To give us background/ flashbacks to pre-Thrones stories, they had to come up with time travelling trees, and that took six seasons to come to fruition.
  • JiMMy 85 said:

    That would be some seriously shit storytelling (and a style of storytelling they haven't done before).

    To give us background/ flashbacks to pre-Thrones stories, they had to come up with time travelling trees, and that took six seasons to come to fruition.

    Not always. Remember's Cersei's flashback to the witch.
  • Good point, but still a bit different to what we're talking about here. That's the only 'flashback' in the entire show. It wasn't designed to say "you know that thing that's practically impossible? Here's a flashback to make it possible!" - it was to paint somebody's character and motivation, so very different storytelling.

    The books hint (but have yet to confirm, quite the opposite in fact) that the Hound is still up to no good. The show hasn't come close to touching that story. I suspect it's like Lady Stoneheart - an interesting sub-plot but not relevant enough to squeeze in.

    The only reason I think that might change is because of Jaime, but that's potentially a spoiler.

    Like I say, I hope he does come back and they make it believable. I just think they would have laid more groundwork for it.
  • Fiiish said:

    I imagine Brienne would have just cut his head clean off if she has killed him, which has been shown several times in full detail already.

    If Brienne has spared Stannis, I imagine it is to barter him for Sansa or something? Either way I agree, Stannis is not confirmed dead until we see his head and body in separate pieces on screen.

    Do you think he's dead yet, by the way?
  • The hound lost to Brienne so how's he gonna come back to beat a superpowered Mountain.
  • edited June 2016
    Chunes said:

    The hound lost to Brienne so how's he gonna come back to beat a superpowered Mountain.

    He had blood poisoning when he fought Brienne (he wouldn't let Arya cauterize his wound). Still think he'd be up against it with big brother though.
  • Chunes said:

    The hound lost to Brienne so how's he gonna come back to beat a superpowered Mountain.

    He was injured at the time.
    JiMMy 85 said:

    Good point, but still a bit different to what we're talking about here. That's the only 'flashback' in the entire show. It wasn't designed to say "you know that thing that's practically impossible? Here's a flashback to make it possible!" - it was to paint somebody's character and motivation, so very different storytelling.

    The books hint (but have yet to confirm, quite the opposite in fact) that the Hound is still up to no good. The show hasn't come close to touching that story. I suspect it's like Lady Stoneheart - an interesting sub-plot but not relevant enough to squeeze in.

    The only reason I think that might change is because of Jaime, but that's potentially a spoiler.

    Like I say, I hope he does come back and they make it believable. I just think they would have laid more groundwork for it.

    One of the actors has given the game away, but I don't think they will show a flash back if he did come back. After all, most of that time would be recovering from the beating he took. Also you didn't hear about Rob directly in the whole 2nd book. They also spent a lot of time explaining why he hated his brother so much.
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  • edited June 2016
    JiMMy 85 said:

    Fiiish said:

    I imagine Brienne would have just cut his head clean off if she has killed him, which has been shown several times in full detail already.

    If Brienne has spared Stannis, I imagine it is to barter him for Sansa or something? Either way I agree, Stannis is not confirmed dead until we see his head and body in separate pieces on screen.

    Do you think he's dead yet, by the way?
    Hindsight's a wonderful thing isn't it.

    Also for the record I did think he was dead back when I posted that, I was only saying at the time that it was still possible he had been spared.
  • edited June 2016
    JiMMy 85 said:

    Good point, but still a bit different to what we're talking about here. That's the only 'flashback' in the entire show. It wasn't designed to say "you know that thing that's practically impossible? Here's a flashback to make it possible!" - it was to paint somebody's character and motivation, so very different storytelling.

    The books hint (but have yet to confirm, quite the opposite in fact) that the Hound is still up to no good. The show hasn't come close to touching that story. I suspect it's like Lady Stoneheart - an interesting sub-plot but not relevant enough to squeeze in.

    The only reason I think that might change is because of Jaime, but that's potentially a spoiler.

    Like I say, I hope he does come back and they make it believable. I just think they would have laid more groundwork for it.

    Here, here. I for one hope they stick to the story lines about resurrection, zombies and dragons. At least those things are believable and firmly rooted in fact.
  • edited June 2016

    JiMMy 85 said:

    Good point, but still a bit different to what we're talking about here. That's the only 'flashback' in the entire show. It wasn't designed to say "you know that thing that's practically impossible? Here's a flashback to make it possible!" - it was to paint somebody's character and motivation, so very different storytelling.

    The books hint (but have yet to confirm, quite the opposite in fact) that the Hound is still up to no good. The show hasn't come close to touching that story. I suspect it's like Lady Stoneheart - an interesting sub-plot but not relevant enough to squeeze in.

    The only reason I think that might change is because of Jaime, but that's potentially a spoiler.

    Like I say, I hope he does come back and they make it believable. I just think they would have laid more groundwork for it.

    Here, here. I for one hope they stick to the story lines about resurrection, zombies and dragons. At least those things are believable and firmly rooted in fact.
    Magic exists but there needed to be a maester or red woman or Beric/ Thoros hiding behind a nearby rock to save the Hound. It's not a rule within the show thing, it's a storytelling thing.
  • JiMMy 85 said:

    JiMMy 85 said:

    Good point, but still a bit different to what we're talking about here. That's the only 'flashback' in the entire show. It wasn't designed to say "you know that thing that's practically impossible? Here's a flashback to make it possible!" - it was to paint somebody's character and motivation, so very different storytelling.

    The books hint (but have yet to confirm, quite the opposite in fact) that the Hound is still up to no good. The show hasn't come close to touching that story. I suspect it's like Lady Stoneheart - an interesting sub-plot but not relevant enough to squeeze in.

    The only reason I think that might change is because of Jaime, but that's potentially a spoiler.

    Like I say, I hope he does come back and they make it believable. I just think they would have laid more groundwork for it.

    Here, here. I for one hope they stick to the story lines about resurrection, zombies and dragons. At least those things are believable and firmly rooted in fact.
    Magic exists but there needed to be a maester or red woman or Beric/ Thoros hiding behind a nearby rock to save the Hound. It's not a rule within the show thing, it's a storytelling thing.
    If you want a little spoiler then google Ian mcshane game of thrones.
  • JiMMy 85 said:

    JiMMy 85 said:

    Good point, but still a bit different to what we're talking about here. That's the only 'flashback' in the entire show. It wasn't designed to say "you know that thing that's practically impossible? Here's a flashback to make it possible!" - it was to paint somebody's character and motivation, so very different storytelling.

    The books hint (but have yet to confirm, quite the opposite in fact) that the Hound is still up to no good. The show hasn't come close to touching that story. I suspect it's like Lady Stoneheart - an interesting sub-plot but not relevant enough to squeeze in.

    The only reason I think that might change is because of Jaime, but that's potentially a spoiler.

    Like I say, I hope he does come back and they make it believable. I just think they would have laid more groundwork for it.

    Here, here. I for one hope they stick to the story lines about resurrection, zombies and dragons. At least those things are believable and firmly rooted in fact.
    Magic exists but there needed to be a maester or red woman hiding behind a nearby rock. It's not a rule within the show thing, it's a storytelling thing.
    Or a red tree, they always help too.
  • JiMMy 85 said:

    JiMMy 85 said:

    Good point, but still a bit different to what we're talking about here. That's the only 'flashback' in the entire show. It wasn't designed to say "you know that thing that's practically impossible? Here's a flashback to make it possible!" - it was to paint somebody's character and motivation, so very different storytelling.

    The books hint (but have yet to confirm, quite the opposite in fact) that the Hound is still up to no good. The show hasn't come close to touching that story. I suspect it's like Lady Stoneheart - an interesting sub-plot but not relevant enough to squeeze in.

    The only reason I think that might change is because of Jaime, but that's potentially a spoiler.

    Like I say, I hope he does come back and they make it believable. I just think they would have laid more groundwork for it.

    Here, here. I for one hope they stick to the story lines about resurrection, zombies and dragons. At least those things are believable and firmly rooted in fact.
    Magic exists but there needed to be a maester or red woman or Beric/ Thoros hiding behind a nearby rock to save the Hound. It's not a rule within the show thing, it's a storytelling thing.
    If you want a little spoiler then google Ian mcshane game of thrones.
    As tempting as that is I will refrain! If it's about him then I can only hope you're right, cos it will be some fight. I just hope he doesn't come steaming in out of nowhere to fight the mountain and it's explained convincingly.
  • Chunes said:

    The hound lost to Brienne so how's he gonna come back to beat a superpowered Mountain.

    The Hound hates his brother with an epic passion. The whole reason The Hound refused to be made a knight is because his brother is one. Knowing Game of Thrones he might just get carved up regardless, but I imagine that he'd probably happily lose both his arms as long as he could stick a sword through his brother using his toes.
  • edited June 2016

    Cant help but think Ian McShane would have made a better Euron. Usually get the casting right in the show but not sure on that character

  • Cant help but think Ian McShane would have made a better Euron. Usually get the casting right in the show but not sure on that character

    He (Euron) reminds me of Rufus Hound with a dodgy accent.
  • edited June 2016
    I genuinely think the set up will be in episode 8 or 9 and the battle will not occur until season 7.

    With all deaths in the series you at very least see the final swing of a sword. Stannis is dead btw.

    Nobody delivered the final blow to the Hound.
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  • Great actor Ian Mcshane, looking forward to seeing what he brings to the table!
  • Great actor Ian Mcshane, looking forward to seeing what he brings to the table!

    I'm hoping it's Eric and Tinker.

  • Cant help but think Ian McShane would have made a better Euron. Usually get the casting right in the show but not sure on that character

    I like the Euron actor. That mental smile when he marches off to kill his niece and nephew was great.
  • edited June 2016
    George Martin involved in a documentary around the roots of game of thrones.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc_FkoSFwNM

    Really interesting watch, basing a lot of GOT around British history.
  • SPOILER ALERT........













































    THE HOUND IS BACK!!!!
  • Fair play, they did it. Cleganebowl is on.
  • McShane had a big part
  • WSS said:

    McShane had a big part

    I didn't look at him that closely ;)


    In all seriousness McShane's seven pointed star pendant made me think about something. The pendant could easily be mistaken for a sun, is it possible the Seven is a mistake based upon the Icons of the Lord of Light?
  • I've got a feeling they all interpret the same God in different ways, and it'll somehow be revealed. To be Bran probably!
  • JiMMy 85 said:

    I've got a feeling they all interpret the same God in different ways, and it'll somehow be revealed. To be Bran probably!

    Exactly
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