Hundreds of the white walkers fell through the ice, so the rest stopped. The stone didn't piss them off, it showed the ice was thicker in that spot, so the walkers then cautiously advanced over the ice
So zombies can drown? Or were they worried they'd get hypothermia if they paddled through the water?
The White Walkers control the wights and presumably tbought having them all sink would be pointless.
Or they could have just done some light swimming. If they can attach industrial chains to a dragon sunk underwater I feel like they can do a touch of backstroke across a few yards. Never mind though
Tbh the way I saw it was that the Night King wasn't planning on killing Jon Snow's crew, he wanted to trap them and give them no choice but to bring the dragons in so he could kill one and have it for himself.
Hundreds of the white walkers fell through the ice, so the rest stopped. The stone didn't piss them off, it showed the ice was thicker in that spot, so the walkers then cautiously advanced over the ice
So zombies can drown? Or were they worried they'd get hypothermia if they paddled through the water?
The White Walkers control the wights and presumably tbought having them all sink would be pointless.
Or they could have just done some light swimming. If they can attach industrial chains to a dragon sunk underwater I feel like they can do a touch of backstroke across a few yards. Never mind though
Tbh the way I saw it was that the Night King wasn't planning on killing Jon Snow's crew, he wanted to trap them and give them no choice but to bring the dragons in so he could kill one and have it for himself.
How did he know they had Dragons in your opinion?
I personally felt he didn't want his soldiers charging into the icy water and freezing up... then I decided that couldn't be it as they had just walked into the water to fetch the dragon?
Plot holes galore this season... but we're not seeing every second of each scenario so I won't hold it against the creators too much, it's still interesting watching.
Hundreds of the white walkers fell through the ice, so the rest stopped. The stone didn't piss them off, it showed the ice was thicker in that spot, so the walkers then cautiously advanced over the ice
So zombies can drown? Or were they worried they'd get hypothermia if they paddled through the water?
The White Walkers control the wights and presumably tbought having them all sink would be pointless.
Or they could have just done some light swimming. If they can attach industrial chains to a dragon sunk underwater I feel like they can do a touch of backstroke across a few yards. Never mind though
Tbh the way I saw it was that the Night King wasn't planning on killing Jon Snow's crew, he wanted to trap them and give them no choice but to bring the dragons in so he could kill one and have it for himself.
How did he know they had Dragons in your opinion?
I personally felt he didn't want his soldiers charging into the icy water and freezing up... then I decided that couldn't be it as they had just walked into the water to fetch the dragon?
Plot holes galore this season... but we're not seeing every second of each scenario so I won't hold it against the creators too much, it's still interesting watching.
I feel like he's probably got similar abilities to Bran so he can see things. Like when Bran was spying on him with the ravens and he stared straight at him.
Hundreds of the white walkers fell through the ice, so the rest stopped. The stone didn't piss them off, it showed the ice was thicker in that spot, so the walkers then cautiously advanced over the ice
So zombies can drown? Or were they worried they'd get hypothermia if they paddled through the water?
The White Walkers control the wights and presumably tbought having them all sink would be pointless.
Or they could have just done some light swimming. If they can attach industrial chains to a dragon sunk underwater I feel like they can do a touch of backstroke across a few yards. Never mind though
Tbh the way I saw it was that the Night King wasn't planning on killing Jon Snow's crew, he wanted to trap them and give them no choice but to bring the dragons in so he could kill one and have it for himself.
How did he know they had Dragons in your opinion?
I personally felt he didn't want his soldiers charging into the icy water and freezing up... then I decided that couldn't be it as they had just walked into the water to fetch the dragon?
Plot holes galore this season... but we're not seeing every second of each scenario so I won't hold it against the creators too much, it's still interesting watching.
I feel like he's probably got similar abilities to Bran so he can see things. Like when Bran was spying on him with the ravens and he stared straight at him.
If the Night's King has 'greenseeing' abilities or some level of awareness we are not privy to, then his decision to wait for the dragon to arrive is clearly not a plot-hole.
Even if that's not the case - I would argue he waited until the enemy were freezing cold, tired and worn out. Seems sensible to me, rather than wasting hundreds of members of his army. He has literally no reason whatsoever to rush. Wasting a few dozen wights on bringing up a dragon also makes sense.
The night king has been waiting forever and has been alive for thousands of years. Waiting for a small group to freeze to death isn't really much of a bother or waste of time for him.
A couple of questions regarding the now ice dragon...
Can the Night King speak in order to say "dracarys"?
Will it still be able to breathe fire now that's it's ice or will it freeze everything rather than burn?
Ice dragons are meant are meant to breath frost in this world and are said to be far larger than 'normal' dragons. As to if it is a frost/wight/white walker dragon, your guess is as good as anybodies. I think it seems pretty similar to the bear and the zombie horses, so not a frost dragon.
Whatever it is, it has certainly raised the stakes. The group that ventured north of the Wall, possibly the most badass in westeros, struggled with a dead bear. How are they going to deal with a zombie dragon? Only zombie spiders seem a more terrifying prospect, well, to me at least. I still think @JiMMy 85 was on to something about the giant crossbows having a role to play, maybe with wildfire.
Hundreds of the white walkers fell through the ice, so the rest stopped. The stone didn't piss them off, it showed the ice was thicker in that spot, so the walkers then cautiously advanced over the ice
So zombies can drown? Or were they worried they'd get hypothermia if they paddled through the water?
The White Walkers control the wights and presumably tbought having them all sink would be pointless.
Or they could have just done some light swimming. If they can attach industrial chains to a dragon sunk underwater I feel like they can do a touch of backstroke across a few yards. Never mind though
Tbh the way I saw it was that the Night King wasn't planning on killing Jon Snow's crew, he wanted to trap them and give them no choice but to bring the dragons in so he could kill one and have it for himself.
How did he know they had Dragons in your opinion?
I personally felt he didn't want his soldiers charging into the icy water and freezing up... then I decided that couldn't be it as they had just walked into the water to fetch the dragon?
Plot holes galore this season... but we're not seeing every second of each scenario so I won't hold it against the creators too much, it's still interesting watching.
I feel like he's probably got similar abilities to Bran so he can see things. Like when Bran was spying on him with the ravens and he stared straight at him.
If the Night's King has 'greenseeing' abilities or some level of awareness we are not privy to, then his decision to wait for the dragon to arrive is clearly not a plot-hole.
Even if that's not the case - I would argue he waited until the enemy were freezing cold, tired and worn out. Seems sensible to me, rather than wasting hundreds of members of his army. He has literally no reason whatsoever to rush. Wasting a few dozen wights on bringing up a dragon also makes sense.
What's the feeling about this season which isn't based on the books written by the fat dork with the train drivers hat? Seems like a lot more action and less chit chat but plot holes galore. Personally I think last night's (or week's!) was the best episode they did so I prefer it.
What's the feeling about this season which isn't based on the books written by the fat dork with the train drivers hat? Seems like a lot more action and less chit chat but plot holes galore. Personally I think last night's (or week's!) was the best episode they did so I prefer it.
Its very different to earlier seasons where the plot and the characters were developed slowly and fairly carefully. It no longer makes any kind of sense and I'm just watching it for the great action sequences and bits of funny dialogue.
the arrows will be made from the "glass" mined by Jon Snow who still dont know much or in the words of the Hound "is a bit of a c--t".They will be shot at the deadf Dragon by one of the large cross bows
Most recently I read that Bran went back to before the Night King was turned and stayed in his body so long he got trapped and 'drowned' into the Night Kings mind. He didn't kill Jon at Hardhome because he recognised someone he cared about. He killed the Three Eyed Raven for hiding the prophecy from him and he will fly as the the three eyed raven said, just it'll be on Viserion Mk2 who will have grown much larger than Drogon (closer to Balerion's size)
Another theory I hold is potentially less weird... So likely in G R R R R R R R R R R R R Martin's mind.
Bran is not the Night King, but will Warg into Viserion and take it back in the final battle to earn his place as one of the three prophesied Dragon riders.
One thing that made no sense, we have seen the night king has a good ol throw on him, why didn't he throw a load of spears at the fellowship? Easy targets surely
I know you're just meant to enjoy it but the previous seasons were very cruel and had realistic moments of happiness and sadness which made the show what it is, it's gone a bit Hollywood action now
One thing that made no sense, we have seen the night king has a good ol throw on him, why didn't he throw a load of spears at the fellowship? Easy targets surely
I know you're just meant to enjoy it but the previous seasons were very cruel and had realistic moments of happiness and sadness which made the show what it is, it's gone a bit Hollywood action now
What's the feeling about this season which isn't based on the books written by the fat dork with the train drivers hat? Seems like a lot more action and less chit chat but plot holes galore. Personally I think last night's (or week's!) was the best episode they did so I prefer it.
Its very different to earlier seasons where the plot and the characters were developed slowly and fairly carefully. It no longer makes any kind of sense and I'm just watching it for the great action sequences and bits of funny dialogue.
I guess I'm one of those people who likes to switch their mind off when they're not working and gets easily distracted. I can't remember most of the characters names so the mindless action scenes are what I prefer. For reference some of my favourite films include Freddy V Jason and Snakes on a Plane.
One thing that made no sense, we have seen the night king has a good ol throw on him, why didn't he throw a load of spears at the fellowship? Easy targets surely
I know you're just meant to enjoy it but the previous seasons were very cruel and had realistic moments of happiness and sadness which made the show what it is, it's gone a bit Hollywood action now
Theory is he didn't kill them because then Dany wouldn't have continued the rescue mission and simply would've left. Essentially he can see the future like Bran.
What confuses me on that part though is why he didn't spear the Dragon on the ground , or hurry for that matter , because he would've been able to get at least two Dragons that way.
What I don't understand is why the people filming all of this action just don't stop the Night King throwing the spear - they must have been so close to him.
One thing that made no sense, we have seen the night king has a good ol throw on him, why didn't he throw a load of spears at the fellowship?
I think I am now done with this thread.
This thread is filled with people who lack any kind of suspension of belief or those that like to complain about just about anything.
The point is though, when it's at its best, GoT avoids these problems because although it is set in a fantasy world with magic, zombies, reincarnation and dragons, the characters within it act rationally and with logic and it has always taken the time to build the story in a way that means the way the main players have acted makes sense. For some reason, it has stopped doing that this series and has been rushing through the story and used a few too many tired old tropes.
I don't get the problem with people coming onto a thread specifically designed for discussing GoT in order to discuss how they feel it has lost some of what makes it such a great show.
One thing that made no sense, we have seen the night king has a good ol throw on him, why didn't he throw a load of spears at the fellowship?
I think I am now done with this thread.
This thread is filled with people who lack any kind of suspension of belief or those that like to complain about just about anything.
No it isn't. This thread is filled with honest critiques on episodes and a lot of discussion about plot points and future storylines. I love this thread, it's filled with a lot of good conversations and it's one of my favourites on CL at the moment. I think it's a bit stupid to think that people who have watched 7 seasons of a show about dragons, ice zombies, characters who can come back to life, zombie knights, little girls who can wear other people's faces and paraplegic psychic children lack suspension of disbelief. We just like to discuss the show, both the good and bad points
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I personally felt he didn't want his soldiers charging into the icy water and freezing up... then I decided that couldn't be it as they had just walked into the water to fetch the dragon?
Plot holes galore this season... but we're not seeing every second of each scenario so I won't hold it against the creators too much, it's still interesting watching.
Even if that's not the case - I would argue he waited until the enemy were freezing cold, tired and worn out. Seems sensible to me, rather than wasting hundreds of members of his army. He has literally no reason whatsoever to rush. Wasting a few dozen wights on bringing up a dragon also makes sense.
Whatever it is, it has certainly raised the stakes. The group that ventured north of the Wall, possibly the most badass in westeros, struggled with a dead bear. How are they going to deal with a zombie dragon? Only zombie spiders seem a more terrifying prospect, well, to me at least. I still think @JiMMy 85 was on to something about the giant crossbows having a role to play, maybe with wildfire.
Most recently I read that Bran went back to before the Night King was turned and stayed in his body so long he got trapped and 'drowned' into the Night Kings mind. He didn't kill Jon at Hardhome because he recognised someone he cared about. He killed the Three Eyed Raven for hiding the prophecy from him and he will fly as the the three eyed raven said, just it'll be on Viserion Mk2 who will have grown much larger than Drogon (closer to Balerion's size)
Another theory I hold is potentially less weird... So likely in G R R R R R R R R R R R R Martin's mind.
Bran is not the Night King, but will Warg into Viserion and take it back in the final battle to earn his place as one of the three prophesied Dragon riders.
Told Arya that 'lots of c**ts' name their swords, and Jon told Arya 'All the best swords have names' when he gave her Needle.
I know you're just meant to enjoy it but the previous seasons were very cruel and had realistic moments of happiness and sadness which made the show what it is, it's gone a bit Hollywood action now
What confuses me on that part though is why he didn't spear the Dragon on the ground , or hurry for that matter , because he would've been able to get at least two Dragons that way.
I don't get the problem with people coming onto a thread specifically designed for discussing GoT in order to discuss how they feel it has lost some of what makes it such a great show.