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  • Absolute shit show, none of the staff at Victoria wanted to tell anyone anything as they weren’t being kept up to date themselves.

  • Emergency Services are dealing with a serious incident at Welling Station this afternoon. Officers from British transport Police along with paramedics from South East coast ambulance Service are currently attending a platform that has been cordoned off by station staff after it is understood a man has been fallen between a train. The condition of the man is currently unknown. Services into Welling are severely restricted.
    A spokesman for BTP said: A man had a lucky escape after falling between a train and the platform around 1:40pm this afternoon. The man fell into the gap between the train and platform without suffering any injuries. An air ambulance was called out but not needed.
  • Someone doesn't get injured at 1.40pm and the entire network is still fucked 6 hours later!
  • Emergency Services are dealing with a serious incident at Welling Station this afternoon. Officers from British transport Police along with paramedics from South East coast ambulance Service are currently attending a platform that has been cordoned off by station staff after it is understood a man has been fallen between a train. The condition of the man is currently unknown. Services into Welling are severely restricted.
    A spokesman for BTP said: A man had a lucky escape after falling between a train and the platform around 1:40pm this afternoon. The man fell into the gap between the train and platform without suffering any injuries. An air ambulance was called out but not needed.

    This has happened before at Welling (not too long ago if I remember rightly). They obviously need to look at the train to platform distance and dimension.
  • about 6/7 year ago was on an early am train into london and somebody fell under the train at albany park we sat on the train for about 2 hours before being allowed off.
  • Emergency Services are dealing with a serious incident at Welling Station this afternoon. Officers from British transport Police along with paramedics from South East coast ambulance Service are currently attending a platform that has been cordoned off by station staff after it is understood a man has been fallen between a train. The condition of the man is currently unknown. Services into Welling are severely restricted.
    A spokesman for BTP said: A man had a lucky escape after falling between a train and the platform around 1:40pm this afternoon. The man fell into the gap between the train and platform without suffering any injuries. An air ambulance was called out but not needed.

    This has happened before at Welling (not too long ago if I remember rightly). They obviously need to look at the train to platform distance and dimension.
    The gap between platform and train is fairly large at Welling, both vertically and horizontally.
  • Is it platform 2 at Lewisham that has the big gap?

    you have to be Bob Beamon to get on some of the carriages.
  • Emergency Services are dealing with a serious incident at Welling Station this afternoon. Officers from British transport Police along with paramedics from South East coast ambulance Service are currently attending a platform that has been cordoned off by station staff after it is understood a man has been fallen between a train. The condition of the man is currently unknown. Services into Welling are severely restricted.
    A spokesman for BTP said: A man had a lucky escape after falling between a train and the platform around 1:40pm this afternoon. The man fell into the gap between the train and platform without suffering any injuries. An air ambulance was called out but not needed.

    It happened well after this time. I was travelling to see family and passed through Welling just as the incident happened (@ roughly 15.30) and saw a group of youngsters f*cking about on the platform, 'brapping' and 'popping' at each other.

    Next thing you know a train pulls in and one of the brappers fell between the train and the platform edge due to messing about.

    It's a shame that no injury (minor) occurred as he'll no doubt now be laughing about it with his mates with absolutely no lessons learned.

    Complete waste of emergency services and vital resources.
  • Is it platform 2 at Lewisham that has the big gap?

    you have to be Bob Beamon to get on some of the carriages.

    Yes it is, nearly got a groin strain getting on the train there.
  • 'brapping' and 'popping' ?
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    'brapping' and 'popping' ?

    As in 'brap, brap, pop, pop' whilst mimicking a gun with two fingers.

    It's very common amongst the linguistically challenged youth culture.
  • 'brapping' and 'popping' ?

    As in 'brap, brap, pop, pop' whilst mimicking a gun with two fingers.

    It's very common amongst the linguistically challenged youth culture.
    Jesus wept :(
  • 'brapping' and 'popping' ?

    As in 'brap, brap, pop, pop' whilst mimicking a gun with two fingers.

    It's very common amongst the linguistically challenged youth culture.
    Jesus wept :(
    So would you if someone whacked nails through your hands.
    He deserved it after he tried to pick a fight with the Romans in the Jerusalem branch of MAKRO's Car Park
  • 'brapping' and 'popping' ?

    As in 'brap, brap, pop, pop' whilst mimicking a gun with two fingers.

    It's very common amongst the linguistically challenged youth culture.
    So you make a gun impression and jump down a gap between a train and associated platform?
    very original, although doesn't come across as too threatening.
    More suicidal.
  • Bloke in his 60s was killed yesterday at Welling. Poor fellow. RIP
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  • RIP to the poor gentleman concerned.

    The Jubilee Line at London Bridge (and probably elsewhere on the Jubilee Line extension) has a glass wall all along the platform, with electronic doors that only open when a train is stationary at the platform. Impossible to be hit by a train. Don't understand why this hasn't been rolled out elsewhere on the tube or on the rail network. It's not complicated, and I doubt it's prohibitively expensive. General attitude seems to be that people being hit by a train or falling on the tracks are an occupational hazard.
  • edited November 2018
    MrLargo said:

    RIP to the poor gentleman concerned.

    The Jubilee Line at London Bridge (and probably elsewhere on the Jubilee Line extension) has a glass wall all along the platform, with electronic doors that only open when a train is stationary at the platform. Impossible to be hit by a train. Don't understand why this hasn't been rolled out elsewhere on the tube or on the rail network. It's not complicated, and I doubt it's prohibitively expensive. General attitude seems to be that people being hit by a train or falling on the tracks are an occupational hazard.

    I suppose the beauty of them being on the Jubilee Line is the fact that being underground those glass doors go up to the ceiling so you cant get through apart from at the likes of Stratford - You're right, they should be on all Underground lines yet cant see how they'd work on rail stations as people would just find a way to climb over them
  • Not to mention you see people spreading out on the likes of Bexleyheath Station in the hope of the doors opening in a different place from where they usually do - By having doors people would congregate at them and so not give any room anywhere else on the bloody platform and so take the request of "can you move down" to off the train and not just on it
  • How many actual incidents were there are on the Bexleyheath line yesterday?
  • 'brapping' and 'popping' ?

    As in 'brap, brap, pop, pop' whilst mimicking a gun with two fingers.

    It's very common amongst the linguistically challenged youth culture.
    And there's an awful lot of them about in my experience.

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    MrLargo said:

    RIP to the poor gentleman concerned.

    The Jubilee Line at London Bridge (and probably elsewhere on the Jubilee Line extension) has a glass wall all along the platform, with electronic doors that only open when a train is stationary at the platform. Impossible to be hit by a train. Don't understand why this hasn't been rolled out elsewhere on the tube or on the rail network. It's not complicated, and I doubt it's prohibitively expensive. General attitude seems to be that people being hit by a train or falling on the tracks are an occupational hazard.

    Very expensive to be fair as a lot of platforms are not robust enough to take the weight of the doors.
  • MrLargo said:

    RIP to the poor gentleman concerned.

    The Jubilee Line at London Bridge (and probably elsewhere on the Jubilee Line extension) has a glass wall all along the platform, with electronic doors that only open when a train is stationary at the platform. Impossible to be hit by a train. Don't understand why this hasn't been rolled out elsewhere on the tube or on the rail network. It's not complicated, and I doubt it's prohibitively expensive. General attitude seems to be that people being hit by a train or falling on the tracks are an occupational hazard.

    Come on Mr L you know better than this, by the time South Eastern have paid a dividend to all their shareholders, a bonus to all the Directors and Senior Managers, topped up their pensions and held a lavish Christmas party in Tuscany there will not be enough left to replace the door on the waiting room at St Marys Cray.
  • MrLargo said:

    RIP to the poor gentleman concerned.

    The Jubilee Line at London Bridge (and probably elsewhere on the Jubilee Line extension) has a glass wall all along the platform, with electronic doors that only open when a train is stationary at the platform. Impossible to be hit by a train. Don't understand why this hasn't been rolled out elsewhere on the tube or on the rail network. It's not complicated, and I doubt it's prohibitively expensive. General attitude seems to be that people being hit by a train or falling on the tracks are an occupational hazard.

    Come on Mr L you know better than this, by the time South Eastern have paid a dividend to all their shareholders, a bonus to all the Directors and Senior Managers, topped up their pensions and held a lavish Christmas party in Tuscany there will not be enough left to replace the door on the waiting room at St Marys Cray.
    Too true Mike. You could run a medium-sized country with the amount they spend on tea and biscuits.

    "Shall we invest in passenger safety or sit down for a cuppa?"

    "Put the kettle on Dave, and never ever utter such blasphemy in this office again."
  • MrLargo said:

    MrLargo said:

    Been doing the journey for about the same time as AFKA (27 years), first 22 on the Sidcup line and last 5 on the chislehurst line. Can honestly say that the Chis line absolutely pisses all over the Sidcup line (despite what Bob Neill tweets) and my last 5 years of commuting have been a breeze!

    I get on the 6:27 from Orpington each morning and more often than not it will arrive at Charing Cross a few minutes early.
    Always get a seat at a table, plenty of leg room and aircon is always working when needed.
    In the evening I get the 16:14 in the other direction and have the same drama less trip in the other direction.

    God only knows what has gone on the other lines into town, I can only think the that the Fat Controller lives somewhere on my line or you others have upset him big time and now he's giving it back to you in spades.
    They generally run okay on all the lines at that time of the morning. Try travelling a couple of hours later, when they've had a train failure at West Malling and a shortage of available train crew at Robertsbridge and taken the executive decision that that's justification for departing or cancelling every train on the network for the next 6 hours.
    Well I travel later in the day in the other direction and they leave 99% of the time without any problem. I wont say I never have a cancellation or a delay but anytime I travel, weekends included they are reliable.
    That line is a success story for the rail industry.
    You're effectively travelling outside rush hour, exactly the same as I do. I get into work for 8am and leave at 4pm. I'd rather do 9 to 5, but the trains are generally useless at that time of day, particularly in the morning.

    South Eastern does prioritise the Mainline services going through London Bridge, at the expense of all of us on the Metro services who are still "congested in the London Bridge area" despite the completion of a a £6bn project to alleviate that problem, so that also contributes to the reasonable standard of service that you receive. I'd hardly call it "a success story for the rail industry" though, when they can only achieve a reasonable service for you by providing a horrendous service for people on shorter journeys.

    Also, over £2,000 a year for a 30 mile round trip - I wouldn't call that a success story, I'd call that a gigantic piss take. I'm sure South Eastern class it as a success story though, while they're lining their pockets with our cash.
    The buggers cancelled my train tonight.
    I take back all my gloating.
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