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Southeastern train disruption (franchise to be taken over by Govt p191)

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  • Very good although ‘since my wife left me because I always left so early in the mornings and got back so late in the evenings, as a non-southeastern commuter she assumed I was having an affair:’ would make a reasonable addition.
  • MrLargo said:

    RIP to the poor gentleman concerned.

    The Jubilee Line at London Bridge (and probably elsewhere on the Jubilee Line extension) has a glass wall all along the platform, with electronic doors that only open when a train is stationary at the platform. Impossible to be hit by a train. Don't understand why this hasn't been rolled out elsewhere on the tube or on the rail network. It's not complicated, and I doubt it's prohibitively expensive. General attitude seems to be that people being hit by a train or falling on the tracks are an occupational hazard.

    TfL are having subsidies cut at a huge rate.
    They have closed all Ticket Offices and are looking to lease these as shops.
    Exterior Media are in for a big lump upgrading their advertising throughout.
    LU are basically having to be self sufficient.
    There is no way they have the money to accomplish this.
    I would guess £350k per platform times +700 platforms
    Add to this the fact the station would have to be closed to allow these works to happen (well the platform anyway), for around 3 months per platform.
    Never going to happen.
    New build, yes. Existing, no.
  • Very good although ‘since my wife left me because I always left so early in the mornings and got back so late in the evenings, as a non-southeastern commuter she assumed I was having an affair:’ would make a reasonable addition.

    This almost sounds like the opening of a blues song.;-)
  • MrLargo said:

    RIP to the poor gentleman concerned.

    The Jubilee Line at London Bridge (and probably elsewhere on the Jubilee Line extension) has a glass wall all along the platform, with electronic doors that only open when a train is stationary at the platform. Impossible to be hit by a train. Don't understand why this hasn't been rolled out elsewhere on the tube or on the rail network. It's not complicated, and I doubt it's prohibitively expensive. General attitude seems to be that people being hit by a train or falling on the tracks are an occupational hazard.

    TfL are having subsidies cut at a huge rate.
    They have closed all Ticket Offices and are looking to lease these as shops.
    Exterior Media are in for a big lump upgrading their advertising throughout.
    LU are basically having to be self sufficient.
    There is no way they have the money to accomplish this.
    I would guess £350k per platform times +700 platforms
    Add to this the fact the station would have to be closed to allow these works to happen (well the platform anyway), for around 3 months per platform.
    Never going to happen.
    New build, yes. Existing, no.
    They doors on the Jubilee line aren't really there for safety reasons anyway! I don't think they have them at Canning Town.

    "The Jubilee line extension project saw platform screen doors installed on its new stations that were underground. In contrast to other systems, where PSDs and PEDs are installed primarily for safety reasons, the Jubilee line PSDs were designed primarily to reduce the movement of air caused by emergency ventilation fans. As a secondary function, they also act as barriers to prevent people from falling onto the tracks."

  • MrLargo said:

    RIP to the poor gentleman concerned.

    The Jubilee Line at London Bridge (and probably elsewhere on the Jubilee Line extension) has a glass wall all along the platform, with electronic doors that only open when a train is stationary at the platform. Impossible to be hit by a train. Don't understand why this hasn't been rolled out elsewhere on the tube or on the rail network. It's not complicated, and I doubt it's prohibitively expensive. General attitude seems to be that people being hit by a train or falling on the tracks are an occupational hazard.

    TfL are having subsidies cut at a huge rate.
    They have closed all Ticket Offices and are looking to lease these as shops.
    Exterior Media are in for a big lump upgrading their advertising throughout.
    LU are basically having to be self sufficient.
    There is no way they have the money to accomplish this.
    I would guess £350k per platform times +700 platforms
    Add to this the fact the station would have to be closed to allow these works to happen (well the platform anyway), for around 3 months per platform.
    Never going to happen.
    New build, yes. Existing, no.
    They doors on the Jubilee line aren't really there for safety reasons anyway! I don't think they have them at Canning Town.

    "The Jubilee line extension project saw platform screen doors installed on its new stations that were underground. In contrast to other systems, where PSDs and PEDs are installed primarily for safety reasons, the Jubilee line PSDs were designed primarily to reduce the movement of air caused by emergency ventilation fans. As a secondary function, they also act as barriers to prevent people from falling onto the tracks."

    I've always found this weird, health and safety people lose their minds if you don't hold onto a hand rail going up half-a-dozen steps, but you're allowed to stand 6 inches away from the oncoming tube train with people jostling around behind you at rush hour.
  • Thats why people who take H&S for a living are usually failures within the business they are employed.
    I dont like them very much (and i have got a NEBOSH certificate).
    In fact, I hate them.
  • Mmmmmmm.........piss steam
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  • MrLargo said:

    RIP to the poor gentleman concerned.

    The Jubilee Line at London Bridge (and probably elsewhere on the Jubilee Line extension) has a glass wall all along the platform, with electronic doors that only open when a train is stationary at the platform. Impossible to be hit by a train. Don't understand why this hasn't been rolled out elsewhere on the tube or on the rail network. It's not complicated, and I doubt it's prohibitively expensive. General attitude seems to be that people being hit by a train or falling on the tracks are an occupational hazard.

    TfL are having subsidies cut at a huge rate.
    They have closed all Ticket Offices and are looking to lease these as shops.
    Exterior Media are in for a big lump upgrading their advertising throughout.
    LU are basically having to be self sufficient.
    There is no way they have the money to accomplish this.
    I would guess £350k per platform times +700 platforms
    Add to this the fact the station would have to be closed to allow these works to happen (well the platform anyway), for around 3 months per platform.
    Never going to happen.
    New build, yes. Existing, no.
    They doors on the Jubilee line aren't really there for safety reasons anyway! I don't think they have them at Canning Town.

    "The Jubilee line extension project saw platform screen doors installed on its new stations that were underground. In contrast to other systems, where PSDs and PEDs are installed primarily for safety reasons, the Jubilee line PSDs were designed primarily to reduce the movement of air caused by emergency ventilation fans. As a secondary function, they also act as barriers to prevent people from falling onto the tracks."

    I've always found this weird, health and safety people lose their minds if you don't hold onto a hand rail going up half-a-dozen steps, but you're allowed to stand 6 inches away from the oncoming tube train with people jostling around behind you at rush hour.
    they have painted a yellow line to be fair.
  • MrLargo said:

    RIP to the poor gentleman concerned.

    The Jubilee Line at London Bridge (and probably elsewhere on the Jubilee Line extension) has a glass wall all along the platform, with electronic doors that only open when a train is stationary at the platform. Impossible to be hit by a train. Don't understand why this hasn't been rolled out elsewhere on the tube or on the rail network. It's not complicated, and I doubt it's prohibitively expensive. General attitude seems to be that people being hit by a train or falling on the tracks are an occupational hazard.

    TfL are having subsidies cut at a huge rate.
    They have closed all Ticket Offices and are looking to lease these as shops.
    Exterior Media are in for a big lump upgrading their advertising throughout.
    LU are basically having to be self sufficient.
    There is no way they have the money to accomplish this.
    I would guess £350k per platform times +700 platforms
    Add to this the fact the station would have to be closed to allow these works to happen (well the platform anyway), for around 3 months per platform.
    Never going to happen.
    New build, yes. Existing, no.
    They doors on the Jubilee line aren't really there for safety reasons anyway! I don't think they have them at Canning Town.

    "The Jubilee line extension project saw platform screen doors installed on its new stations that were underground. In contrast to other systems, where PSDs and PEDs are installed primarily for safety reasons, the Jubilee line PSDs were designed primarily to reduce the movement of air caused by emergency ventilation fans. As a secondary function, they also act as barriers to prevent people from falling onto the tracks."

    Crossrail platforms in the central section all have them.
  • FUCKING CUNT SHITS!!!

    Get to St Pancras tonight... My train is at Platform 11; waiting an age for the doors to open whilst its being announced that it'll leave at 17:16.

    Finally the doors open yet announcement comes over that its the Margate train that dont stop @ Strood... Have to get off and ask a guard where the 17:16 is only to be told that is gone and was parked up in front of the one I was on

    No pissing announcements, no signs to say that - Well done South Eastern you've bloody proven how pissing useless you are once again!!!!

    Lol, I am not a commuter but at the London main terminals I always check the length of the train in case they are double parked and it is a given if the doors are not opening minutes before the train is due to leave it aint the train I want to get on.
  • Proper scummers.

    My carriage this morning I can only assume had an employee not drink any fluids for a week, get so dehydrated that they pissed syrup all over the heaters and then turn it up to full blast.

    The stench is overwhelming.

    That's the Bexleyheath line for you.
  • FUCKING CUNT SHITS!!!

    Get to St Pancras tonight... My train is at Platform 11; waiting an age for the doors to open whilst its being announced that it'll leave at 17:16.

    Finally the doors open yet announcement comes over that its the Margate train that dont stop @ Strood... Have to get off and ask a guard where the 17:16 is only to be told that is gone and was parked up in front of the one I was on

    No pissing announcements, no signs to say that - Well done South Eastern you've bloody proven how pissing useless you are once again!!!!

    Lol, I am not a commuter but at the London main terminals I always check the length of the train in case they are double parked and it is a given if the doors are not opening minutes before the train is due to leave it aint the train I want to get on.
    To be honest I've not been a commuter for a few years now yet for the eight years that I was this never happened - Whenever I have experienced it though (outside of work commuting) you always seem to get the tannoy announcements of "the front 6-carriages are going to X, the back 6-carriages are going to Y"

    Granted it is partly my own fault as I'll tend to walk down to the front of the train (Had I done that I'd have seen the back of my train) so that when I reach Strood the doors open where the barriers are but I was exhausted last night and my back has been killing me (thanks to a trapped nerve) and didnt have the energy to walk down there

    As for the doors not opening I guess thats the reputation SouthEastern have given themselves these days as equally presumed it was due to a fault with the train or because the driver hadnt shown up yet
  • FUCKING CUNT SHITS!!!

    Get to St Pancras tonight... My train is at Platform 11; waiting an age for the doors to open whilst its being announced that it'll leave at 17:16.

    Finally the doors open yet announcement comes over that its the Margate train that dont stop @ Strood... Have to get off and ask a guard where the 17:16 is only to be told that is gone and was parked up in front of the one I was on

    No pissing announcements, no signs to say that - Well done South Eastern you've bloody proven how pissing useless you are once again!!!!

    Lol, I am not a commuter but at the London main terminals I always check the length of the train in case they are double parked and it is a given if the doors are not opening minutes before the train is due to leave it aint the train I want to get on.
    Doors not opening is hardly unusual on Southeastern. This is a company that displays trains as being 'On Time' when they are due to depart in 1 minute and have yet to even reach the station!
  • Rizzo said:

    FUCKING CUNT SHITS!!!

    Get to St Pancras tonight... My train is at Platform 11; waiting an age for the doors to open whilst its being announced that it'll leave at 17:16.

    Finally the doors open yet announcement comes over that its the Margate train that dont stop @ Strood... Have to get off and ask a guard where the 17:16 is only to be told that is gone and was parked up in front of the one I was on

    No pissing announcements, no signs to say that - Well done South Eastern you've bloody proven how pissing useless you are once again!!!!

    Lol, I am not a commuter but at the London main terminals I always check the length of the train in case they are double parked and it is a given if the doors are not opening minutes before the train is due to leave it aint the train I want to get on.
    Doors not opening is hardly unusual on Southeastern. This is a company that displays trains as being 'On Time' when they are due to depart in 1 minute and have yet to even reach the station!
    And frequently show trains as having "Arrived" on the boards at Cannon Street when there's no train on the platform and no sign of one down the tracks, as if nobody would notice. I think I'll start a photo album of their invisible "arrived" trains.
  • In addition you quite often get during their delays the boards changing as though there is nothing wrong and its a service running on time

    i.e. the train that is due will appear on the Board for Platform X, wont arrive yet the board will change to the next train due in on that Platform - Of course it creates confusion when the original train finally arrives on that platform because no one then knows its its the original train that was due or whether its the train on time thats arrived
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  • MrLargo said:

    Curb_It said:

    MrLargo said:

    Rizzo said:

    FUCKING CUNT SHITS!!!

    Get to St Pancras tonight... My train is at Platform 11; waiting an age for the doors to open whilst its being announced that it'll leave at 17:16.

    Finally the doors open yet announcement comes over that its the Margate train that dont stop @ Strood... Have to get off and ask a guard where the 17:16 is only to be told that is gone and was parked up in front of the one I was on

    No pissing announcements, no signs to say that - Well done South Eastern you've bloody proven how pissing useless you are once again!!!!

    Lol, I am not a commuter but at the London main terminals I always check the length of the train in case they are double parked and it is a given if the doors are not opening minutes before the train is due to leave it aint the train I want to get on.
    Doors not opening is hardly unusual on Southeastern. This is a company that displays trains as being 'On Time' when they are due to depart in 1 minute and have yet to even reach the station!
    And frequently show trains as having "Arrived" on the boards at Cannon Street when there's no train on the platform and no sign of one down the tracks, as if nobody would notice. I think I'll start a photo album of their invisible "arrived" trains.
    I noticed a guy behind me take a picture of the 5.49 Arrived sign, with an empty platform. Wasn't you Largo was it?

    Nope, not me. Did you get his phone number? I need to meet this man, possibly over a candlelit dinner.
    You need to let us know how the candlelit dinner goes so we can eagerly await the Holiday thread where your bemoaning about the fact he goes into every gift shop, listens to shite music and leaves you sore every morning!!
  • MrLargo said:

    MrLargo said:

    Curb_It said:

    MrLargo said:

    Rizzo said:

    FUCKING CUNT SHITS!!!

    Get to St Pancras tonight... My train is at Platform 11; waiting an age for the doors to open whilst its being announced that it'll leave at 17:16.

    Finally the doors open yet announcement comes over that its the Margate train that dont stop @ Strood... Have to get off and ask a guard where the 17:16 is only to be told that is gone and was parked up in front of the one I was on

    No pissing announcements, no signs to say that - Well done South Eastern you've bloody proven how pissing useless you are once again!!!!

    Lol, I am not a commuter but at the London main terminals I always check the length of the train in case they are double parked and it is a given if the doors are not opening minutes before the train is due to leave it aint the train I want to get on.
    Doors not opening is hardly unusual on Southeastern. This is a company that displays trains as being 'On Time' when they are due to depart in 1 minute and have yet to even reach the station!
    And frequently show trains as having "Arrived" on the boards at Cannon Street when there's no train on the platform and no sign of one down the tracks, as if nobody would notice. I think I'll start a photo album of their invisible "arrived" trains.
    I noticed a guy behind me take a picture of the 5.49 Arrived sign, with an empty platform. Wasn't you Largo was it?

    Nope, not me. Did you get his phone number? I need to meet this man, possibly over a candlelit dinner.
    You need to let us know how the candlelit dinner goes so we can eagerly await the Holiday thread where your bemoaning about the fact he goes into every gift shop, listens to shite music and leaves you sore every morning!!
    Don't think it would turn out like that mate, this guy sounds like a perfect match for me. I'm sure that, like me, his dream holiday would involve dressing up as a beekeeper and breaking into David Statham's (SouthEastern CEO) office, armed only with a crate of angry wasps and 6 litres of jam. We'd probably drag in the tosser that administers their Twitter account as well, just for good measure.
    Then he could be the opposite person to you who hates trains and gets angry when they occupy platforms because he cant take photos of the tracks... Ultimately I'm probably thinking far too deeply about this but then again its Friday
  • Southern/Thameslink/South Western making South Eastern look competent at the moment.
  • edited November 2018
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  • MrLargo said:

    This thread had dropped down to page 5. If aliens landed on Earth and immediately logged onto Charlton Life, they would presume that South Eastern Trains aren't actually that bad.

    However, if aliens landed on Earth this morning and immediately tried to get a train from St Johns to Cannon Street, they'd find that everything's fucked, the bird in the ticket office has pulled the blind down so she doesn't have to answer awkward questions like "where's my f#$king train?", and their multi-million pound passenger information system that they were boasting about a few months ago is showing "delayed" but with no indication of how long for. If it's 8.39 and my train was due at 8.31, I can work out for myself that it's "delayed", you stupid tossers.

    If there's management knocking around at Cannon Street when I finally get there, they're getting the middle finger and all the swear words I know. C#%ts.

    Don't ever change

    Of course all the while southeastern continue to fuck with your chi there is no danger of that happening
  • Can MrLargo re-negotiate Brexit for us - absolute hero! Voice of the Voiceless, the people’s champion

    As long as he doesn't go to the meetings by train!
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