We are becoming less and less attractive as time goes on, my tingly senses are heightening, unless Roland passes us some of SL's top boys I can't foresee us bettering this season, would love to eat my words. Our only experience playing at a good level in Championship will be from within our current squad, and some of them will be going. Stick with Riga and lets move forward, Roly.
Underwhelmed by this news if true. Disappointed that Riga has not got the job. A new person (with a mixed record) to get used to who may or may not be any good with some potentially new players who may or may not be any good.
Unclear how many new mediocre network players will end up at the club and then this time the head coach (employed as a yes man / puppet) be expected to be forced to play them. Will the Head coach have any remit to resist ?
Zilch reassurance or communication from the club naturally. All as clear as mud then.
Cheers needed a good laugh: My favourite 2 so far:
Posted 21/5/2014 08:16 #1377260 - in reply to #1377247 Subject: Re: Bob Peeters NW
can't believe how s**t anoraks are these days
Posted 21/5/2014 08:25 #1377264 - in reply to #1377260 Subject: Re: Bob Peeters NW
Minus the average away support and free tickets at The Valley and they average around the same as us these days...but by charging about a third less.
Well it's a fact that we take more in gate receipts than you. You're not a premier league club anymore you know.
Nice try but it's not true. Your matchday income (£5.4m) was only £200,000 short of Charlton's in 2012/13 (£5.6m, eighth best in the division) because it included your share from an FA Cup semi-final at Wembley and whatever you earned in the run to get there.
In 2011/12 Millwall's matchday income was £4.6m in the Championship - Charlton's was £5.1m in League One.
It is true Millwall fans pay more on average (and more than fans of most other Championship clubs) and it may be the correct strategy for the club given its relative inability to expand its support. But it does not as a matter of fact generate more income than Charlton's approach does for Charlton.
Back on topic, who'd have guessed the best men for the job the next two times it came up after Powell left were both Belgians?
Fair enough, got gate receipts and turn over mixed up tbh. 13/14 our turn over was bigger than yours. Granted, the cup run probably helped this a bit, but to be honest, I still thought your turn over would double ours seeing as you're such a massive club and we're little old Smallwall. (You had the fifth smallest turn over in the championship in 13/14)
Given that the difference in turnover is more than explained by additional media income of £1.6m it's all about the FA Cup in 2012/13. I don't think you mean 2013/14, as it's not even over yet (June 30th year end).
The reason (parachute payments apart) both clubs perform badly relative to the rest of the division in turnover is other commercial income - Millwall £1.7m and Charlton £2.2m, respectively 24th and 22nd. The reasons for that are not for this thread but are not in my view a coincidence.
Don't understand all this wrist slitting negativity. Yes I too would have been happy if Riga stayed on but for reasons we don't know he hasn't. We half expected that anyway.
Given that any new appointment was going to be an unknown non British manager why are people not happy with the appointment when truly none of us have any idea of this blokes likelihood to be good or otherwise. Just like Riga's appointment. Just like Powells appointment and completely opposite to the appointment of Alan Pardew who everybody lauded and wanted. Good old super Al.
Can't we just give this guy a chance before we condemn him.
As far as I can see he's only crime is having played for Millwall and not being Jose Riga.
He gets my 100% support. Welcome Bob.
Well said SHG. I'm just catching up with this (potential) news and am surprised by the negativity on here. I liked Riga and I hope he stays at Charlton either as Director of Football or in some kind of role overseeing youth development - but RD isn't a mug and I think he would have been very thoughtful about who would be best to take us forward as Head Coach. We wanted a swift appointment so we can get on with re-building the team, and this, if confirmed, gives us that. Look at it this way:
Chris Powell and Charlton was a love match, leading to a marriage that went sour.
Jose Riga and Charlton was a mad, passionate, no-strings, fling.
Bob Peeters and Charlton might just be the real thing. Let's at least wait and see how things unfold.
@GlennVeirman:@CAFCofficial loves to work with youngsters and is great in tactical views. Had a bad luck run 2 yrs ago being fired 2x in 1 yr
@GlennVeirman: @CAFCofficial but I really think he is a well talented manager and it was really bad luck. I think hell be great at charlton
@BeNeFoot: @TheLikael He's a 'nice guy'. Good season with Cercle Brugge a while ago but hasn't really had much luck for a couple of seasons now.
@BeNeFoot: @TheLikael Despite Cercle's downturn and an awful spell at Gent, he kept Waasland-Beveren up and remains well regarded.
@BeNeFoot: @TheLikael Riga is as much a coach who develops young players as a first-team manager hence his move.
@BeNeFoot: @TheLikael KAA Gent appointed him as he'd worked with the youth before but was too soon after his sacking from Cercle.
@BeNeFoot: Bob Peeters led Waasland-Beveren out of the relegation zone (PO3) and to safety (14th/16), securing wins at Genk and Club Brugge. #cafc
@BelgoFoot: Riga doesn.t want to stay at Charlton, being incorporated into AC Milan's staff. (If right, HLN on the ball as usual). I find Riga-Milan odd
We shall see.....way too early to judge I feel. I would've liked Riga to stay based on the time he had here. The positives for me are
- we're getting this sorted early. An appointment by the end of the week gives the guy plenty of time to build for next season - as people have pointed out, he's outside RD's network, so there must be something in him to convince RD giving him the job and probably paying compensation - as a general statement, continental football is better technically than it is in England. This guy may be a continuation of the type of football Riga was trying to introduce - he's played over in England for the scum. He's not likely to be completely caught cold by the physicality and demanding nature of the league
If you wanted to touch upon negatives, you can point to the obvious, 'who the bloody hell is he', yet I'd never heard of Riga prior to him coming to Charlton. I appreciate a general feeling of uncertainty. As a club we are used to stability and people often refer back to 'their Charlton'. However, I will not be making any judgement about his suitability until I have seen the first few months of next season.
I'll get behind Peeters regardless as he is representing us, CAFC.
However, my biggest worry is that what does this appointment say to the likes of Poyet / Morrison etc.
I fear any hope we had left of Poyet signing is now gone. Diego respected Riga for his time at AC Milan, different training methods that involved keeping the ball on the ground and playing the younger players(From Poyet himself).
We shall see.....way too early to judge I feel. I would've liked Riga to stay based on the time he had here. The positives for me are
- we're getting this sorted early. An appointment by the end of the week gives the guy plenty of time to build for next season - as people have pointed out, he's outside RD's network, so there must be something in him to convince RD giving him the job and probably paying compensation - as a general statement, continental football is better technically than it is in England. This guy may be a continuation of the type of football Riga was trying to introduce - he's played over in England for the scum. He's not likely to be completely caught cold by the physicality and demanding nature of the league
If you wanted to touch upon negatives, you can point to the obvious, 'who the bloody hell is he', yet I'd never heard of Riga prior to him coming to Charlton. I appreciate a general feeling of uncertainty. As a club we are used to stability and people often refer back to 'their Charlton'. However, I will not be making any judgement about his suitability until I have seen the first few months of next season.
Hopefully Peeters doesn't like his sides to play a style of football similar to how he played the game, because if he does, then we've just signed the Belgian Sam Allardyce.
The good news is I'm not overly impressed and am usually wrong.
Who'd have thought Lennie Lawrence (no track record), would have been a legend ?
Who'd have thought Alan Curbishley (no track record), would have been a legend ?
I thought Dowie might have been ok.
I was ecstatic when we appointed Pardew.
Riga ? I'd never heard of him & wasn't optimistic.
So let's wait & see. He's not even been appointed yet.
But according to AFKA's post above - it's not that he's got "no track record" but that he's got a poor track record....
According to the Belgian people Iv spoke to he's done well apart from 11 games at gent.
I’m just going on what AFKA posted, but what you say sounds a bit like the opposite of ‘what have the Roman’s ever done for us’ – apart from finishing 3rd from bottom at his current club, losing all their last 4 games and winning just 1 in their last 9, a mediocre couple of seasons at Cercle Brugge, and not winning a single game in his 11 in charge at Gent (after which under a new manager Gent stayed up with 12 wins, 3 draws and 3 defeats in their last 18 games) – “he's done well”?
Wonder if he'll be parachuted in like Jose, without the need for a press conference. Seems we think press conferences are a bit old hat considering we discarded the pre match presser as well
The good news is I'm not overly impressed and am usually wrong.
Who'd have thought Lennie Lawrence (no track record), would have been a legend ?
Who'd have thought Alan Curbishley (no track record), would have been a legend ?
I thought Dowie might have been ok.
I was ecstatic when we appointed Pardew.
Riga ? I'd never heard of him & wasn't optimistic.
So let's wait & see. He's not even been appointed yet.
But according to AFKA's post above - it's not that he's got "no track record" but that he's got a poor track record....
According to the Belgian people Iv spoke to he's done well apart from 11 games at gent.
I’m just going on what AFKA posted, but what you say sounds a bit like the opposite of ‘what have the Roman’s ever done for us’ – apart from finishing 3rd from bottom at his current club, losing all their last 4 games and winning just 1 in their last 9, a mediocre couple of seasons at Cercle Brugge, and not winning a single game in his 11 in charge at Gent (after which under a new manager Gent stayed up with 12 wins, 3 draws and 3 defeats in their last 18 games) – “he's done well”?
I havnt got time to go back through the pages but I'm not sure them stats tally up with what the Belgian fan wrote on here earlier , anyway apart from stats Iv only heard good things I wanted Riga but I'm gonna back this guy because he's got a good reputation even if the stats ain't the best. That's even if he's appointed lol
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100% this.
Unclear how many new mediocre network players will end up at the club and then this time the head coach (employed as a yes man / puppet) be expected to be forced to play them. Will the Head coach have any remit to resist ?
Zilch reassurance or communication from the club naturally. All as clear as mud then.
Every time I waiver in my decision not to renew my season ticket for the first time since 1985, something comes up to back up my decision.
The reason (parachute payments apart) both clubs perform badly relative to the rest of the division in turnover is other commercial income - Millwall £1.7m and Charlton £2.2m, respectively 24th and 22nd. The reasons for that are not for this thread but are not in my view a coincidence.
Chris Powell and Charlton was a love match, leading to a marriage that went sour.
Jose Riga and Charlton was a mad, passionate, no-strings, fling.
Bob Peeters and Charlton might just be the real thing. Let's at least wait and see how things unfold.
@GlennVeirman: @CAFCofficial but I really think he is a well talented manager and it was really bad luck. I think hell be great at charlton
@BeNeFoot: @TheLikael He's a 'nice guy'. Good season with Cercle Brugge a while ago but hasn't really had much luck for a couple of seasons now.
@BeNeFoot: @TheLikael Despite Cercle's downturn and an awful spell at Gent, he kept Waasland-Beveren up and remains well regarded.
@BeNeFoot: @TheLikael Riga is as much a coach who develops young players as a first-team manager hence his move.
@BeNeFoot: @TheLikael KAA Gent appointed him as he'd worked with the youth before but was too soon after his sacking from Cercle.
@BeNeFoot: Bob Peeters led Waasland-Beveren out of the relegation zone (PO3) and to safety (14th/16), securing wins at Genk and Club Brugge. #cafc
@BelgoFoot: Riga doesn.t want to stay at Charlton, being incorporated into AC Milan's staff. (If right, HLN on the ball as usual). I find Riga-Milan odd
- we're getting this sorted early. An appointment by the end of the week gives the guy plenty of time to build for next season
- as people have pointed out, he's outside RD's network, so there must be something in him to convince RD giving him the job and probably paying compensation
- as a general statement, continental football is better technically than it is in England. This guy may be a continuation of the type of football Riga was trying to introduce
- he's played over in England for the scum. He's not likely to be completely caught cold by the physicality and demanding nature of the league
If you wanted to touch upon negatives, you can point to the obvious, 'who the bloody hell is he', yet I'd never heard of Riga prior to him coming to Charlton. I appreciate a general feeling of uncertainty. As a club we are used to stability and people often refer back to 'their Charlton'. However, I will not be making any judgement about his suitability until I have seen the first few months of next season.
However, my biggest worry is that what does this appointment say to the likes of Poyet / Morrison etc.
I fear any hope we had left of Poyet signing is now gone. Diego respected Riga for his time at AC Milan, different training methods that involved keeping the ball on the ground and playing the younger players(From Poyet himself).
Now he's left I'm still unsure whether he was a success. Successful up to a point, I'd say.
I still love Powelly though and always will.
Anyway, this isn't about Powell.
what has rationality got to do with football support?
next time, ill wait and see to see if I am allowed a knee-jerk reaction. Then ill move on.
Hopefully Peeters doesn't like his sides to play a style of football similar to how he played the game, because if he does, then we've just signed the Belgian Sam Allardyce.
Of course you are right, give anyone a chance once they are appointed because what else can you do but support?
Seems we think press conferences are a bit old hat considering we discarded the pre match presser as well
BP should like the theme tune ' 'when the red red robins come bob bob bob bobbing along ....'.
I think that Roland may have taken that a bit too literally ....
That's even if he's appointed lol