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(Belgian) Bob Peeters *CONFIRMED New Head Coach (pg 37)*
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I don't find it surprising at all. There is an intense media focus on football and an army of people involved in any deal. This isn't the electronics business and none of the people reporting it will be remotely interested in whether RD is furious or not.Mundell Fleming said:Not easy to understand how this stuff gets into the media before its done and dusted, everyone impacted has been informed (which might include Riga) and an announcement has been prepared. Guess its the world we're in today, but I'd be absolutely furious if I were Duchatelet.
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Jordan Cousins is shit thoViewfinder said:I have no interest in owners of football clubs who are "weird", "left-field", "mavericks" - or, conceitedly, "their own man". I also don't want a manager who is a "good laugh with the players" - apparently one of Bob Peeters' attributes. Quite rightly, Andy Hughes was the first to be shown the door this summer: schoolboy japes in the dressing-room and loud shouting from the touchline do not win matches in the Championship.
Last August our first game of the season was against Bournemouth, upstarts promoted from the lower division: it was our duty to stamp some authority. We lost that game, and the next, and never recovered. It was only a few months ago that we routinely couldn't hit the target in the whole 90 minutes, and only four weeks ago that poor Barnsley - later relegated - beat us at home.
Riga narrowly saved us from Crawley and Port Vale. For us to challenge for the play-offs, a manager experienced in our top two divisions is vital. Even more importantly, we need to buy midfield players who can seize possession, wingers who can cross, and strikers who can score.1 -
OK. Fair enough. Easy to say though when someone is telling you to go and support Chelsea or Man Utd.lancashire lad said:
lighten up vffvff said:
Byl needs to think twice and be more fecking careful when on another sites and suggesting to support Chelsea or Man utd, particularly after the Greg Dyke bullsh!t. Totally fecking justified. I don't find it lighthearted.aitchyaddick said:None of us knew anything about Peeters. Byl came on told us lots about him, but he was slagged off because he used to play for Millwall. Perhaps byl didn't understand our humour. Admittedly he made a poor joke about supporting Chelsea or Manu, but that was no reason to tear into him.
When Yann897 has a go and criticises what I am saying, then I may disagree but Yann, is a passionate about the club and thats ok. Yann has never stooped to that level. Any football supporter should know better.
byl is not one of us and kindly came on our forum and gave us some useful information, for which I thank him. Maybe his sense of humour is different to yours and he is writting in a foreign language to his, so give him the benefit of doubt and let him be.
I suggest we all take a step back and wait for some proper news rather than over react to the word of Cawley.4 -
I might be late to the party here, but if this guy did wonders keeping a club up that was seemingly all set for relegation, maybe RD is preparing for that to happen again? Although Riga had achieved that already... The magical mystery tour continues0
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PDC? WTF?0
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My guess is that a deal is done and dusted to be announced perhaps this week. Riga was informed out of courtesy and has had a chance to publicise his interest in Championship football - given the turnover of coaches and managers in the Championship and his success in SE7 he may well be at a club before the start of the season?Mundell Fleming said:Not easy to understand how this stuff gets into the media before its done and dusted, everyone impacted has been informed (which might include Riga) and an announcement has been prepared. Guess its the world we're in today, but I'd be absolutely furious if I were Duchatelet.
The lack of announcements from the club on this and the various player departures amazes me. Managing the comms seems a good way to boost ticket sales.
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Bob Peters was great, shame RD let him go so soon.
Good luck BP. You served us well...
Ahhhh, sorry you are prob' employed as a bloke who aint gonna say "no" and are therefore gonna be around a long time. Unlike our last two managers.
Prove me wrong, show some balls., prove RD wrong. Have a V short career here for doing so.0 -
Don't understand why Riga hasn't got the job. Hope Roland has a master plan but I don't see it currently.0
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I don't feel slagged off lol - don't worry. the chelsea thing was just an ironic post as a reaction to "6 more years without succes" thing somewhere ...vff said:
OK. Fair enough. Easy to say though when someone is telling you to go and support Chelsea or Man Utd.lancashire lad said:
lighten up vffvff said:
Byl needs to think twice and be more fecking careful when on another sites and suggesting to support Chelsea or Man utd, particularly after the Greg Dyke bullsh!t. Totally fecking justified. I don't find it lighthearted.aitchyaddick said:None of us knew anything about Peeters. Byl came on told us lots about him, but he was slagged off because he used to play for Millwall. Perhaps byl didn't understand our humour. Admittedly he made a poor joke about supporting Chelsea or Manu, but that was no reason to tear into him.
When Yann897 has a go and criticises what I am saying, then I may disagree but Yann, is a passionate about the club and thats ok. Yann has never stooped to that level. Any football supporter should know better.
byl is not one of us and kindly came on our forum and gave us some useful information, for which I thank him. Maybe his sense of humour is different to yours and he is writting in a foreign language to his, so give him the benefit of doubt and let him be.
I suggest we all take a step back and wait for some proper news rather than over react to the word of Cawley.
i respect every football fan who supports his teams especially when their club is in a rough time.
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You must love us then, we only seem to do rough times these days.byl said:
I don't feel slagged off lol - don't worry. the chelsea thing was just an ironic post as a reaction to "6 more years without succes" thing somewhere ...vff said:
OK. Fair enough. Easy to say though when someone is telling you to go and support Chelsea or Man Utd.lancashire lad said:
lighten up vffvff said:
Byl needs to think twice and be more fecking careful when on another sites and suggesting to support Chelsea or Man utd, particularly after the Greg Dyke bullsh!t. Totally fecking justified. I don't find it lighthearted.aitchyaddick said:None of us knew anything about Peeters. Byl came on told us lots about him, but he was slagged off because he used to play for Millwall. Perhaps byl didn't understand our humour. Admittedly he made a poor joke about supporting Chelsea or Manu, but that was no reason to tear into him.
When Yann897 has a go and criticises what I am saying, then I may disagree but Yann, is a passionate about the club and thats ok. Yann has never stooped to that level. Any football supporter should know better.
byl is not one of us and kindly came on our forum and gave us some useful information, for which I thank him. Maybe his sense of humour is different to yours and he is writting in a foreign language to his, so give him the benefit of doubt and let him be.
I suggest we all take a step back and wait for some proper news rather than over react to the word of Cawley.
i respect every football who supports his teams especially when their club is in a rough time.0 -
You are wrong there - having a good sense of humor has nothing to do with requiring work ethics from players on and off the pitch and on the training grounds. His "sense of humour" is more when asked question by journalists and stuff. If you ask him stupid questions you get stupid answers which are often quite hilarious . The players will have to work their asses off and do what is asked from them by the coach or they will be benched-not selected.Viewfinder said:I also don't want a manager who is a "good laugh with the players" - apparently one of Bob Peeters' attributes.
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well patrick van houdt is from kv mechelen - i'm a lierse fan. Those two clubs don't really go together wellShootersHillGuru said:I did ask byl for his thoughts on Patrick Van Houdt but I doubt we will hear now. I wonder why ?
. Would be like asking a charlton fan to give an opinion on the assistant coach of Millwall.
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Cheers for the insight byl, i have found it an interesting read today, considering like most football fans in this country(and on this forum) i know next to nothing about football in your country.
It helps for those of us trying to have a serious less spur of the moment reaction to the ongoing tenure of RD as our owner.0 -
Fingers crossed. Could do with some positive news tonight.CharltonByBlood said:
Thet to me sounds like he's staying ?Yann897 said:@diegopoyet7: Thanks to Jose Riga for everything he did for the club and helped us massively to stay in the league. Sad to see him go
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RD must have personally chosen a shortlist or had his advisors do it, which the knowledge is close to home in Belgium if Bob Peeters is highly rated and they think he is the man for the job then I see no problem. Peeters sounds similar to Riga as in a new school of Belgian Coaches/Managers who have a new philosophy on developing youth in their country technially/tactically/mentally, Look how far the Belgian national team has progressed since those changes come into place I rather have one of these managers then the likes of PDC who is very rash and raw.
My only worry is what sort of squad we will have and how they adapt to England, Charlton and The Championship. Riga has admitted that the Championship is far bigger more competitive league then the Belgian Pro League and the quality surprised him a bit, I just hope RD and those making those big decisions understand that too, fringe players from his network won't be good enough. We will need some experienced talent to go with our promising youngsters.6 -
I am completely torn by this.
My initial reaction was huge disappointment, and some anger towards Duchatalet. On the face of it, Riga appears to have been treated in a shabby and disrespectful way. My gut feeling is that Riga would have taken us to the play-offs next season, given some backing (which may or may not have been forthcoming). Was Riga let go because of his reluctance to play the dross from the network? Possibly.
But the other half of me thinks that Duchatalet is no fool, and for him to have let Riga go, he must be absolutely confident that his chosen candidate will do even better. He must have a definite path in mind for Charlton, one which is not completely obvious to us yet. One thing is clear - he wants to develop young talent and add value to the club that way. But he must also surely know that young talent playing at a higher level has much greater value, as we've seen recently in the case of Luke Shaw. Likewise, promising youngsters are much more likely to want to join the academy of a successful or improving club rather than one which is on the wane. So it makes sense for him, in terms of what we believe to be his long-term ambitions for Charlton, for the club to attain a decent level in the Championship, or better still achieve promotion to the Premiership, sooner rather than later. It doesn't make sense for us to have a great academy nurturing young talent, only for that talent to leave before signing a professional contract because the parent club is such a shambles.
We don't know the full story about Riga's departure yet, and perhaps we never will. I hate the way that this is playing out, but ultimately I think we have to be confident that our hopes and ambitions for Charlton are also Duchatalet's. We might always be a selling club, but hopefully one that plays good football at a respectable level, and produces future England (and other) internationals.6 -
Hope RD see's sense and keeps Riga the players like him the fans warmed to him and we started playing some really good football towards the end of the season. It looked like it was all clicking into place for next season with the manager and players with just contracts to sort out.
Riga has said
"I found a very good environment, I think we get good results so quickly, the way we play too and I think that everybody was happy. I mean the fans, the players, the staff, so I was expecting to stay."
Riga has stated he wanted the job but the fact he did not pick the network players seems to of counted against him. Looks like RD wants a Yes Man and will appoint one no matter how unpopular it is.
If the clown thuram-ulien is in goal first game of the season then it could end up like watching a car crash in slow motion next season. Feels like one step forward two steps back.0 -
These sorts of comments don't help. You're guessing. Do you really think RD replaced Powell for saying no, only to bring in someone else who says no.sholland said:
Riga has stated he wanted the job but the fact he did not pick the network players seems to of counted against him. Looks like RD wants a Yes Man and will appoint one no matter how unpopular it is.5 - Sponsored links:
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It's a very strange decision and it leaves more questions than answers
Riga himself has said he wanted the job he wanted to stay but RD has made no offer to him yet for any role
That's the only facts out in the open
Peeters hasn't been appointed yet either so it's a sit back and watch moment
What else can we do worrying solves nothing
But it makes for hits on here smudge up the sponsorship and roll in the money 8)1 -
Usual 'in the know' merchants on here quiet after saying they'd "been told" Riga took over with plan to become youth manager.2
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I'm not referring to who is reporting it. Whoever leaks this kind of information must be very well aware that they are being mischievous at best and vindictive at worst. There won't be an army of people involved in a discussion between Duchatelet and two or three Managers he's interviewing.Airman Brown said:
I don't find it surprising at all. There is an intense media focus on football and an army of people involved in any deal. This isn't the electronics business and none of the people reporting it will be remotely interested in whether RD is furious or not.Mundell Fleming said:Not easy to understand how this stuff gets into the media before its done and dusted, everyone impacted has been informed (which might include Riga) and an announcement has been prepared. Guess its the world we're in today, but I'd be absolutely furious if I were Duchatelet.
By contrast, in the commercial environment it appears possible to keep things under wraps until its appropriate to make the information public. That's not because the information isn't of interest, it's because the immediate reaction of the many people involved isn't to think "I've got an interesting titbit, this will make somebody look bad or embarrass them, I'll, ring a friendly Journo". I guess it says something about the integrity of the people involved.
To me it does matter whether Duchatelet is furious of Peeters or Riga embarrassed for example, but then again I've never leaked information.0 -
I get the impression, since the takeover, that there are far less genuine 'in the know' people than there used to be.Chunes said:Usual 'in the know' merchants on here quiet after saying they'd "been told" Riga took over with plan to become youth manager.
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If RD is furious (and we don't know that he is or even cares) then it makes his failure to manage communications even more bizarre.Mundell Fleming said:
I'm not referring to who is reporting it. Whoever leaks this kind of information must be very well aware that they are being mischievous at best and vindictive at worst. There won't be an army of people involved in a discussion between Duchatelet and two or three Managers he's interviewing.Airman Brown said:
I don't find it surprising at all. There is an intense media focus on football and an army of people involved in any deal. This isn't the electronics business and none of the people reporting it will be remotely interested in whether RD is furious or not.Mundell Fleming said:Not easy to understand how this stuff gets into the media before its done and dusted, everyone impacted has been informed (which might include Riga) and an announcement has been prepared. Guess its the world we're in today, but I'd be absolutely furious if I were Duchatelet.
By contrast, in the commercial environment it appears possible to keep things under wraps until its appropriate to make the information public. That's not because the information isn't of interest, it's because the immediate reaction of the many people involved isn't to think "I've got an interesting titbit, this will make somebody look bad or embarrass them, I'll, ring a friendly Journo". I guess it says something about the integrity of the people involved.
To me it does matter whether Duchatelet is furious of Peeters or Riga embarrassed for example, but then again I've never leaked information.
He has been in football long enough now to have realised that, as Airman says, it isn't electronics, there are numous parties involved (agents, family, other clubs' staff) not just the coach himself so it is not surprising that the media run the stories.
People are interested in what is happening at Charlton as the traffic on this site proves. Of course the SLP and the rest of the media will run stories that will get them hits or sell papers, it's their primary function.
If RD doesn't like it then rather than trying to plug the leaks he should take a pro-active stance and run the stories himself. Didn't he just appoint a new media director?
We had the news on Paul Hart. Where is the story on Dyer leaving or Matthew, Bloom and Roberts staying.
Where is the news on the players coming and going already annouced by those players on twitter?
Where is the "Thanks Jose" story?
It's up to RD. He might not care but the speed in which he recorded a second video interview after the first was misinterpreted as suggesting that we were Standard's feeder club, tells me that he does.
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Surly it's up to the people below rd to release those stories ?Henry Irving said:
If RD is furious (and we don't know that he is or even cares) then it makes his failure to manage communications even more bizarre.Mundell Fleming said:
I'm not referring to who is reporting it. Whoever leaks this kind of information must be very well aware that they are being mischievous at best and vindictive at worst. There won't be an army of people involved in a discussion between Duchatelet and two or three Managers he's interviewing.Airman Brown said:
I don't find it surprising at all. There is an intense media focus on football and an army of people involved in any deal. This isn't the electronics business and none of the people reporting it will be remotely interested in whether RD is furious or not.Mundell Fleming said:Not easy to understand how this stuff gets into the media before its done and dusted, everyone impacted has been informed (which might include Riga) and an announcement has been prepared. Guess its the world we're in today, but I'd be absolutely furious if I were Duchatelet.
By contrast, in the commercial environment it appears possible to keep things under wraps until its appropriate to make the information public. That's not because the information isn't of interest, it's because the immediate reaction of the many people involved isn't to think "I've got an interesting titbit, this will make somebody look bad or embarrass them, I'll, ring a friendly Journo". I guess it says something about the integrity of the people involved.
To me it does matter whether Duchatelet is furious of Peeters or Riga embarrassed for example, but then again I've never leaked information.
He has been in football long enough now to have realised that, as Airman says, it isn't electronics, there are numous parties involved (agents, family, other clubs' staff) not just the coach himself so it is not surprising that the media run the stories.
People are interested in what is happening at Charlton as the traffic on this site proves. Of course the SLP and the rest of the media will run stories that will get them hits or sell papers, it's their primary function.
If RD doesn't like it then rather than trying to plug the leaks he should take a pro-active stance and run the stories himself. Didn't he just appoint a new media director?
We had the news on Paul Hart. Where is the story on Dyer leaving or Matthew, Bloom and Roberts staying.
Where is the news on the players coming and going already annouced by those players on twitter?
Where is the "Thanks Jose" story?
It's up to RD. He might not care but the speed in which he recorded a second video interview after the first was misinterpreted as suggesting that we were Standard's feeder club, tells me that he does.
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Once they are told to by their line managersYann897 said:
Surly it's up to the people below rd to release those stories ?Henry Irving said:
If RD is furious (and we don't know that he is or even cares) then it makes his failure to manage communications even more bizarre.Mundell Fleming said:
I'm not referring to who is reporting it. Whoever leaks this kind of information must be very well aware that they are being mischievous at best and vindictive at worst. There won't be an army of people involved in a discussion between Duchatelet and two or three Managers he's interviewing.Airman Brown said:
I don't find it surprising at all. There is an intense media focus on football and an army of people involved in any deal. This isn't the electronics business and none of the people reporting it will be remotely interested in whether RD is furious or not.Mundell Fleming said:Not easy to understand how this stuff gets into the media before its done and dusted, everyone impacted has been informed (which might include Riga) and an announcement has been prepared. Guess its the world we're in today, but I'd be absolutely furious if I were Duchatelet.
By contrast, in the commercial environment it appears possible to keep things under wraps until its appropriate to make the information public. That's not because the information isn't of interest, it's because the immediate reaction of the many people involved isn't to think "I've got an interesting titbit, this will make somebody look bad or embarrass them, I'll, ring a friendly Journo". I guess it says something about the integrity of the people involved.
To me it does matter whether Duchatelet is furious of Peeters or Riga embarrassed for example, but then again I've never leaked information.
He has been in football long enough now to have realised that, as Airman says, it isn't electronics, there are numous parties involved (agents, family, other clubs' staff) not just the coach himself so it is not surprising that the media run the stories.
People are interested in what is happening at Charlton as the traffic on this site proves. Of course the SLP and the rest of the media will run stories that will get them hits or sell papers, it's their primary function.
If RD doesn't like it then rather than trying to plug the leaks he should take a pro-active stance and run the stories himself. Didn't he just appoint a new media director?
We had the news on Paul Hart. Where is the story on Dyer leaving or Matthew, Bloom and Roberts staying.
Where is the news on the players coming and going already annouced by those players on twitter?
Where is the "Thanks Jose" story?
It's up to RD. He might not care but the speed in which he recorded a second video interview after the first was misinterpreted as suggesting that we were Standard's feeder club, tells me that he does.1 -
Once they are told to by their line managersYann897 said:
Surly it's up to the people below rd to release those stories ?Henry Irving said:
If RD is furious (and we don't know that he is or even cares) then it makes his failure to manage communications even more bizarre.Mundell Fleming said:
I'm not referring to who is reporting it. Whoever leaks this kind of information must be very well aware that they are being mischievous at best and vindictive at worst. There won't be an army of people involved in a discussion between Duchatelet and two or three Managers he's interviewing.Airman Brown said:
I don't find it surprising at all. There is an intense media focus on football and an army of people involved in any deal. This isn't the electronics business and none of the people reporting it will be remotely interested in whether RD is furious or not.Mundell Fleming said:Not easy to understand how this stuff gets into the media before its done and dusted, everyone impacted has been informed (which might include Riga) and an announcement has been prepared. Guess its the world we're in today, but I'd be absolutely furious if I were Duchatelet.
By contrast, in the commercial environment it appears possible to keep things under wraps until its appropriate to make the information public. That's not because the information isn't of interest, it's because the immediate reaction of the many people involved isn't to think "I've got an interesting titbit, this will make somebody look bad or embarrass them, I'll, ring a friendly Journo". I guess it says something about the integrity of the people involved.
To me it does matter whether Duchatelet is furious of Peeters or Riga embarrassed for example, but then again I've never leaked information.
He has been in football long enough now to have realised that, as Airman says, it isn't electronics, there are numous parties involved (agents, family, other clubs' staff) not just the coach himself so it is not surprising that the media run the stories.
People are interested in what is happening at Charlton as the traffic on this site proves. Of course the SLP and the rest of the media will run stories that will get them hits or sell papers, it's their primary function.
If RD doesn't like it then rather than trying to plug the leaks he should take a pro-active stance and run the stories himself. Didn't he just appoint a new media director?
We had the news on Paul Hart. Where is the story on Dyer leaving or Matthew, Bloom and Roberts staying.
Where is the news on the players coming and going already annouced by those players on twitter?
Where is the "Thanks Jose" story?
It's up to RD. He might not care but the speed in which he recorded a second video interview after the first was misinterpreted as suggesting that we were Standard's feeder club, tells me that he does.
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I'm sure he cares, but you can't announce something until it's done. It doesn't help get it done or the Club's credibility if work in progress is leaked. It's irresponsible. Just my opinion.0
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I'm not saying the comms team I'm just saying surly it ain't Roland who has to tell them to put it on the website , katrien or whoever.Henry Irving said:
Once they are told to by their line managersYann897 said:
Surly it's up to the people below rd to release those stories ?Henry Irving said:
If RD is furious (and we don't know that he is or even cares) then it makes his failure to manage communications even more bizarre.Mundell Fleming said:
I'm not referring to who is reporting it. Whoever leaks this kind of information must be very well aware that they are being mischievous at best and vindictive at worst. There won't be an army of people involved in a discussion between Duchatelet and two or three Managers he's interviewing.Airman Brown said:
I don't find it surprising at all. There is an intense media focus on football and an army of people involved in any deal. This isn't the electronics business and none of the people reporting it will be remotely interested in whether RD is furious or not.Mundell Fleming said:Not easy to understand how this stuff gets into the media before its done and dusted, everyone impacted has been informed (which might include Riga) and an announcement has been prepared. Guess its the world we're in today, but I'd be absolutely furious if I were Duchatelet.
By contrast, in the commercial environment it appears possible to keep things under wraps until its appropriate to make the information public. That's not because the information isn't of interest, it's because the immediate reaction of the many people involved isn't to think "I've got an interesting titbit, this will make somebody look bad or embarrass them, I'll, ring a friendly Journo". I guess it says something about the integrity of the people involved.
To me it does matter whether Duchatelet is furious of Peeters or Riga embarrassed for example, but then again I've never leaked information.
He has been in football long enough now to have realised that, as Airman says, it isn't electronics, there are numous parties involved (agents, family, other clubs' staff) not just the coach himself so it is not surprising that the media run the stories.
People are interested in what is happening at Charlton as the traffic on this site proves. Of course the SLP and the rest of the media will run stories that will get them hits or sell papers, it's their primary function.
If RD doesn't like it then rather than trying to plug the leaks he should take a pro-active stance and run the stories himself. Didn't he just appoint a new media director?
We had the news on Paul Hart. Where is the story on Dyer leaving or Matthew, Bloom and Roberts staying.
Where is the news on the players coming and going already annouced by those players on twitter?
Where is the "Thanks Jose" story?
It's up to RD. He might not care but the speed in which he recorded a second video interview after the first was misinterpreted as suggesting that we were Standard's feeder club, tells me that he does.
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