One or two have mentioned the main issue. Its not the manager. If the players recruited in are not of sufficient standard for this level of football, it will be bottom three irrespective of who the manager is..
Where are these players coming from? The other network clubs are below Championship level and will not provide players of sufficient quality. ( If there is a player good enough, It is assumed the no.1 club in the network has first dibs anyway). So are they coming from English clubs? On the recommendation of who? Phil Chapple? It won't be the new manager, unless he has been nipping across the channel on scouting missions. This other group of lap-top scouts won't have a scooby on how a player fits in or whether they have the character to play at Rotherham or Cardiff when the crowd is on top. Stats don't tell you that.
Over to RD & RM then, they'd better make sure they or their scouts get the required level of player into the squad, unlike the previous window, otherwise it will be a long hard winter. The pressure is on them.
I think RD has a real problem. He's bought a club for £14mill that is below the level of SL, but well above all of the other clubs. Surplus squad players at SL are not good enough to player in the English second level, because he failed to recognise the relative strength of the English pyramid. Level 2 football is not the same all over Europe. So, how does he now make this project work? It looks like he is determined to try out his theory on player movement, so we'll find out in the first half of the season. Peeters is charged with developing a team good enough to play at Championship level. I hope he gets the squad to at least have a sporting chance of that. Otherwise he will become the fall guy very quickly.
Looking forward to seeing who lines up in the first game of the season, the system and style of play, and whether the Belgian contingent have done the job properly over the summer.
Also, I hear we have the Belgian Sam Allardyce. No point Poyet hanging around then as we will be by-passing midfield and he won't see the ball. LoL.
This long ball thing. Not what I have heard. Is a coach steeped in European style football likely to play Allardycesque football ? I think it unlikely. Where is byl when you need him.
I'm sure I've read both he plays long ball and passing football on here.
There was also talk of him playing 4-3-3 with a big targetman. Is that being mixed up with playing long ball? A big targetman could be a player like Yann that is just as good on the floor. It doesn't necessarily mean hoofing it up to a big striker to flick on. Even teams that pass the ball well on the floor have physical strikers that can hold up and compete for the ball.
Although it's not always reliable it's interesting to see how unknown players and managers are rated in FM. I've had look and his preferred formation is said to be 4-3-3 and he plays direct (but not out and out long), attacking high tempo football. His other ratings also suggest he's very good with young players (coaching and likes to sign them), a good motivator and man manager and isn't afraid to bring on subs.
He's rated as the 7th best manager in the league (out of 16) despite his club being the smallest in the division. It also shows he worked under a Managing Director/Director of Football.
Whether he's quite that good or it's exaggerated we'll see but it does at least suggest he's got a very good reputation in Belgium. I'd also say what we might interpret as direct football might be different abroad. Playing that way may also have been down to the type of players he's had available to him.
Everything i have heard & read about his style of football involved slow building passing football with a focus on wingers and a big target man up top, that is not hoofball, i must have missed about his teams also playing hoofball or is it people assuming his teams would play like that because he was a big lump of a striker when he played the game?
well, no belgian pro league team plays "hoofball" and no one the younger generation of coaches in belgium, one of which will now be charltons coach, believes in hoofball either.
If you have some time and if you wanna know how coaching and training since really young age is set up in belgium, this article explains a bit of how coaching and training of young players in belgium is done since 2004.
look under section 2. A “Utopian” System of Soccer
We had to wait a bit after that plan was put in action but 5-6 years later, since 2010 onwards, we started to produce more "talented" players than we ever did before. So belgian coaches at all levels are formed according to the GAG. (read the article if you want to know what GAG is). Since Bob Peeters got his diploma as a coach after 2006, he will have been "indoctrinated" with the GAG-thing, which means "NO HOOFBALL".
I can't be 100% sure but i doubt very much thta you will see hoofball next season.
well, no belgian pro league team plays "hoofball" and no one the younger generation of coaches in belgium, one of which will now be charltons coach, believes in hoofball either.
If you have some time and if you wanna know how coaching and training since really young age is set up in belgium, this article explains a bit of how coaching and training of young players in belgium is done since 2004.
look under section 2. A “Utopian” System of Soccer
We had to wait a bit after that plan was put in action but 5-6 years later, since 2010 onwards, we started to produce more "talented" players than we ever did before. So belgian coaches at all levels are formed according to the GAG. (read the article if you want to know what GAG is). Since Bob Peeters got his diploma as a coach after 2006, he will have been "indoctrinated" with the GAG-thing, which means "NO HOOFBALL".
I can't be 100% sure but i doubt very much thta you will see hoofball next season.
Whilst I acknowledge we are dreadfully short on playing staff - I must say I'm getting rather excited at the possibility of watching a bit of penetrative passing football.
well, no belgian pro league team plays "hoofball" and no one the younger generation of coaches in belgium, one of which will now be charltons coach, believes in hoofball either.
If you have some time and if you wanna know how coaching and training since really young age is set up in belgium, this article explains a bit of how coaching and training of young players in belgium is done since 2004.
look under section 2. A “Utopian” System of Soccer
We had to wait a bit after that plan was put in action but 5-6 years later, since 2010 onwards, we started to produce more "talented" players than we ever did before. So belgian coaches at all levels are formed according to the GAG. (read the article if you want to know what GAG is). Since Bob Peeters got his diploma as a coach after 2006, he will have been "indoctrinated" with the GAG-thing, which means "NO HOOFBALL".
I can't be 100% sure but i doubt very much thta you will see hoofball next season.
Whilst I acknowledge we are dreadfully short on playing staff - I must say I'm getting rather excited at the possibility of watching a bit of penetrative passing football.
well, no belgian pro league team plays "hoofball" and no one the younger generation of coaches in belgium, one of which will now be charltons coach, believes in hoofball either.
If you have some time and if you wanna know how coaching and training since really young age is set up in belgium, this article explains a bit of how coaching and training of young players in belgium is done since 2004.
look under section 2. A “Utopian” System of Soccer
We had to wait a bit after that plan was put in action but 5-6 years later, since 2010 onwards, we started to produce more "talented" players than we ever did before. So belgian coaches at all levels are formed according to the GAG. (read the article if you want to know what GAG is). Since Bob Peeters got his diploma as a coach after 2006, he will have been "indoctrinated" with the GAG-thing, which means "NO HOOFBALL".
I can't be 100% sure but i doubt very much thta you will see hoofball next season.
Whilst I acknowledge we are dreadfully short on playing staff - I must say I'm getting rather excited at the possibility of watching a bit of penetrative passing football.
This !
No guarantees of course but I think that we might see some more pleasing on the eye football from a Charlton team than we've seen for many many a year. Continental European football is a different beast to what we see week in week out in the Championship and frankly I'm looking forward to watching some thoughtful on the floor attacking football and players comfortable doing it.
well, no belgian pro league team plays "hoofball" and no one the younger generation of coaches in belgium, one of which will now be charltons coach, believes in hoofball either.
If you have some time and if you wanna know how coaching and training since really young age is set up in belgium, this article explains a bit of how coaching and training of young players in belgium is done since 2004.
look under section 2. A “Utopian” System of Soccer
We had to wait a bit after that plan was put in action but 5-6 years later, since 2010 onwards, we started to produce more "talented" players than we ever did before. So belgian coaches at all levels are formed according to the GAG. (read the article if you want to know what GAG is). Since Bob Peeters got his diploma as a coach after 2006, he will have been "indoctrinated" with the GAG-thing, which means "NO HOOFBALL".
I can't be 100% sure but i doubt very much thta you will see hoofball next season.
Whilst I acknowledge we are dreadfully short on playing staff - I must say I'm getting rather excited at the possibility of watching a bit of penetrative passing football.
This !
No guarantees of course but I think that we might see some more pleasing on the eye football from a Charlton team than we've seen for many many a year. Continental European football is a different beast to what we see week in week out in the Championship and frankly I'm looking forward to watching some thoughtful on the floor attacking football and players comfortable doing it.
well, no belgian pro league team plays "hoofball" and no one the younger generation of coaches in belgium, one of which will now be charltons coach, believes in hoofball either.
If you have some time and if you wanna know how coaching and training since really young age is set up in belgium, this article explains a bit of how coaching and training of young players in belgium is done since 2004.
look under section 2. A “Utopian” System of Soccer
We had to wait a bit after that plan was put in action but 5-6 years later, since 2010 onwards, we started to produce more "talented" players than we ever did before. So belgian coaches at all levels are formed according to the GAG. (read the article if you want to know what GAG is). Since Bob Peeters got his diploma as a coach after 2006, he will have been "indoctrinated" with the GAG-thing, which means "NO HOOFBALL".
I can't be 100% sure but i doubt very much thta you will see hoofball next season.
@byl thank you for sharing that piece. Very insightful and I think that a few of the major nations (France, Germany) did something similar after they also saw their national teams losing their way.
Reading on from just the 2nd section, the quote from Jean-Francois De Sart - technical director at our good friends at Standard Liege - when asked about unearthing, cultivating and selling their best talent, this year being Michy Batshuayi, could just as equally be used by us - “We try to improve our budget, but, OK, it is also the way to make, to live a life … We know in which world we are in.”
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Where are these players coming from? The other network clubs are below Championship level and will not provide players of sufficient quality. ( If there is a player good enough, It is assumed the no.1 club in the network has first dibs anyway). So are they coming from English clubs? On the recommendation of who? Phil Chapple? It won't be the new manager, unless he has been nipping across the channel on scouting missions. This other group of lap-top scouts won't have a scooby on how a player fits in or whether they have the character to play at Rotherham or Cardiff when the crowd is on top. Stats don't tell you that.
Over to RD & RM then, they'd better make sure they or their scouts get the required level of player into the squad, unlike the previous window, otherwise it will be a long hard winter. The pressure is on them.
I think RD has a real problem. He's bought a club for £14mill that is below the level of SL, but well above all of the other clubs. Surplus squad players at SL are not good enough to player in the English second level, because he failed to recognise the relative strength of the English pyramid. Level 2 football is not the same all over Europe. So, how does he now make this project work? It looks like he is determined to try out his theory on player movement, so we'll find out in the first half of the season. Peeters is charged with developing a team good enough to play at Championship level. I hope he gets the squad to at least have a sporting chance of that. Otherwise he will become the fall guy very quickly.
Looking forward to seeing who lines up in the first game of the season, the system and style of play, and whether the Belgian contingent have done the job properly over the summer.
Also, I hear we have the Belgian Sam Allardyce. No point Poyet hanging around then as we will be by-passing midfield and he won't see the ball. LoL.
There was also talk of him playing 4-3-3 with a big targetman. Is that being mixed up with playing long ball? A big targetman could be a player like Yann that is just as good on the floor. It doesn't necessarily mean hoofing it up to a big striker to flick on. Even teams that pass the ball well on the floor have physical strikers that can hold up and compete for the ball.
Although it's not always reliable it's interesting to see how unknown players and managers are rated in FM. I've had look and his preferred formation is said to be 4-3-3 and he plays direct (but not out and out long), attacking high tempo football. His other ratings also suggest he's very good with young players (coaching and likes to sign them), a good motivator and man manager and isn't afraid to bring on subs.
He's rated as the 7th best manager in the league (out of 16) despite his club being the smallest in the division. It also shows he worked under a Managing Director/Director of Football.
Whether he's quite that good or it's exaggerated we'll see but it does at least suggest he's got a very good reputation in Belgium. I'd also say what we might interpret as direct football might be different abroad. Playing that way may also have been down to the type of players he's had available to him.
I can imagine RD saying to him "You like"
Dowie "Yes"
RD "huh huh you have the job huh"
If you have some time and if you wanna know how coaching and training since really young age is set up in belgium, this article explains a bit of how coaching and training of young players in belgium is done since 2004.
http://grantland.com/features/world-cup-2014-belgian-national-team-vincent-kompany-eden-hazard-marouane-fellaini/
look under section 2. A “Utopian” System of Soccer
We had to wait a bit after that plan was put in action but 5-6 years later, since 2010 onwards, we started to produce more "talented" players than we ever did before. So belgian coaches at all levels are formed according to the GAG. (read the article if you want to know what GAG is). Since Bob Peeters got his diploma as a coach after 2006, he will have been "indoctrinated" with the GAG-thing, which means "NO HOOFBALL".
I can't be 100% sure but i doubt very much thta you will see hoofball next season.
Whilst I acknowledge we are dreadfully short on playing staff - I must say I'm getting rather excited at the possibility of watching a bit of penetrative passing football.
have you seen him and RD in the same room ?
No guarantees of course but I think that we might see some more pleasing on the eye football from a Charlton team than we've seen for many many a year. Continental European football is a different beast to what we see week in week out in the Championship and frankly I'm looking forward to watching some thoughtful on the floor attacking football and players comfortable doing it.
It's just like watching Belgium,
It's just like watching Belgium,
Charlton Athletic
It's just like watching Belgium...
(repeated)
Reading on from just the 2nd section, the quote from Jean-Francois De Sart - technical director at our good friends at Standard Liege - when asked about unearthing, cultivating and selling their best talent, this year being Michy Batshuayi, could just as equally be used by us - “We try to improve our budget, but, OK, it is also the way to make, to live a life … We know in which world we are in.”
Is Bob is the tragic Frankenstein monster created by the evil Dr Roland???
Just photoshop a bolt through his neck and there is all the evidence
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