If true, this casts a very strange shadow on the CAFC message that he "had other prior commitments, or whatever rubbish reason they gave us for not hiring him"
Interesting and somewhat strange move for Riga. His CV suggests he is prone to wanderlust. Wonder if that was a factor in Duchatelet's decision not to appoint him permanently?
Did a superb job for us in the circumstances, but the positive here is that one of the sides we'll be looking to finish above has just appointed a Manager who we could have hired, but chose not to.
For Blackpool fans, the devil incarnate Karl Oyston has appointed an unknown Manager that one of their rivals has just rejected. For those that don't know the Oystons, Jimenez and Slater were model owners in comparison and Duchatelet a virtual saint.
Interesting and somewhat strange move for Riga. His CV suggests he is prone to wanderlust. Wonder if that was a factor in Duchatelet's decision not to appoint him permanently?
Did a superb job for us in the circumstances, but the positive here is that one of the sides we'll be looking to finish above has just appointed a Manager who we could have hired, but chose not to.
For Blackpool fans, the devil incarnate Karl Oyston has appointed an unknown Manager that one of their rivals has just rejected. For those that don't know the Oystons, Jimenez and Slater were model owners in comparison and Duchatelet a virtual saint.
Surprisingly not.
I took a look at a Blackpool forum earlier on and only really saw one post that was disappointed with the prospect that Riga could be appointed - and that was from someone who was very quickly called a WUM and told to support another football club. Why? His primary gripe was that Riga wasn't English.
Largely they seem a decent bunch and want Jose Riga to be confirmed as soon as possible: mainly citing his performance with us. They're under no illusion that they should've taken the third relegation spot and, like us, have around 6 players left now. So it's interesting to watch what they're saying at the moment; but there does seem to be some optimism with regards to Riga. I admit I feel rather jealous about the whole affair, if he goes to Blackpool I think they'll have a very good Manager. Nobody seemed to mention the prospect of him being a reject from another club in the same boat - despite the press comments clearly demonstrating that he (with a huge amount of respect, and only technically) was a reject, he wanted the job and he didn't get it.
However, with regards to the ownership - they do seem pretty pissed off with the whole situation. In fact, the one trait they do seem to want in a manager is someone who is going to demand a decent amount of finance and some freedom to work on his own. I'm pondering whether Riga is capable of that; coming from a background where he had a DoF making the recruitment decisions and an owner making the financial decisions - this would (in reality) be his first managerial position would it not? At least, managerial in the British sense - as opposed to the continental sense.
I'm watching this with a great deal of interest and some jealousy, but I hope it works out for them both. Decent club and a gentleman - they would be well matched in my mind. I'd certainly take Riga over Holloway and Appleton.
He takes that job, we have a much better chance of seeing him back in our dugout in a years time. If BP doesnt get his pony 1 year deal extended, fair chance. Lets see what effect a radical new take on our definition of how an owner/manager dynamic works.
Roland needs to stop thinking he can fill the DOF role by ruling via proxy. We need a DOF otherwise we will be happy to finish 16th
Or you bring in a traditional manger
But the coach/owner style always needs a football relationship manager sitting as DOF.
blackpool are goners this season...16M paid as Dividends to Oyston family after their romantic 1 season in the PL.
So had Tangies,P Nob ends, Pie eaters and Rovers fans at work all asking why have you done that then? Blackpool lot are delighted think they've done us over, at great pains to explain to them we do that to ourselves often. The Blackpool version of Riga's departure is that he thought CAFC should be top of the network not the Belgians therefore RD got rid. They're convinced the world is rosier with Riga.
Late last night I came across this interview with RD at the time of Riga's departure. I have to concede that it fully supports the version of events as reported at the start of the thread. RD come across as very surprised, and not having a Plan B in place.
It remains a puzzle that from inside Belgium we get those contrary reports (not just my buddy, don't forget. See @ChicagoAddick above) One reason might be the combination of RD's high profile and his inability to communicate effectively (as admitted even by his son Roderick). That is a meat and drink combo for journalists.
Anyway until I get authoritative contradiction, I'll go along with this version of what happened, and accept that RD had a good reason to wonder whether he could trust Riga for a longer term assignment.
Well at least this quote from Prague's article sheds some light on Roland's transfer policy... apparently experience can be a disadvantage?? (this must be lost in google-translation surely)
"Any transfer remains a risk. It can be reduced by taking an experienced player, but having already proven everything can also be a disadvantage."
Late last night I came across this interview with RD at the time of Riga's departure. I have to concede that it fully supports the version of events as reported at the start of the thread. RD come across as very surprised, and not having a Plan B in place.
It remains a puzzle that from inside Belgium we get those contrary reports (not just my buddy, don't forget. See @ChicagoAddick above) One reason might be the combination of RD's high profile and his inability to communicate effectively (as admitted even by his son Roderick). That is a meat and drink combo for journalists.
Anyway until I get authoritative contradiction, I'll go along with this version of what happened, and accept that RD had a good reason to wonder whether he could trust Riga for a longer term assignment.
for what it is worth and don't know if it has been posted here before
also a bit old but it is an interview with JR in belgian press, dating from mid May, where JR is explaining his reasons to join charlton in the first place. JR says he felt like "in debt" to RD for walking away from standard.
Late last night I came across this interview with RD at the time of Riga's departure. I have to concede that it fully supports the version of events as reported at the start of the thread. RD come across as very surprised, and not having a Plan B in place.
It remains a puzzle that from inside Belgium we get those contrary reports (not just my buddy, don't forget. See @ChicagoAddick above) One reason might be the combination of RD's high profile and his inability to communicate effectively (as admitted even by his son Roderick). That is a meat and drink combo for journalists.
Anyway until I get authoritative contradiction, I'll go along with this version of what happened, and accept that RD had a good reason to wonder whether he could trust Riga for a longer term assignment.
for what it is worth and don't know if it has been posted here before
also a bit old but it is an interview with JR in belgian press, dating from mid May, where JR is explaining his reasons to join charlton in the first place. JR says he felt like "in debt" to RD for walking away from standard.
So @byl, as far as you can remember, when Riga left, was the general feeling that he had walked out on Standard, and that just wasn't a very nice and proper thing to do? Was there some sympathy for RD that this had happened?
Late last night I came across this interview with RD at the time of Riga's departure. I have to concede that it fully supports the version of events as reported at the start of the thread. RD come across as very surprised, and not having a Plan B in place.
It remains a puzzle that from inside Belgium we get those contrary reports (not just my buddy, don't forget. See @ChicagoAddick above) One reason might be the combination of RD's high profile and his inability to communicate effectively (as admitted even by his son Roderick). That is a meat and drink combo for journalists.
Anyway until I get authoritative contradiction, I'll go along with this version of what happened, and accept that RD had a good reason to wonder whether he could trust Riga for a longer term assignment.
for what it is worth and don't know if it has been posted here before
also a bit old but it is an interview with JR in belgian press, dating from mid May, where JR is explaining his reasons to join charlton in the first place. JR says he felt like "in debt" to RD for walking away from standard.
So @byl, as far as you can remember, when Riga left, was the general feeling that he had walked out on Standard, and that just wasn't a very nice and proper thing to do? Was there some sympathy for RD that this had happened?
sympathy for Rd from other fans from other clubs - you mustbe kidding yes
it was just seen as a move by Riga to get to some place where he could earn a lot more.. maybe also doing more what he wanted to do. Standard appointed a new caoch afetr that and that was it.
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http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/sport/blackpool-fc/pool-agree-riga-deal-1-6650872
so it looks like we will be seeing Jose at the Valley next season after all but not quite in the dugout expected several weeks ago.
Find out next on charlton athletic, the next generation.
Good luck to him wherever he ends up. Certain of a great reception if/when he comes back to The Valley.
Did a superb job for us in the circumstances, but the positive here is that one of the sides we'll be looking to finish above has just appointed a Manager who we could have hired, but chose not to.
For Blackpool fans, the devil incarnate Karl Oyston has appointed an unknown Manager that one of their rivals has just rejected. For those that don't know the Oystons, Jimenez and Slater were model owners in comparison and Duchatelet a virtual saint.
I took a look at a Blackpool forum earlier on and only really saw one post that was disappointed with the prospect that Riga could be appointed - and that was from someone who was very quickly called a WUM and told to support another football club. Why? His primary gripe was that Riga wasn't English.
Largely they seem a decent bunch and want Jose Riga to be confirmed as soon as possible: mainly citing his performance with us. They're under no illusion that they should've taken the third relegation spot and, like us, have around 6 players left now. So it's interesting to watch what they're saying at the moment; but there does seem to be some optimism with regards to Riga. I admit I feel rather jealous about the whole affair, if he goes to Blackpool I think they'll have a very good Manager. Nobody seemed to mention the prospect of him being a reject from another club in the same boat - despite the press comments clearly demonstrating that he (with a huge amount of respect, and only technically) was a reject, he wanted the job and he didn't get it.
However, with regards to the ownership - they do seem pretty pissed off with the whole situation. In fact, the one trait they do seem to want in a manager is someone who is going to demand a decent amount of finance and some freedom to work on his own. I'm pondering whether Riga is capable of that; coming from a background where he had a DoF making the recruitment decisions and an owner making the financial decisions - this would (in reality) be his first managerial position would it not? At least, managerial in the British sense - as opposed to the continental sense.
I'm watching this with a great deal of interest and some jealousy, but I hope it works out for them both. Decent club and a gentleman - they would be well matched in my mind. I'd certainly take Riga over Holloway and Appleton.
Roland needs to stop thinking he can fill the DOF role by ruling via proxy. We need a DOF otherwise we will be happy to finish 16th
Or you bring in a traditional manger
But the coach/owner style always needs a football relationship manager sitting as DOF.
blackpool are goners this season...16M paid as Dividends to Oyston family after their romantic 1 season in the PL.
It remains a puzzle that from inside Belgium we get those contrary reports (not just my buddy, don't forget. See @ChicagoAddick above) One reason might be the combination of RD's high profile and his inability to communicate effectively (as admitted even by his son Roderick). That is a meat and drink combo for journalists.
Anyway until I get authoritative contradiction, I'll go along with this version of what happened, and accept that RD had a good reason to wonder whether he could trust Riga for a longer term assignment.
"Any transfer remains a risk. It can be reduced by taking an experienced player, but having already proven everything can also be a disadvantage."
http://www.sudinfo.be/1004933/article/2014-05-13/jose-riga-explique-pourquoi-il-a-rejoint-charlton-j-estimais-que-j-etais-redevab
also a bit old but it is an interview with JR in belgian press, dating from mid May, where JR is explaining his reasons to join charlton in the first place. JR says he felt like "in debt" to RD for walking away from standard.
Could have fooled me.
So @byl, as far as you can remember, when Riga left, was the general feeling that he had walked out on Standard, and that just wasn't a very nice and proper thing to do? Was there some sympathy for RD that this had happened?
it was just seen as a move by Riga to get to some place where he could earn a lot more.. maybe also doing more what he wanted to do. Standard appointed a new caoch afetr that and that was it.
It will be interesting comparing our fortunes with Blackpool's this season.