One year contract - nice to see a sign of total commitment. I'll try not to get too attached then. Is it permanent or does this count as a loan ? At the end of the year does he return to SL ? Pleased to see YB arrive but not quite sure what to make of the 1 year contract. The YB arrival will need to be seen with the comings and goings of other players.
The one year contract does smack a bit of fattening Yoni up to sell on. A longer contract would have been more convincing, however I hope it all works out in the end and I suppose if he turns out to be an, ahem, inappropriate signing, we won't be stuck with him.
One year contract - nice to see a sign of total commitment. I'll try not to get too attached to the player then. Pleased to see YB arrive but not quite sure what to make of the 1 year contract.
It is a loan, strange set up and far from ideal IMO.
Nobody knows what he'll be like until he starts playing for us in the Championship. I have every faith in what RD is doing though so I'm quietly optimistic.
One year contract - nice to see a sign of total commitment. I'll try not to get too attached to the player then. Pleased to see YB arrive but not quite sure what to make of the 1 year contract.
It is a loan, strange set up and far from ideal IMO.
Far from ideal? How exactly do you think we are going to afford a GBP 2.5 million player, given the FFP rules, except by loaning him?
I truly despair - under Parkinson nearly every signing was on a 12 month contract because it was all we could afford. Did it impact on their ability to at least try and compete on our behalf. The lad is coming on a initial loan because a) it means we do not have pay a fee b) neither he or we will know how he will adapt to the Championship c) neither he or we know he and his family will settle in the UK d) neither he or we know how well the club will fare over the next 12 months.
He then has the comfort of returning to Liege if things do not work out and /or moving on with the parent club receiving some remuneration into the bargain. However if it does work out he may well stay for considerably longer!
So far from being strange it is entirely logical at nearly every level.
One year contract - nice to see a sign of total commitment. I'll try not to get too attached to the player then. Pleased to see YB arrive but not quite sure what to make of the 1 year contract.
It is a loan, strange set up and far from ideal IMO.
Far from ideal? How exactly do you think we are going to afford a GBP 2.5 million player, given the FFP rules, except by loaning him?
We've already forked out from what I'm hearing similar to that amount on Igor...
I truly despair - under Parkinson nearly every signing was on a 12 month contract because it was all we could afford. Did it impact on their ability to at least try and compete on our behalf. The lad is coming on a initial loan because a) it means we do not have pay a fee b) neither he or we will know how he will adapt to the Championship c) neither he or we know he and his family will settle in the UK d) neither he or we know how well the club will fare over the next 12 months.
He then has the comfort of returning to Liege if things do not work out and /or moving on with the parent club receiving some remuneration into the bargain. However if it does work out he may well stay for considerably longer!
So far from being strange it is entirely logical at nearly every level.
Can't say one way or another whether he is a good signing, hopefully he is, but is the deal not equally open to the interpretation that he is deemed surplus to requirements at SL and sending him to us is a way for RD to try to get more value from an existing contractual commitment? Surely the point of his network is that decisions are made for the wider benefit of the clubs/owner, not just for one club. That doesn't preclude them being good for Charlton, but equally they may be made for the benefit of Standard Liege/RD and the balance between the two will be different in each case.
He's on loan. So that has pros and cons. Most likely no fee and maybe SL paying wages although we don't know that.
But if he is a hit he can be called back to SL to see out the last year of his contract there.
Some people have a big down on loans and accuse them of not caring or trying enough. I don't but it will be thrown at him right away if he has a bad game.
He is 26 and a regular at SL.
But he's never played in England before so how long before he gets used to the country and the style?
I think he's a good addition to our so far tiny squad.
But he is one player. Let's see how he does and who else come in and leaves before either moaning about "more sub-standard loans" or praising the "dawning a new glorious era".
I truly despair - under Parkinson nearly every signing was on a 12 month contract because it was all we could afford. Did it impact on their ability to at least try and compete on our behalf. The lad is coming on a initial loan because a) it means we do not have pay a fee b) neither he or we will know how he will adapt to the Championship c) neither he or we know he and his family will settle in the UK d) neither he or we know how well the club will fare over the next 12 months.
He then has the comfort of returning to Liege if things do not work out and /or moving on with the parent club receiving some remuneration into the bargain. However if it does work out he may well stay for considerably longer!
So far from being strange it is entirely logical at nearly every level.
Can't say one way or another whether he is a good signing, hopefully he is, but is the deal not equally open to the interpretation that he is deemed surplus to requirements at SL and sending him to us is a way for RD to try to get more value from an existing contractual commitment? Surely the point of his network is that decisions are made for the wider benefit of the clubs/owner, not just for one club. That doesn't preclude them being good for Charlton, but equally they may be made for the benefit of Standard Liege/RD and the balance between the two will be different in each case.
What is different this time is that Peeters knows Buyens and has played alongside him . Powell only knew Ajdarevic and everyone accepts he was a success despite his fitness problems. Our new Head Coach will stand or fall on his own judgements of which this will be one.
Even if Poyet DOES stay, that would leave our central midfield options as he, Cousins, and Jackson - less charitably, 2 kids and a man whose legs long since failed to match his heart. Harriot showed how variable youth talents can be (which I don't mean as criticism, merely illustration) and anyone who thinks Jackson is going to improve without being dosed with Captain America-style superdrugs is deluding themselves. Buyen's age, experience, ability all seem to be exactly the right levels for where we as a club are right now and would like to be heading as far as I can see. The one year thing is worrying, but then Bob and his new team all got just the one year too so it could just be the RD way for all we know.
I truly despair - under Parkinson nearly every signing was on a 12 month contract because it was all we could afford. Did it impact on their ability to at least try and compete on our behalf. The lad is coming on a initial loan because a) it means we do not have pay a fee b) neither he or we will know how he will adapt to the Championship c) neither he or we know he and his family will settle in the UK d) neither he or we know how well the club will fare over the next 12 months.
He then has the comfort of returning to Liege if things do not work out and /or moving on with the parent club receiving some remuneration into the bargain. However if it does work out he may well stay for considerably longer!
So far from being strange it is entirely logical at nearly every level.
Can't say one way or another whether he is a good signing, hopefully he is, but is the deal not equally open to the interpretation that he is deemed surplus to requirements at SL and sending him to us is a way for RD to try to get more value from an existing contractual commitment? Surely the point of his network is that decisions are made for the wider benefit of the clubs/owner, not just for one club. That doesn't preclude them being good for Charlton, but equally they may be made for the benefit of Standard Liege/RD and the balance between the two will be different in each case.
What is different this time is that Peeters knows Buyens and has played alongside him . Powell only knew Ajdarevic and everyone accepts he was a success despite his fitness problems. Our new Head Coach will stand or fall on his own judgements of which this will be one.
Not sure I buy that. It is obvious that Peeters will not have the level of influence over signings that previous "managers" have had, not least because of the clear preference for network and Belgian-connected players. Of course, he may well be keen on this guy, but generally I don't think there is any basis for confidence his judgements will be decisive.
I also think "everyone accepts AA was a success" is pushing it. Indeed, it wasn't even the unqualified view of the playing management (post-Powell).
Surely one of the points of Roland's network is that he can loan players between clubs without the hassle of agents and without buying a player in from outside?
Fact of the matter is that RD is looking to earn VFM on all his players. This is how the network works and, from my viewpoint, something we will see a lot of whilst we are owned by RD. We won't know how well this will play out for us until we have seen things from a longer term viewpoint.
We also have to avoid jumping on this feller's back and labelling him as being crap before he has even played for us. As part of the network he's been loaned out so coming to Charlton may not be his decision. So to those who are slagging him off already, let's give the lad a chance to prove himself with us, please.
Less cynicism More optimism from me at least. Looks to be a good signing. We shall see. I cant remember there being so much downbeat stuff about new signings(albeit loans) for quite some time. Shame.
Welcome Yoni ... Hope it goes well. Don't know how good you are but I promise not to boo until I've seen you play at least 10 times. In other words, I'll give you a chance to prove yourself ;0)
I truly despair - under Parkinson nearly every signing was on a 12 month contract because it was all we could afford. Did it impact on their ability to at least try and compete on our behalf. The lad is coming on a initial loan because a) it means we do not have pay a fee b) neither he or we will know how he will adapt to the Championship c) neither he or we know he and his family will settle in the UK d) neither he or we know how well the club will fare over the next 12 months.
He then has the comfort of returning to Liege if things do not work out and /or moving on with the parent club receiving some remuneration into the bargain. However if it does work out he may well stay for considerably longer!
So far from being strange it is entirely logical at nearly every level.
Can't say one way or another whether he is a good signing, hopefully he is, but is the deal not equally open to the interpretation that he is deemed surplus to requirements at SL and sending him to us is a way for RD to try to get more value from an existing contractual commitment? Surely the point of his network is that decisions are made for the wider benefit of the clubs/owner, not just for one club. That doesn't preclude them being good for Charlton, but equally they may be made for the benefit of Standard Liege/RD and the balance between the two will be different in each case.
What is different this time is that Peeters knows Buyens and has played alongside him . Powell only knew Ajdarevic and everyone accepts he was a success despite his fitness problems. Our new Head Coach will stand or fall on his own judgements of which this will be one.
Not sure I buy that. It is obvious that Peeters will not have the level of influence over signings that previous "managers" have had, not least because of the clear preference for network and Belgian-connected players. Of course, he may well be keen on this guy, but generally I don't think there is any basis for confidence his judgements will be decisive.
I also think "everyone accepts AA was a success" is pushing it. Indeed, it wasn't even the unqualified view of the playing management (post-Powell).
Who didn't rate him?
I accept that fitness was an issue with AA. With his assists against Leeds , Forest and QPR and the goal against Yeovil he made a decisive contribution to our survival .When he played it provided a creative influence which we otherwise lacked.
Back to Peeters , I accept it is a different model which he is working to but so far the rumour mill is pointing towards players who have links with him , I can't believe that we would sign players he did not rate.
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He then has the comfort of returning to Liege if things do not work out and /or moving on with the parent club receiving some remuneration into the bargain. However if it does work out he may well stay for considerably longer!
So far from being strange it is entirely logical at nearly every level.
He's on loan. So that has pros and cons. Most likely no fee and maybe SL paying wages although we don't know that.
But if he is a hit he can be called back to SL to see out the last year of his contract there.
Some people have a big down on loans and accuse them of not caring or trying enough. I don't but it will be thrown at him right away if he has a bad game.
He is 26 and a regular at SL.
But he's never played in England before so how long before he gets used to the country and the style?
I think he's a good addition to our so far tiny squad.
But he is one player. Let's see how he does and who else come in and leaves before either moaning about "more sub-standard loans" or praising the "dawning a new glorious era".
I'll get me duffel.
What is different this time is that Peeters knows Buyens and has played alongside him . Powell only knew Ajdarevic and everyone accepts he was a success despite his fitness problems. Our new Head Coach will stand or fall on his own judgements of which this will be one.
I also think "everyone accepts AA was a success" is pushing it. Indeed, it wasn't even the unqualified view of the playing management (post-Powell).
Fact of the matter is that RD is looking to earn VFM on all his players. This is how the network works and, from my viewpoint, something we will see a lot of whilst we are owned by RD. We won't know how well this will play out for us until we have seen things from a longer term viewpoint.
We also have to avoid jumping on this feller's back and labelling him as being crap before he has even played for us. As part of the network he's been loaned out so coming to Charlton may not be his decision. So to those who are slagging him off already, let's give the lad a chance to prove himself with us, please.
I accept that fitness was an issue with AA. With his assists against Leeds , Forest and QPR and the goal against Yeovil he made a decisive contribution to our survival .When he played it provided a creative influence which we otherwise lacked.
Back to Peeters , I accept it is a different model which he is working to but so far the rumour mill is pointing towards players who have links with him , I can't believe that we would sign players he did not rate.