Surely as Steau cancelled the loan he is technically not contracted to anyone and can be signed by anyone as a free agent... Potentially by his previous employers?
He's on an international loan for the whole of this current season.
He can't return to play for Charlton for that reason outside of the transfer window
He can only play for another club Romania but Steau have "cancelled" his contract and he's effectively a free agent unpaid until he returns to us next summer (if we want him) or he finds another Romanian club.
The famous case of Bosman and the 1995 court of justice ruling about freedom of movement for workers. The only person who didn't benefit from this was Jean Marc Bosman.
One big f@@k up after another. He would have been an ideal replacement for the Viking at this precise time.
Ideal might be stretching it a bit, the ideal replacement would probably be Ibrahimovich, but Georgie Boy would at least offer a bit of hold up play and a vague hope that the ball might stay in the opposition half for more than 2 touches at a time.
Its frustrating... I've no issue us signing the likes of Polish Pete or Gorgeous George if they've got the potential, what they've both proven is that they've struggled to adapt to the English League so to give them game time they've been shipped off abroad.
Is more difficult with George as he's older but with Polish Pete I just cant understand why we didn't try to send him to a League One or League Two team, get him to complete his English apprenticeship in the lower leagues where you truly learn about English Football and then we can see whether he's good enough for Charlton!!
Answer would still probably be no but they'd probably stand more chance of adapting by playing the English game somewhere.
Well if you sign a load of bargain basement players on low wages and less than 50% turn out to be any good then it's a complete false economy. You end up paying the wages yet if you'd have spent wisely in the first place you could have just bought 1 decent player rather than 2 shite-mediocre.
I don't think Polish Pete is up to the standard of non league. What level is he at with his current loan club? And he's barely played by all accounts.
Well is the Danish Premier League (So the same level from where Vetokele came from)
Don't know if @flyingkiwiDK knows much about him and how he's doing with Randers at the moment?
Randers are currently mid table (6th) in the Danish Superliga and as @ForeverAddickted said Polish Pete has only played a handful of games. 7 appearances and 1 goal to date.
I don't think Polish Pete is up to the standard of non league. What level is he at with his current loan club? And he's barely played by all accounts.
Well is the Danish Premier League (So the same level from where Vetokele came from)
Don't know if @flyingkiwiDK knows much about him and how he's doing with Randers at the moment?
Randers are currently mid table (6th) in the Danish Superliga and as @ForeverAddickted said Polish Pete has only played a handful of games. 7 appearances and 1 goal to date.
What level would you compare the Danish league to?
Especially as Stephan Andersen plays for FC Copenhagen these days (Who I guess are the run away team?)
George reminded me a bit of Paul Hayes. Not as strong as you'd expect given their size and no use at holding the ball up, but both capable of a moment of creative brilliance that could suddenly create a chance from nothing in the final third. The problem with both was the lack of consistency in drawing out these chances and their ability to totally lose technique suddenly and either send an easy shot tamely to nowhere or completely bottle shooting and lay it off no a defender. And it there's one thing that will frustrate football fans it's strikers not shooting when the get a chance and being dominated in the air. If George could have been more consistent with some of his fantastic passes he might have been cut a bit more slack and formed a decent partnership with Igor. Oh well.
Well if you sign a load of bargain basement players on low wages and less than 50% turn out to be any good then it's a complete false economy. You end up paying the wages yet if you'd have spent wisely in the first place you could have just bought 1 decent player rather than 2 shite-mediocre.
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That's exactly how I see this mess, mate.
There's this waffle about running the club in a financially sustainable way by pursuing shrewd player purchases but ultimately those purchases fail and we've pissed away more money in transfer fees and wages than if we'd have just bought wisely in the first place.
To make things worse we've got a bottom 3 budget whilst we're pursuing this craziness.
Well if you sign a load of bargain basement players on low wages and less than 50% turn out to be any good then it's a complete false economy. You end up paying the wages yet if you'd have spent wisely in the first place you could have just bought 1 decent player rather than 2 shite-mediocre.
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That's exactly how I see this mess, mate.
There's this waffle about running the club in a financially sustainable way by pursuing shrewd player purchases but ultimately those purchases fail and we've pissed away more money in transfer fees and wages than if we'd have just bought wisely in the first place.
To make things worse we've got a bottom 3 budget whilst we're pursuing this craziness.
Exactly. Running a club in a financially stable way isn't as easy as setting a really low cost budget, it's about being shrewd in revenue generation and cost management. It's about maximising the effectiveness of the money that you do spend and not being afraid to spend more if the upturn in revenue justifies it.
That's one of the aspects of Murray's Q&A lecture that's so galling, him patronisingly banging on about financial prudence while the regime continue to spunk money on players that add nothing and to an extent, even capital investments that do little or nothing to aid the performance on the pitch.
I don't think Polish Pete is up to the standard of non league. What level is he at with his current loan club? And he's barely played by all accounts.
Well is the Danish Premier League (So the same level from where Vetokele came from)
Don't know if @flyingkiwiDK knows much about him and how he's doing with Randers at the moment?
Randers are currently mid table (6th) in the Danish Superliga and as @ForeverAddickted said Polish Pete has only played a handful of games. 7 appearances and 1 goal to date.
What level would you compare the Danish league to?
Especially as Stephan Andersen plays for FC Copenhagen these days (Who I guess are the run away team?)
I would say that most of the teams in the Danish Superliga are mid-lower Championship level at best. FC Copenhagen and FC Midtjylland (last seasons champions) would maybe challenge for the playoffs whilst teams like Hobro (population 5,000) and would probably be Div 1 standard.
Its frustrating... I've no issue us signing the likes of Polish Pete or Gorgeous George if they've got the potential, what they've both proven is that they've struggled to adapt to the English League so to give them game time they've been shipped off abroad.
Is more difficult with George as he's older but with Polish Pete I just cant understand why we didn't try to send him to a League One or League Two team, get him to complete his English apprenticeship in the lower leagues where you truly learn about English Football and then we can see whether he's good enough for Charlton!!
Answer would still probably be no but they'd probably stand more chance of adapting by playing the English game somewhere.
Many players struggle to adapt when they first move to a new country. With us, we sign these players, give them a few months then if they don't succeed resell them or send them abroad on loan, so they'll never adapt to British football!
Dmitrovic is a slightly different example, as he did ok for us. Was he signed to be a future Charlton goalkeeper, as if he was why send him on loan abroad? Surely a loan to a British club would be far better.
George reminded me a bit of Paul Hayes. Not as strong as you'd expect given their size and no use at holding the ball up, but both capable of a moment of creative brilliance that could suddenly create a chance from nothing in the final third. The problem with both was the lack of consistency in drawing out these chances and their ability to totally lose technique suddenly and either send an easy shot tamely to nowhere or completely bottle shooting and lay it off no a defender. And it there's one thing that will frustrate football fans it's strikers not shooting when the get a chance and being dominated in the air. If George could have been more consistent with some of his fantastic passes he might have been cut a bit more slack and formed a decent partnership with Igor. Oh well.
I think that's a fair comparison. Chances did seem to fall to George (as opposed to someone like Marcus Bent who could go for games without having a chance) which suggested he had something about him. I would like to have seen him play in a dominant side, like say our League 1 promotion team. I could see him working well with BWP, like Paul Hayes did.
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He's still registered with Charlton.
He's on an international loan for the whole of this current season.
He can't return to play for Charlton for that reason outside of the transfer window
He can only play for another club Romania but Steau have "cancelled" his contract and he's effectively a free agent unpaid until he returns to us next summer (if we want him) or he finds another Romanian club.
But I could be wrong.
The only person who didn't benefit from this was Jean Marc Bosman.
George sound like he stuck in Limbo.
Will this be another case ?
The Tucadean ruling.
Also why we don't have a Romanian Addick ?
http://www.asatirgumures.ro/stiri/bun-venit-george-ucudean
Shows the lack of planning in recruitment that we are still paying his wages 12 months on.
Is more difficult with George as he's older but with Polish Pete I just cant understand why we didn't try to send him to a League One or League Two team, get him to complete his English apprenticeship in the lower leagues where you truly learn about English Football and then we can see whether he's good enough for Charlton!!
Answer would still probably be no but they'd probably stand more chance of adapting by playing the English game somewhere.
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Don't know if @flyingkiwiDK knows much about him and how he's doing with Randers at the moment?
Especially as Stephan Andersen plays for FC Copenhagen these days (Who I guess are the run away team?)
There's this waffle about running the club in a financially sustainable way by pursuing shrewd player purchases but ultimately those purchases fail and we've pissed away more money in transfer fees and wages than if we'd have just bought wisely in the first place.
To make things worse we've got a bottom 3 budget whilst we're pursuing this craziness.
I do think that he instantly got "shite" status by missing that chance
That's one of the aspects of Murray's Q&A lecture that's so galling, him patronisingly banging on about financial prudence while the regime continue to spunk money on players that add nothing and to an extent, even capital investments that do little or nothing to aid the performance on the pitch.
Dmitrovic is a slightly different example, as he did ok for us. Was he signed to be a future Charlton goalkeeper, as if he was why send him on loan abroad? Surely a loan to a British club would be far better.