Horses and humans feel the same pain when whipped, study finds
Landmark research comes as Racing Victoria tables proposal to phase out the whip, saying rules on its use ‘no longer appropriate’
There is no significant difference in the way humans and horses experience the pain of being struck by a whip, according to a landmark study that researchers say should end the argument on the continued use of the whip in horse racing.
It comes as Racing Victoria reaffirmed its commitment to reforming whip rules, after it formally tabled a proposal to phase out the whip at a board meeting of Racing Australia on Wednesday.
Racing Victoria said it would not discuss the meeting but that it maintained its belief that “the current national whip rules are no longer appropriate and that whip reform is vital for the future of our sport”.
Once we’re back to some sort of normality want to visit a lot more racecourses.
the tingle creek and the festival are my 2 usual trips for the year.
I’m biased because I work there, but the 3 day August festival at Brighton is a great day/s out. Stunning views over the coast & South Downs & such a cool city for a night out.....
Horses and humans feel the same pain when whipped, study finds
Landmark research comes as Racing Victoria tables proposal to phase out the whip, saying rules on its use ‘no longer appropriate’
There is no significant difference in the way humans and horses experience the pain of being struck by a whip, according to a landmark study that researchers say should end the argument on the continued use of the whip in horse racing.
It comes as Racing Victoria reaffirmed its commitment to reforming whip rules, after it formally tabled a proposal to phase out the whip at a board meeting of Racing Australia on Wednesday.
Racing Victoria said it would not discuss the meeting but that it maintained its belief that “the current national whip rules are no longer appropriate and that whip reform is vital for the future of our sport”.
Didn't need to look further in than the article to find that the headline is slightly misleading.
"The dermis of the horse – the layer of tissue below the epidermis, or outer layer of skin – is significantly thicker than that of humans. But this research, led by veterinary pathologist Dr Lydia Tong of the Taronga Conservation Society, said that while that thicker dermis may offer some resilience against trauma, “it is not considered protective from external cutaneous pain”."
I'm not a dermatologist but I'd have thought there might be significance in that. After all, having been hit by a modern race horse whip myself, it's not hurt. What this study appears to determine is that human skin and horse skin has the same sensitivity on the outer layers, and not much further else.
Horses and humans feel the same pain when whipped, study finds
Landmark research comes as Racing Victoria tables proposal to phase out the whip, saying rules on its use ‘no longer appropriate’
There is no significant difference in the way humans and horses experience the pain of being struck by a whip, according to a landmark study that researchers say should end the argument on the continued use of the whip in horse racing.
It comes as Racing Victoria reaffirmed its commitment to reforming whip rules, after it formally tabled a proposal to phase out the whip at a board meeting of Racing Australia on Wednesday.
Racing Victoria said it would not discuss the meeting but that it maintained its belief that “the current national whip rules are no longer appropriate and that whip reform is vital for the future of our sport”.
Hi guys just got off the phone to my brother and he has told me that his horse Rakhine state is running at Cheltenham 1.15 tomorrow, he is currently 16/1 on paddy power so definitely worth a e/W bet, the trainer has said he has never seen the horse this “READY” for a race might be worth a shot for you guys
Hi guys just got off the phone to my brother and he has told me that his horse Rakhine state is running at Cheltenham 1.15 tomorrow, he is currently 16/1 on paddy power so definitely worth a e/W bet, the trainer has said he has never seen the horse this “READY” for a race might be worth a shot for you guys
18s on skybet with 6 places but as it’s extra place race they aren’t BOG.
Hi guys just got off the phone to my brother and he has told me that his horse Rakhine state is running at Cheltenham 1.15 tomorrow, he is currently 16/1 on paddy power so definitely worth a e/W bet, the trainer has said he has never seen the horse this “READY” for a race might be worth a shot for you guys
18s on skybet with 6 places but as it’s extra place race they aren’t BOG.
Into 16s on Sky. But 18s still available on William Hill. Just did £2.50 e/w.
Any skybet horse racing market with “ extra places “ does not offer best odds gauranteed. It could be nothing last time I backed it at 25/1 it came 2nd drifted like a barge and only backed it to win!
Hi guys just got off the phone to my brother and he has told me that his horse Rakhine state is running at Cheltenham 1.15 tomorrow, he is currently 16/1 on paddy power so definitely worth a e/W bet, the trainer has said he has never seen the horse this “READY” for a race might be worth a shot for you guys
1.50 - Beat The Judge 2.25 - wouldn't have a dart in a race like this, but at the prices, Mossy Fen 3.00 - this will be Easysland by a long way. Tentative pick of Little Bruce to fill a place, maybe. 3.35 - Grand Mogul 4.05 - The Bees Knees (hardly imaginative but Fergal is in fantastic form. His other shot has come in to 17/2 from 11s though so one to note). Percy's Word and Seaborn are ones I'll be noting given their potential/lack of exposition.
12.30 - Duffle Coat, maybe, but this is a watching race. (If there's a drift I'd probably get on.) 1.05 - Bermeo is interesting e/w, likewise Equus Secretus 1.40 - Quel Destin because of the price. Fusil Raffles is a worthy favourite, though. 2.15 - This will be a great race. Tentative poke at Al Dancer for the win. Coole Cody or Slate House e/w. 2.50 - no idea. Wouldn't have a dart in this race but Good Man Pat has been backed in for Alan King. 3.25 - no idea, either. Looking at the market, Dagueneau has collapsed in price, and Topofthecotswolds has been nibbled at. For all that I'd probably be on Kepagge. 3.55 - watching brief. Ishkhara Lady is probably best price vs win proposition, though Martello Lady has shortened in price too.
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Horses and humans feel the same pain when whipped, study finds
Landmark research comes as Racing Victoria tables proposal to phase out the whip, saying rules on its use ‘no longer appropriate’There is no significant difference in the way humans and horses experience the pain of being struck by a whip, according to a landmark study that researchers say should end the argument on the continued use of the whip in horse racing.
It comes as Racing Victoria reaffirmed its commitment to reforming whip rules, after it formally tabled a proposal to phase out the whip at a board meeting of Racing Australia on Wednesday.
Racing Victoria said it would not discuss the meeting but that it maintained its belief that “the current national whip rules are no longer appropriate and that whip reform is vital for the future of our sport”.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/nov/12/horse-whip-humans-feel-same-pain-study-finds?CMP=share_btn_tw
"The dermis of the horse – the layer of tissue below the epidermis, or outer layer of skin – is significantly thicker than that of humans. But this research, led by veterinary pathologist Dr Lydia Tong of the Taronga Conservation Society, said that while that thicker dermis may offer some resilience against trauma, “it is not considered protective from external cutaneous pain”."
I'm not a dermatologist but I'd have thought there might be significance in that. After all, having been hit by a modern race horse whip myself, it's not hurt. What this study appears to determine is that human skin and horse skin has the same sensitivity on the outer layers, and not much further else.
Hi guys just got off the phone to my brother and he has told me that his horse Rakhine state is running at Cheltenham 1.15 tomorrow, he is currently 16/1 on paddy power so definitely worth a e/W bet, the trainer has said he has never seen the horse this “READY” for a race might be worth a shot for you guys
But 18s still available on William Hill.
Just did £2.50 e/w.
I've gone for Beat the Judge
1.50 - Beat The Judge
2.25 - wouldn't have a dart in a race like this, but at the prices, Mossy Fen
3.00 - this will be Easysland by a long way. Tentative pick of Little Bruce to fill a place, maybe.
3.35 - Grand Mogul
4.05 - The Bees Knees (hardly imaginative but Fergal is in fantastic form. His other shot has come in to 17/2 from 11s though so one to note). Percy's Word and Seaborn are ones I'll be noting given their potential/lack of exposition.
12.30 - Duffle Coat, maybe, but this is a watching race. (If there's a drift I'd probably get on.)
1.05 - Bermeo is interesting e/w, likewise Equus Secretus
1.40 - Quel Destin because of the price. Fusil Raffles is a worthy favourite, though.
2.15 - This will be a great race. Tentative poke at Al Dancer for the win. Coole Cody or Slate House e/w.
2.50 - no idea. Wouldn't have a dart in this race but Good Man Pat has been backed in for Alan King.
3.25 - no idea, either. Looking at the market, Dagueneau has collapsed in price, and Topofthecotswolds has been nibbled at. For all that I'd probably be on Kepagge.
3.55 - watching brief. Ishkhara Lady is probably best price vs win proposition, though Martello Lady has shortened in price too.