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  • I backed a horse that happened to be owned by Harry Redknapp today (not the reason I backed it). To say I was less than amused with the ride is an understatement. The Stewards took the same view. And rightly so.

    An enquiry was held into the running and riding of NORTHERN AIR (IRE), ridden by Paddy Brennan, and trained by Fergal O’Brien, which was held up in rear, before beginning to improve its position racing down the side of the course and then continuing its progress through the field under apparent tender handling up the home straight to finish second of ten runners, beaten by 3¼ lengths. The rider and trainer’s representative were interviewed, and the trainer was interviewed by telephone and recordings of the race were shown. The Veterinary Officer performed two post-race examinations of the mare and had nothing to report on both occasions. The rider stated that his instructions were to switch NORTHERN AIR (IRE) off and take his time as the mare ran extremely keen in her previous race, before weakening in the final furlong, a national hunt flat race at Newbury. Brennan explained that the objective for today’s run was to drop NORTHERN AIR (IRE) out and to get her to finish her race strongly as she was ridden handier at Newbury which resulted in the mare emptying out and finishing the race fairly distressed. He stated that the mare raced keenly throughout and that as he began to make up ground turning into the home straight, he heard NORTHERN AIR (IRE) make a respiratory noise. Brennan continued that being mindful that it was the mare’s first run over hurdles, he wanted to ensure NORTHERN AIR (IRE) finished her race more positively and therefore focused on keeping the bit up in her mouth, being patient and riding her up the straight to hit the line. Brennan reported that he was happy with the mare’s run as she had finished her race strongly today. Both the trainer and trainer’s representative confirmed the instructions and were satisfied the ride accorded with those instructions. Brennan was suspended for 18 days and O’Brien fined £4000 for schooling and conditioning the horse on the racecourse in that Brennan had failed to ride his mount in such a way that he could be seen to ask for timely, real and substantial effort to obtain the best possible placing on NORTHERN AIR (IRE) which was having its first run over hurdles today. NORTHERN AIR (IRE) was suspended from running in any race for 40 days.


  • Nothing would have beaten the favourite 
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    Nothing would have beaten the favourite 


    Possibly not but we'll never know because the second fav wasn't given a chance to do so given that it was 20 plus lengths off the pace for the duration until coming to the second last (when Northern Air even made a mistake that stopped its progression). That is why the Stewards imposed the maximum penalties, that they are allowed to, of an 18 day suspension for the jockey, £4000 fine for the trainer and 40 day ban for the horse, for "schooling and conditioning the horse on the racecourse in that Brennan had failed to ride his mount in such a way that he could be seen to ask for timely, real and substantial effort to obtain the best possible placing".  

    The winner is a 116 rated hurdler and this was its seventh run under Rules and fourth as a hurdler. Northern Air had appeared in one bumper and this was its first as a hurdler. I wouldn't mind betting that Northern Air will prove to be in a short space of time to be the better horse.

    I'm not talking through my pocket because I've long since taken this as part and parcel of the game. Where I have an issue is when the Stewards do not take any action to what is blatant schooling. They have done so and in doing that the focus will be on no just Northern Air but other Brennan/O'Brien horses who are given similar orders.  I'm sure that Betfair will be asked by the BHA to look at who layed the horse to the extent that, having been 5/2 with the bookies in the morning, it returned a BSP of 8.31
  • RIP Shiskin
  • RIP Shiskin
    Very sad news. He should have been going to Punchestown this week.
    RIP
  • Goes from bad to worse for Henderson.
    RIP Shishkin
  • Seeing the daughter of Tom, granddaughter of Peter and great-granddaughter of Michael riding at Wolverhampton has suddenly made me feel rather old. They must all have had their respective children as teenagers as far as I'm concerned!  
  • Derby Day (should be next Wednesday of course!).

    My shillings:

    Los Angeles for the win at 6/1 
    Each-way dabble on Voyager at 28/1
  • Whoever is in charge of PR for this event, needs shooting.


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  • bobmunro said:
    Derby Day (should be next Wednesday of course!).

    My shillings:

    Los Angeles for the win at 6/1 
    Each-way dabble on Voyager at 28/1
    Los Angeles win, and r/f with ancient wisdom
  • Sums my luck up. Did Sayedaty Satady ew at 66 first 4 and I think he's just been touched off.
  • City of Troy didn't like that loose horse in front of him. He was busting a gut to get ahead of him and Ryan Moore struggled to pull him up.
  • bobmunro said:
    Derby Day (should be next Wednesday of course!).

    My shillings:

    Los Angeles for the win at 6/1 
    Each-way dabble on Voyager at 28/1
    Voyage crossed the line first but, sadly, no jockey on his back. I went for City Of Troy to win and Tabletalk each way as the odds on Tabletalk were generous.
  • Special horse - if Aidan reckons he's the best he's trained (and he trained Galileo!) than I would not dream to question that.
  • Had 3 notifications on me betting apps this morning bet 365 restrictions place and withdrawing money back to me. That’s 2nd account had restricted with bet 365. Tote emailed saying banned  from all free promotions and sky won’t let one of me accounts enter ITV 7. 🤪anyone would have thought I’d have skint them over the weekend. 
    Must be time of year they check accounts to see if there making money or not. 



  • Had 3 notifications on me betting apps this morning bet 365 restrictions place and withdrawing money back to me. That’s 2nd account had restricted with bet 365. Tote emailed saying banned  from all free promotions and sky won’t let one of me accounts enter ITV 7. 🤪anyone would have thought I’d have skint them over the weekend. 
    Must be time of year they check accounts to see if there making money or not. 




    So three bookmakers restrict you at roughly the same time and you say it may be the time of year - remarkably coincidental. One of your accounts with the Sky? You are only supposed to have one account!

    There isn't a 'time of year' btw.
  • No I do the ITV 7 on wife and kids accounts. 
    Don’t think they should ban you from the free games like this but is what it is 
  • 3Horse silk7Columnist50/1



    Tricast paid nearly 85,000/1!

  • Like ouzo in the next... 48/1 on the exchange and can get 22s on sky bet, paying 7 places. Won last 3 races on good/good to firm. Probably won't win, but price seems too big
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  • Off to Lingfield on Saturday, first time in years. Does anyone in the know have any tips?
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    Having a blinding week on Sky’s money back as cash offers
  • Having a blinding week on Sky’s money back as cash offers
    Make the most of it.
  • Had 3/4 winners in max stakes, the other was places so got money back
  • Sorry to read that Istabraq has passed away at the age of 32. Gave pleasure to a lot of people especially those that backed him over the course of his highly successful career. He was retired to the home of JP McMcanus where I'm sure he was thoroughly and rightly spoilt.   
  • Sorry to read that Istabraq has passed away at the age of 32. Gave pleasure to a lot of people especially those that backed him over the course of his highly successful career. He was retired to the home of JP McMcanus where I'm sure he was thoroughly and rightly spoilt.   
    Sad loss but at 32 had a long life. 
    I remember that John Durkan bought the horse out of the Gosdens yard, where he worked,  and was diagnosed with leukaemia before he could train him himself. Sadly he passed away soon after. RIP
  • Sorry to read that Istabraq has passed away at the age of 32. Gave pleasure to a lot of people especially those that backed him over the course of his highly successful career. He was retired to the home of JP McMcanus where I'm sure he was thoroughly and rightly spoilt.   

    One of, if not the greatest ever hurdler - magnificent horse. I was very lucky to see him win all of his three Champion Hurdles live (as well as the Sun Alliance in 1997). I also know for a fact that he was treated like the King he was at Martinstown and JP and the whole McManus family absolutely adored him.
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