heard someone say Standard would be paying his wages whilst he was here, if so then surely its a win win
But therein possibly lies the problem.
Charlton may need a player and Duchatelet/whoever say bring one over from the 'network' so it saves on a transfer fee.
Surely if we get a player like Watt without us using any of our wage budget surely its a no lose situation, if he plays well we have a good player for the rest of the season, and if he dont he is used of the bench like Bulot and we have more depth on the bench
at the end of the day if it costs us nothing I am all for it
I'll cast my mind back to January with the 'quality' that came in then on a foc basis.
Fuck him then let someone else try with him and when they get it right and he scores our own resident stylist can start a new thread on his achievements,
So far the noises are he is here he will be signing and we won't be paying his wages
The synisism of any signing lately is getting ridiculous
Where has anyone actually written him off? It's a fact that the last five managers he's been under have said that his attitude is shite. If fans can't question a transfer subject like that then we can never question any transfer ever.
Not seen Watt play apart from "that" goal. Reputed to be quick but unlikely to be the hold up player we need. Looking at Belgian Pro league, apart from ageing de Camargo who is SL top scorer, best fit seems to be Laurent Depoitre 26, who gets one every 2.5 starts and is 6'3". Would take both him and TW. AA getting splinters so is he fit? Can't see past BPL for players.
I'd take watt and adjarevic bit I'm hoping there will be a third who is much like vetokele. In that he is from somewhere in Europe a relative unknown but clearly quality and we have to slash a bit of cash to get him.. although no too much cash..
Relax, it's not your money, Rolly is loaded. :-)
Yes but with ffp still pretty tight for another year we can't spend over the odds.. and so we don't wanna blow it all on one guy as we might need to spend a little on a cb or others...
Also it's always satisfying to build a squad without over sprnding!
That was a bit tongue in cheek because I don't ever see Rolly throwing his money around willy nilly, Igor being the exception. From what we know about him so far he buys em young with potential and a view to developing them before selling on for profit.
Most of the young loans to us from the network have not been a rip roaring success thus far (Thuram, Nego, Pete, and jury still out on Bullot and George) but time will tell. Let's see if Watt signs, he can redress that imbalance, I sincerely hope he does.
Keep those seat belts fastened for the ''bumpy ride ahead".
Hate to say but I cant see where the bumpy ride is... We're free of Administration, we're complying with FFP (with fines etc... now coming into force), we may be sliding down the table a bit but am sure Peeters will address that and stabilise us, we've had a lot worse in recent years (i.e. Bally Smart having to be signed on a Non-Contract deal because we couldn't afford to give him better, thats the sort of deal that a Non-League side has to make)
No doubt we are better off with Roland than the last two schisters.
said that from the start and that in the medium term we'll be ok under RD but IMHO there will be a bumpy ride.
And that has already happened. 3 coaches in 3 months, lots of first teamers leaving, lots of loans and transfers from the network, good players like Igor and JBG coming in from outside the network, new pitch, redundancies, new catering and a tiny squad hit by injuries. Add the changes in FFP to that.
still pro RD but the phrase "bumpy ride" comes from the evidence so far that we are going to see a lot of changes and set backs as well as moves forward rather than a glorious, no problem march to the premiership
heard someone say Standard would be paying his wages whilst he was here, if so then surely its a win win
But therein possibly lies the problem.
Charlton may need a player and Duchatelet/whoever say bring one over from the 'network' so it saves on a transfer fee.
Surely if we get a player like Watt without us using any of our wage budget surely its a no lose situation, if he plays well we have a good player for the rest of the season, and if he dont he is used of the bench like Bulot and we have more depth on the bench
at the end of the day if it costs us nothing I am all for it
If he is sold to us as the forward we have been promised since August but actually he is just a crap reserve with attitude problems,I would say we have been fed bullshit.
Really don't understand some of you lot. We are desperate for a striker and Watt is available through Roland's network. He's british so won't take too long to settle and ok has an attitude. Di Canio came with attitude and he did ok. I like players with a bit of attitude if it can be focussed in the right direction. When this guy fails then let him have it with both barrels but until then I think you should be glad we've got him and give him some support.
Really don't understand some of you lot. We are desperate for a striker and Watt is available through Roland's network. He's british so won't take too long to settle and ok has an attitude. Di Canio came with attitude and he did ok. I like players with a bit of attitude if it can be focussed in the right direction. When this guy fails then let him have it with both barrels but until then I think you should be glad we've got him and give him some support.
Really don't understand some of you lot. We are desperate for a striker and Watt is available through Roland's network. He's british so won't take too long to settle and ok has an attitude. Di Canio came with attitude and he did ok. I like players with a bit of attitude if it can be focussed in the right direction. When this guy fails then let him have it with both barrels but until then I think you should be glad we've got him and give him some support.
He is 'available' because he has been no use.
To Standard maybe but who knows for us. You obviously don't want him to succeed. You've made up your mind. Before you say you do want him to succeed explain why you won't give him a chance.
heard someone say Standard would be paying his wages whilst he was here, if so then surely its a win win
But therein possibly lies the problem.
Charlton may need a player and Duchatelet/whoever say bring one over from the 'network' so it saves on a transfer fee.
Surely if we get a player like Watt without us using any of our wage budget surely its a no lose situation, if he plays well we have a good player for the rest of the season, and if he dont he is used of the bench like Bulot and we have more depth on the bench
at the end of the day if it costs us nothing I am all for it
I'll cast my mind back to January with the 'quality' that came in then on a foc basis.
No, Paulie's right here, there's nothing to worry about. If Watt comes in and is crap then he won't play. This will have cost us nothing. People seem to assume that by getting in Watt we won't be getting anyone else in but there's nothing to say that. If we were buying two cheap strikers instead of the one decent striker we need in order to save money then I'd be concerned but we could sign Watt and Wood or Watt and Aguero, the cost for Watt would still be the same. Cheer up!
Even if he signs, doesn't mean Watt will play - whether or not Powell was pressured to play network players, Big Bob most certainly isn't, just look how much time Bulot has spent on the bench, Wilson or a fit Moussa has been the preferred midfield sub. If he turns out to have a big ego and nothing to justify it... he'll just not play. If he knuckles down and shows the talent he's definitely got hidden under the Billy Big Bollocks attitude, so much the better, another striker is a definite must have in our position.
Talent wise, logistics, wage, position make it all seem a good and obvious signing but with his apparent issues I'm not sure London is the best place to bring him to in all honesty. Worth a go though.
Really don't understand some of you lot. We are desperate for a striker and Watt is available through Roland's network. He's british so won't take too long to settle and ok has an attitude. Di Canio came with attitude and he did ok. I like players with a bit of attitude if it can be focussed in the right direction. When this guy fails then let him have it with both barrels but until then I think you should be glad we've got him and give him some support.
He is 'available' because he has been no use.
You could say that about every player who has ever been a free agent. Doesn't mean he won't come here or somewhere else and do a good job.
Given that both clubs are owned by the same person, can someone please explain to me the difference between 'Charlton are paying the wages' and 'Standard are paying the wages'? It helps for ffp but in the real world it doesnt really make a difference.
It's a reallocation of resources within Staprix group, one that we as a fanbase need to get used to. But there is no obvious reason why it would mean any other transfers in January.
Im happy for him to come, hope he does well here, but lets not pretend this is something it's not.
Whether Staprix are footing the bill or not, CAFC and RSDL are two different football clubs and therefore operate differently and have different wage structures and financial differences. It's like me working for Topman and then going to work for Miss Selfridge. Sure, they are both owned by Arcadia and are both retailers, but that doesn't mean the way I am paid and the financial implications on the companies from my wages won't make a difference
Guys, forget all about Standard Liege. It's not a nice club, supporters are weird (probably the reason RD wants to get rid of them) and if they get a player with an attitude ... it's not the place that will put him straight. He's a young guy, in Britain again, better atmosphere and with a head coach that will sort him out if needed. However, I think another striker would not be a luxury.
Talent wise, logistics, wage, position make it all seem a good and obvious signing but with his apparent issues I'm not sure London is the best place to bring him to in all honesty. Worth a go though.
Dont understand why Tony Watt would have signed for Standard Liege in the first place - when it happened, I thought to myself, 'he'll be playing for us soon' - just seemed obvious, just like it seemed obvious that TBH would be playing for us eventually , and look how that has turned out ! . So, SL paid a shed load of money for him, and we didnt - seems like a 'no lose' (to quote Paulie) situation.
Whether Staprix are footing the bill or not, CAFC and RSDL are two different football clubs and therefore operate differently and have different wage structures and financial differences. It's like me working for Topman and then going to work for Miss Selfridge. Sure, they are both owned by Arcadia and are both retailers, but that doesn't mean the way I am paid and the financial implications on the companies from my wages won't make a difference
If you work on the shopfloor, maybe.
But if youre, say, the Logistics Manager of Topman and youre seconded to Selfridges by the head of Arcadia for 6 months then not really.
There are tax implications and FFP implications but it's not free. If it was Anderlecht paying his wages it might be free.
Whether Staprix are footing the bill or not, CAFC and RSDL are two different football clubs and therefore operate differently and have different wage structures and financial differences. It's like me working for Topman and then going to work for Miss Selfridge. Sure, they are both owned by Arcadia and are both retailers, but that doesn't mean the way I am paid and the financial implications on the companies from my wages won't make a difference
Checking him out on Wiki reveals that any alleged attitude problem is as much as anything to do with his erstwhile manager choosing to respond to the issue in public, not necessarily the best course of action when dealing with an unsettled 20 year old who is away from home. Hope it made his coach feel like a really big guy ....
TW turns 21 on Monday. He and his agent must realise that for his career to settle down and for him to make some real progress, now would be a very good time to do so. There's a job to be done at Charlton, waiting for the right guy in the right place at the right time to make his mark. For someone with ability, character, self-belief and maybe a little bit of luck - all he will need is the opportunity.
If TW does as well as Mark Reid and Stuart Balmer, then he'll do for me. Tony Watt, Watt, Watt !!
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So far the noises are he is here he will be signing and we won't be paying his wages
What's to not like
Also remember an aggressive not so nice centre forward who did quite well here.
I see TW has also grown a beard. The omens are good I tell you.
If he is sold to us as the forward we have been promised since August but actually he is just a crap reserve with attitude problems,I would say we have been fed bullshit.I despair of this place sometimes.
It's a reallocation of resources within Staprix group, one that we as a fanbase need to get used to. But there is no obvious reason why it would mean any other transfers in January.
Im happy for him to come, hope he does well here, but lets not pretend this is something it's not.
...LOL
But if youre, say, the Logistics Manager of Topman and youre seconded to Selfridges by the head of Arcadia for 6 months then not really.
There are tax implications and FFP implications but it's not free. If it was Anderlecht paying his wages it might be free.
Checking him out on Wiki reveals that any alleged attitude problem is as much as anything to do with his erstwhile manager choosing to respond to the issue in public, not necessarily the best course of action when dealing with an unsettled 20 year old who is away from home. Hope it made his coach feel like a really big guy ....
TW turns 21 on Monday. He and his agent must realise that for his career to settle down and for him to make some real progress, now would be a very good time to do so. There's a job to be done at Charlton, waiting for the right guy in the right place at the right time to make his mark. For someone with ability, character, self-belief and maybe a little bit of luck - all he will need is the opportunity.
If TW does as well as Mark Reid and Stuart Balmer, then he'll do for me. Tony Watt, Watt, Watt !!