Tony Watt has not worked out at Standard Liege. Maybe a change of scenery will help. The Daily Express article is a bit worrying though, the number of managers who have said that he is not professional enough in his attitude. Maybe this is his chance to sort himself out and prove himself again.
I am happy to give him a chance. I just hope upon hope if this happens, is that RD is not going to have the chutzpah to pass off Tony Watt as Vetekele's strike partner we have been waiting for all season. Given what RD has attempted to pass off as acceptable so far, I am concerned.
TW is likely to be likely lacking fitness and if his confidence is not great, then trying to carrying that role is not going to put help him. It will put pressure and undermine his chance of success. Where if he is an addition to a quality striker and doesn't have that weight, he may be more likely to succeed. Most Charlton supporters will give him a chance, particularly if he puts the effort in. I will give Tony Watt the chance. Its a great chance for him to kick start his career lets hope he takes it.
This will be another standard Liege cast off dumped on us by R D. So far none of these have proved good enough for the championship football. roland trying to savce money on a lost cause.
The constant moaning about RD on here is incredible. Oh how I long for the days of TJ and MS and no decent players
What I dont get is why people have to look at the Standard Liege link when we sign a player... What if you put another spin on it and signed him before he went Liege it would be Tony Watt from Celtic and people would probably be banging on about the goal he scored v Barcelona, with YouTube clips a plenty.
Dont forget had we signed him direct for £1.3m that would have damaged our FFP and we'd have been limited in our squad building... We could now sign him like we did Reza on a Free Transfer and we'll get away with it
We obviously need to go back to the good old days of the Inter Milan link-up, their 'reserves / rejects' might be good enough for some people on here - except none of them wanted to come! I seem to remember one geezer even turned us down in favour of Ipswich!
I don't think it's about the network being fundamentally good or bad. It's about whether Tony Watt is the type of striker Bob seeks or not, and whether, if yes, Watt's attitude can be sorted out. The attitude problem goes back to his Celtic days, and was not rectified by Standard. That's why he has not been a success there and has usually been just a sub. I'm hoping for a success, but at this time I'm not expecting it
I don't think it's about the network being fundamentally good or bad. It's about whether Tony Watt is the type of striker Bob seeks or not, and whether, if yes, Watt's attitude can be sorted out. The attitude problem goes back to his Celtic days, and was not rectified by Standard. That's why he has not been a success there and has usually been just a sub. I'm hoping for a success, but at this time I'm not expecting it
He's also been in trouble due to his attitude with another Belgian club (on loan last season) too. So are we just hoping it's going to be fourth time lucky ?
I do not understand BP's need for a big man/little man strike partnership, Liverpool did not do too bad last season with Suarez and Sturridge, neither you would class as a big man.
I do not understand BP's need for a big man/little man strike partnership, Liverpool did not do too bad last season with Suarez and Sturridge, neither you would class as a big man.
That's true but don't forget Bob was himself a big target man and obviously sees the potential in that sort of attack?
Sort of player Curbs or CP may have taken a gamble on ... Talented with something to prove .. In the Marcus Bent mould.
Don't think Marcus Bent had much in the way of talent myself
I don't know, he knew how cut a deal for himself, fall out of favour by normally getting a mysterious pulled hammy after 20 mins and then moving on to the next big pay day. Got us a point on his debut at Chelski though against all odds when they were sweeping everyone aside especially at home that season. :-0
I do not understand BP's need for a big man/little man strike partnership, Liverpool did not do too bad last season with Suarez and Sturridge, neither you would class as a big man.
A quick Google says Suarez is 5 ft 11 and Sturridge between 6 ft and 6 ft 2. Not typical target men but at that level they have more than enough about them to make up for that. It's also less of an issue when they have team mates with more ability on the ball.
How many successful Championship sides play without some sort of physical presence and height up front? At the very least it's useful having that option in the squad.
I do not understand BP's need for a big man/little man strike partnership, Liverpool did not do too bad last season with Suarez and Sturridge, neither you would class as a big man.
A quick Google says Suarez is 5 ft 11 and Sturridge between 6 ft and 6 ft 2. Not typical target men but at that level they have more than enough about them to make up for that. It's also less of an issue when they have team mates with more ability on the ball.
How many successful Championship sides play without some sort of physical presence and height up front? At the very least it's useful having that option in the squad.
More to the point one is Luis Suarez, arguably the best striker in the world right now and the other is Sturridge who isn't too shabby.
Much harder to find Championship sides playing successfully with two smaller, Championship standard strikers.
I do not understand BP's need for a big man/little man strike partnership, Liverpool did not do too bad last season with Suarez and Sturridge, neither you would class as a big man.
Suarez is as strong as an ox and very difficult to shrug off the ball. On the other hand Vetokele and Harriott were constantly brushed aside by the Blackpool defenders and neither could make an impact. We certainly need a strong striker in order to get the best out of Igor.
it makes me laugh where some people get there info from why would we sign vetokele on a 5 year deal then swap him for a man who scored 1 goal against barcelona it all bollocks to me
it makes me laugh where some people get there info from why would we sign vetokele on a 5 year deal then swap him for a man who scored 1 goal against barcelona it all bollocks to me
No worries. I'd be rightly annoyed too if we swapped Igor for a potential trouble maker. On the face of it though, it seems like a risk free gamble for Charlton so I'm willing to back the incoming striker and hope he scores lots of goals.
Suarez is as strong as an ox and very difficult to shrug off the ball. On the other hand Vetokele and Harriott were constantly brushed aside by the Blackpool defenders and neither could make an impact. We certainly need a strong striker in order to get the best out of Igor.
He hardly needed pushing off the ball, he seemed to just let it roll past him most of the time!
Ings and Vokes best double act last season in champ. sam's 6.1 and danny's 5.10 Quinn and phillips back in the day. Noel 6.4 and kevin 5.7 the best example of big man little man in champ. Rhodes and Gestede at Blackburn, score plenty. 6.1 and 6.4, big man,and big man.
can't think of too many sides who have a pair of strikers who are under 5.10 and both score in championship ?
Even if Watt is a similar player to Igor he could still be a good signing. Looking at Igor he needs a decent rest and a player who can take the pressure off him. If we could drop Igor for a few games because Watt can fill his role then that would be a good signing. If Watt then scores a couple the pressure for Igor to drag us through games might come off and we could get the best out of both of them. You need a squad to get through any league and having a couple of similar players can be great for the team.
Sounds like an exciting signing to me, even if he comes with baggage. Young, quick and a good finisher. If he has any problems, he can always take them up with Big Bob.
While I hope we sign a striker who can hold the ball up, I'd still like us to take the opportunity to sign an exciting young goalscorer when we get the chance. I would have thought Watt and Veto would be a handful together.
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How many successful Championship sides play without some sort of physical presence and height up front? At the very least it's useful having that option in the squad.
Much harder to find Championship sides playing successfully with two smaller, Championship standard strikers.
Quinn and phillips back in the day. Noel 6.4 and kevin 5.7 the best example of big man little man in champ.
Rhodes and Gestede at Blackburn, score plenty. 6.1 and 6.4, big man,and big man.
can't think of too many sides who have a pair of strikers who are under 5.10 and both score in championship ?
(No, I don't have any insight into this potential transfer saga either!)
While I hope we sign a striker who can hold the ball up, I'd still like us to take the opportunity to sign an exciting young goalscorer when we get the chance. I would have thought Watt and Veto would be a handful together.