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  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    Why do people post such elaborate nonsense. I post rumours that I hear but I don't make up something like this. I don't understand what they get out of it.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    I have a friend who works for Molly Maids, who have been contacted by Foxtons working under instructions from the Ungeklart agency, who are apparently owned by Delorts father, to ask for a five year cleaning contract with special emphasis on the disposal of half consumed frogs legs.
    Interesting, very interesting...just look at his face, just look at his fAce.
  • uie2
    uie2 Posts: 4,596
    ValleyGary said:

    uie2 said:

    Delorts up his own arse!

    Is he? How you come to that??
    Apologies for that but he's seeming that type! Really don't know it maybe coz of Twitter or Facebook but for that we would have little knowage of this transfer rumour etc
  • Norfolk_Addick
    Norfolk_Addick Posts: 2,289
    dickplumb said:

    Why do people post such elaborate nonsense. I post rumours that I hear but I don't make up something like this. I don't understand what they get out of it.

    But if someone made up some nonsence and told you you would then post it because its what you heard. That's just how rumours get spread it doesn't mean the person who posted it made it up.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,242
    I heard Hotblack Desiato is signing for Charlton but wants to stay dead for a year for tax reasons
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,362
    edited August 2014
    Henry Irving said:

    I heard Hotblack Desiato is signing for Charlton but wants to stay dead for a year for tax reasons

    We should know about this one by the end of the week then. But I understand Francis Chappell & Sons have been instructed to look for a plot for him not 5 miles from the training ground...
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,438
    Aye, and we're in the market for Wowbagger the infinitely prolonged as our midfield agitator...
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,987
    uie2 said:

    ValleyGary said:

    uie2 said:

    Delorts up his own arse!

    Is he? How you come to that??
    Apologies for that but he's seeming that type! Really don't know it maybe coz of Twitter or Facebook but for that we would have little knowage of this transfer rumour etc
    No need to apologise you're entitled to an opinion, I just don't think the bloke trying to get the best deal for himself makes him any different to any other person joining a new firm. I do think he should have kept all his movements a bit more private though.
  • stop_shouting
    stop_shouting Posts: 3,680
    PragueAddick said:

    Not directly relevant to Delort but a hilarious example of how we allow ourselves to get carried away by crap on the internet. Below is a mail posted on the Mailing List by colin1961 (although he is just reposting from ITTV) and the response to it



    On 24 Aug 2014, at 13:00, xxxx wrote:

    Forget Andy D interesting post from ITTV
    It's understood Cafc have offered €2.45mil for
    Bahebeck
    His agents ungeklart have requested foxtons to find properties in a location of no more than 5miles from
    New Eltham for rental
    Before you ask my sons wife is a relocation agent in black heath for another agent.
    He has not signed as yet he's due in London early next

    There is one problem with that story

    The guy who wrote it (not Colin) appears to be claiming that an agent called Ungeklart representing Bahebeck contacted Foxton.

    It is true that if you look up Transfermarkt which gives the names of agents of players he appears to be represented by an agency called “UNGEKLÄRT”

    Unfortunately, this is simply the German word meaning “unknown” which is why Bahebeck would appear to share the same agent as Cavani, Hazard, Toure, Sterling, and literally hundreds of other players.

    So a little bit of scepticism might be in order.

    Did you hear Charlton are going back to the Valley Colin?
  • charente addick
    charente addick Posts: 3,810
    Look forward to another dad and son selfie later while they're tucking into breaded mushrooms and a steak and ale pie at the Manchester Hilton with a copy of 'What's on in Wigan' on the corner of the table.

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  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,004
    charente addick said:

    Look forward to another dad and son selfie later while they're tucking into breaded mushrooms and a steak and ale pie at the Manchester Hilton with a copy of 'What's on in Wigan' on the corner of the table.

    Someone said they were also going to Wolves, have they been? Lets hope this is sorted once and for all tomorrow!
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,602
    East_Stand_Loopy said:

    So, let's get this right...

    (No criticism of what anybody has been saying on here!)

    We are his preferred choice, but he is talking to other clubs.

    So, if one of the other clubs offer him a better deal, he will come to us if we're prepared to match that offer.

    In other words, we are not his preferred choice it is Mammon...

    As I understand it WE are his preferred Club and have agreed terms with him BUT until we agree terms with FC Tours it means eff all and if in the meantime any other Club agrees terms with FC Tours and are then free to talk to him we could miss out.

    What I don't understand is that why did FC Tours give us permission to speak to him when we were miles apart on a fee? It happens a lot that players speak to clubs before a fee is agreed but it is normally when an agreement is very close and it's just sorting add ons or payment details etc etc. We were miles apart so looks like Tours allowed it to try and get an auction going.

  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,004
    LargeAddick said:

    East_Stand_Loopy said:

    So, let's get this right...

    (No criticism of what anybody has been saying on here!)

    We are his preferred choice, but he is talking to other clubs.

    So, if one of the other clubs offer him a better deal, he will come to us if we're prepared to match that offer.

    In other words, we are not his preferred choice it is Mammon...

    As I understand it WE are his preferred Club and have agreed terms with him BUT until we agree terms with FC Tours it means eff all and if in the meantime any other Club agrees terms with FC Tours and are then free to talk to him we could miss out.

    What I don't understand is that why did FC Tours give us permission to speak to him when we were miles apart on a fee? It happens a lot that players speak to clubs before a fee is agreed but it is normally when an agreement is very close and it's just sorting add ons or payment details etc etc. We were miles apart so looks like Tours allowed it to try and get an auction going.

    Yep, sounds like an auction situation that seems to have backfired a little bit on Tours. Either their gamesmanship has put others off or Delort isn't that highly rated but as far as I can tell for the vast majority of the time since we agreed terms with Tours no other team has actually come in with an offer Tours and/or Delort likes. It's a bit of a cluster**** really.
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,004
    thenewbie said:

    LargeAddick said:

    East_Stand_Loopy said:

    So, let's get this right...

    (No criticism of what anybody has been saying on here!)

    We are his preferred choice, but he is talking to other clubs.

    So, if one of the other clubs offer him a better deal, he will come to us if we're prepared to match that offer.

    In other words, we are not his preferred choice it is Mammon...

    As I understand it WE are his preferred Club and have agreed terms with him BUT until we agree terms with FC Tours it means eff all and if in the meantime any other Club agrees terms with FC Tours and are then free to talk to him we could miss out.

    What I don't understand is that why did FC Tours give us permission to speak to him when we were miles apart on a fee? It happens a lot that players speak to clubs before a fee is agreed but it is normally when an agreement is very close and it's just sorting add ons or payment details etc etc. We were miles apart so looks like Tours allowed it to try and get an auction going.

    Yep, sounds like an auction situation that seems to have backfired a little bit on Tours. Either their gamesmanship has put others off or Delort isn't that highly rated but as far as I can tell for the vast majority of the time since we agreed terms with Tours no other team has actually come in with an offer Tours and/or Delort likes. It's a bit of a cluster**** really.
    If no other club has agreed with Tours, why is he visiting Wigan and Wolves.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,794
    I believe we have now agreed a fee with Tours but the agreement with Delort was only a verbal one so he's assessing the other options before putting pen to paper?

    That's how I understand it.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,004
    ross1 said:

    thenewbie said:

    LargeAddick said:

    East_Stand_Loopy said:

    So, let's get this right...

    (No criticism of what anybody has been saying on here!)

    We are his preferred choice, but he is talking to other clubs.

    So, if one of the other clubs offer him a better deal, he will come to us if we're prepared to match that offer.

    In other words, we are not his preferred choice it is Mammon...

    As I understand it WE are his preferred Club and have agreed terms with him BUT until we agree terms with FC Tours it means eff all and if in the meantime any other Club agrees terms with FC Tours and are then free to talk to him we could miss out.

    What I don't understand is that why did FC Tours give us permission to speak to him when we were miles apart on a fee? It happens a lot that players speak to clubs before a fee is agreed but it is normally when an agreement is very close and it's just sorting add ons or payment details etc etc. We were miles apart so looks like Tours allowed it to try and get an auction going.

    Yep, sounds like an auction situation that seems to have backfired a little bit on Tours. Either their gamesmanship has put others off or Delort isn't that highly rated but as far as I can tell for the vast majority of the time since we agreed terms with Tours no other team has actually come in with an offer Tours and/or Delort likes. It's a bit of a cluster**** really.
    If no other club has agreed with Tours, why is he visiting Wigan and Wolves.
    Yes, but he's apparently been 'visiting' around a dozen clubs in different countries by now, it means nothing. Only Charlton have agreed terms with Delort himself.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,021
    edited August 2014
    My opinion. Delort wanted to sign for Charlton, on the options he had before today.
    However, wages are usually the deciding factor. So even though Kermy "wanted to sign a new deal with Charlton", he actually chose to sign for Bournemouth.
    Now Wigan & Wolves have come in. Tours obviously want to sell him for as much as possible.
    So both Tours and Delort want to listen to them.
    If having seen other clubs (encouraged by Tours), Delort still wants to sign for Charlton, it could go to the wire (if another club has offered a bigger fee).
    If Wigan or Wolves offer a bigger transfer fee & bigger wages, then he'll surely be going to one of them.
  • Harry Gregory
    Harry Gregory Posts: 869
    London for a 23 year -old is still a huge pull even if the wages are less
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,004
    Harry Gregory said:

    London for a 23 year -old is still a huge pull even if the wages are less

    Don't you believe it, if offered more money guarantee he will take it, no matter who
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,369
    He'll go where the money is, the hype has died down a bit for me, too much speculation and people talking out their arse. If we did manage to sign him I would still be happy though.

    If someone pays 4 mill for him good luck, can't see him being better value than Igor.

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  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,655
    Just came back from Bluewater, bumped Into Andy Delorts dad in the underwear department at M & S , asked him about the impending transfer, he said it was pants.
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,161
    thenewbie said:

    ross1 said:

    thenewbie said:

    LargeAddick said:

    East_Stand_Loopy said:

    So, let's get this right...

    (No criticism of what anybody has been saying on here!)

    We are his preferred choice, but he is talking to other clubs.

    So, if one of the other clubs offer him a better deal, he will come to us if we're prepared to match that offer.

    In other words, we are not his preferred choice it is Mammon...

    As I understand it WE are his preferred Club and have agreed terms with him BUT until we agree terms with FC Tours it means eff all and if in the meantime any other Club agrees terms with FC Tours and are then free to talk to him we could miss out.

    What I don't understand is that why did FC Tours give us permission to speak to him when we were miles apart on a fee? It happens a lot that players speak to clubs before a fee is agreed but it is normally when an agreement is very close and it's just sorting add ons or payment details etc etc. We were miles apart so looks like Tours allowed it to try and get an auction going.

    Yep, sounds like an auction situation that seems to have backfired a little bit on Tours. Either their gamesmanship has put others off or Delort isn't that highly rated but as far as I can tell for the vast majority of the time since we agreed terms with Tours no other team has actually come in with an offer Tours and/or Delort likes. It's a bit of a cluster**** really.

    If no other club has agreed with Tours, why is he visiting Wigan and Wolves.
    Yes, but he's apparently been 'visiting' around a dozen clubs in different countries by now, it means nothing. Only Charlton have agreed terms with Delort himself.
    May I ask your source for that? If it turns out to be "colin1961", then it might as well be ungeklart :-)

    seriously, I don't think any official club source has said this, have they?
  • Fortune 82nd Minute
    Fortune 82nd Minute Posts: 8,359
    I work with 2 Brentford supporters and one told me that when Delort rocked up at Brentford to discuss a move he was accompanied by 6 agents, all wanting paying for their part in his move. He said Brentford took one look at the situation and said no.

    Don't shoot the messenger - just what I was told and could be complete nonsense (although guy who told me is not in the habit of making things up).
  • vff
    vff Posts: 6,882
    It looks like Andy Delort will play for who pays him the most cash. Typical footballer then. Tours trying to squeeze as much transfer fee as they can. Typical football club.
    Mendonca In Asdas said:

    Just came back from Bluewater, bumped Into Andy Delorts dad in the underwear department at M & S , asked him about the impending transfer, he said it was pants.

    Quality pants at that.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,004
    PragueAddick said:

    thenewbie said:

    ross1 said:

    thenewbie said:

    LargeAddick said:

    East_Stand_Loopy said:

    So, let's get this right...

    (No criticism of what anybody has been saying on here!)

    We are his preferred choice, but he is talking to other clubs.

    So, if one of the other clubs offer him a better deal, he will come to us if we're prepared to match that offer.

    In other words, we are not his preferred choice it is Mammon...

    As I understand it WE are his preferred Club and have agreed terms with him BUT until we agree terms with FC Tours it means eff all and if in the meantime any other Club agrees terms with FC Tours and are then free to talk to him we could miss out.

    What I don't understand is that why did FC Tours give us permission to speak to him when we were miles apart on a fee? It happens a lot that players speak to clubs before a fee is agreed but it is normally when an agreement is very close and it's just sorting add ons or payment details etc etc. We were miles apart so looks like Tours allowed it to try and get an auction going.

    Yep, sounds like an auction situation that seems to have backfired a little bit on Tours. Either their gamesmanship has put others off or Delort isn't that highly rated but as far as I can tell for the vast majority of the time since we agreed terms with Tours no other team has actually come in with an offer Tours and/or Delort likes. It's a bit of a cluster**** really.

    If no other club has agreed with Tours, why is he visiting Wigan and Wolves.
    Yes, but he's apparently been 'visiting' around a dozen clubs in different countries by now, it means nothing. Only Charlton have agreed terms with Delort himself.
    May I ask your source for that? If it turns out to be "colin1961", then it might as well be ungeklart :-)

    seriously, I don't think any official club source has said this, have they?
    I seem to recall Big Bob doing a 'House Of Cards' when questioned as to whether he/the club was in negotiations for Delort a while ago. There was no official statement but he did seem to be hinting that we were - then again this whole sodding thing has dragged on for so long I may well be misremembering or just making shit up without eve knowing...
  • Bolderhumphreyreid
    Bolderhumphreyreid Posts: 2,555
    Am I the only one thinking I really couldn't care how much we pay for him or any other player?

    If Bob wants him and Roly pays top whack then as long as we get him I couldn't care if we paid £10m for him. It's Roly's money and I'm sure he's not frivolous with it.

    In days gone by it felt like 'Charlton' money, now it feels like the 'networks' money so if we don't get it another team will.

    Selfish? Yes but I can't help feeling this way.
  • cafc_harry
    cafc_harry Posts: 3,360
    Fortune 82nd Minute said:

    I work with 2 Brentford supporters and one told me that when Delort rocked up at Brentford to discuss a move he was accompanied by 6 agents, all wanting paying for their part in his move. He said Brentford took one look at the situation and said no.

    Don't shoot the messenger - just what I was told and could be complete nonsense (although guy who told me is not in the habit of making things up).

    Definitely bollox, he was in Manchester today, and probably went from there to Wigan.
  • cafc_harry
    cafc_harry Posts: 3,360
    cafc_harry said:

    Fortune 82nd Minute said:

    I work with 2 Brentford supporters and one told me that when Delort rocked up at Brentford to discuss a move he was accompanied by 6 agents, all wanting paying for their part in his move. He said Brentford took one look at the situation and said no.

    Don't shoot the messenger - just what I was told and could be complete nonsense (although guy who told me is not in the habit of making things up).

    Definitely bollox, he was in Manchester today, and probably went from there to Wigan.
    Obviously not having a go at you, just saying he was making it up.
  • buckshee
    buckshee Posts: 7,868
    cafc_harry said:

    Fortune 82nd Minute said:

    I work with 2 Brentford supporters and one told me that when Delort rocked up at Brentford to discuss a move he was accompanied by 6 agents, all wanting paying for their part in his move. He said Brentford took one look at the situation and said no.

    Don't shoot the messenger - just what I was told and could be complete nonsense (although guy who told me is not in the habit of making things up).

    Definitely bollox, he was in Manchester today, and probably went from there to Wigan.
    Why's it "bollox"?

    He met with Brentford weeks ago , he didn't say it was today.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,038
    PragueAddick said:

    ...Unfortunately, this is simply the German word meaning “unknown” which is why Bahebeck would appear to share the same agent as Cavani, Hazard, Toure, Sterling, and literally hundreds of other players.

    So a little bit of scepticism might be in order.

    Alles klar, Justin ;-)

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