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  • "Some of us are old enough to remember when the Tories didn't quite manage them as well too..."

    Pmsl
  • oi SHG that was my job to slag off that shit rag

    Don't worry yet robb if they do let 16yr Olds vote you can bet the boys voting won't let it be banned
  • Another thing that has not been mentioned much is Interest rates.

    Like them or not, the Tories have managed an economy that has kept them rock bottom.

    Anyone willing to wager where they will be should Ed balls get his hands on the cookie jar lid?

    But I suppose we should all share any tiny bit of wealth we've got. More fool me for getting a mortgage!

    I don think the Tories can claim credit for low rates (even though they will) - the global economy is recovering at snail's pace from a debt bubble and in my view rates could stay where they are for years to come.

    Rates have plummeted across the developed world on the back of QE, low inflation, weak wage pressure etc. Even leftist France is paying rock bottom interest and their economy is in perilous shape.
  • Fiiish said:

    Chizz said:

    So, Thursday morning, read this. Obviously, don't slavishly follow it, because no-one should tell you whom to vote for. But read it anyway, before popping to the polling station.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/vote-tory-and-youre-voting-for-the-rich-to-get-richer-and-the-poor-to-get-poorer-10230342.html

    I think that's one of the poorest pieces of "journalism" I've read this campaign and considering I've read an Owen Jones piece that's saying something.

    Same old boring anti-Tory tropes that simply aren't true. We're on polling day and one of Britain's lefties papers can't even present an actual real reason to vote against the Tories. Considering Labour have sold out the true left in this country, I could forgive papers for being so desperate but it's frankly pathetic where the left-wing movement currently stands considering how influential it was for most of the 20th century. If we want a real opposition in this country to neo-liberalism, we need to stop supporting a left-wing stuck in the 1970s and look at the modern left in Europe who are able to deliver competent socially-aware policies without the economic vandalism that used to accompany 1970s socialism.
    Poorest pieces of journalism !!!!!!

    You did see the front page of The Sun yesterday. Nothing could be more pathetic than that right wing piece of shit.

    You are as usual myopic to the point of humour.

    Is the Sun now right wing? I gave up reading it when it was supporting Blair!

  • edited May 2015
    brogib said:

    "Some of us are old enough to remember when the Tories didn't quite manage them as well too..."

    Pmsl

    Glad to have amused you fella. As someone who had to buy himself out of negative equity back in the day and facing interest rates of 15% I don't really find it that funny tbh but each to their own.
  • brogib said:

    "Some of us are old enough to remember when the Tories didn't quite manage them as well too..."

    Pmsl

    Glad to have amused you fella. As someone who had to buy himself out of negative equity back in the day and facing interest rates of 15% I don't really find it that funny tbh be each to their own.
    Yeah, it weren't just you either, but I weren't laughing at that as you well know. Cheers for twisting and adding to your point though

    What I thought was funny was you bringing up something from yesteryear as an answer to what could be happening now.
  • I have voted. I get the feeling I'll be doing a lot of that over the next couple of years.
  • brogib said:

    "Some of us are old enough to remember when the Tories didn't quite manage them as well too..."

    Pmsl

    Glad to have amused you fella. As someone who had to buy himself out of negative equity back in the day and facing interest rates of 15% I don't really find it that funny tbh be each to their own.
    They were only at 15% for a day
  • Fiiish said:

    Chizz said:

    So, Thursday morning, read this. Obviously, don't slavishly follow it, because no-one should tell you whom to vote for. But read it anyway, before popping to the polling station.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/vote-tory-and-youre-voting-for-the-rich-to-get-richer-and-the-poor-to-get-poorer-10230342.html

    I think that's one of the poorest pieces of "journalism" I've read this campaign and considering I've read an Owen Jones piece that's saying something.

    Same old boring anti-Tory tropes that simply aren't true. We're on polling day and one of Britain's lefties papers can't even present an actual real reason to vote against the Tories. Considering Labour have sold out the true left in this country, I could forgive papers for being so desperate but it's frankly pathetic where the left-wing movement currently stands considering how influential it was for most of the 20th century. If we want a real opposition in this country to neo-liberalism, we need to stop supporting a left-wing stuck in the 1970s and look at the modern left in Europe who are able to deliver competent socially-aware policies without the economic vandalism that used to accompany 1970s socialism.
    Poorest pieces of journalism !!!!!!

    You did see the front page of The Sun yesterday. Nothing could be more pathetic than that right wing piece of shit.

    You are as usual myopic to the point of humour.

    Is the Sun now right wing? I gave up reading it when it was supporting Blair!

    Well it's supporting the Conservatives. That right wing enough for you ?

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  • What are the definition of right wing and left wing

  • Fiiish said:

    Chizz said:

    So, Thursday morning, read this. Obviously, don't slavishly follow it, because no-one should tell you whom to vote for. But read it anyway, before popping to the polling station.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/vote-tory-and-youre-voting-for-the-rich-to-get-richer-and-the-poor-to-get-poorer-10230342.html

    I think that's one of the poorest pieces of "journalism" I've read this campaign and considering I've read an Owen Jones piece that's saying something.

    Same old boring anti-Tory tropes that simply aren't true. We're on polling day and one of Britain's lefties papers can't even present an actual real reason to vote against the Tories. Considering Labour have sold out the true left in this country, I could forgive papers for being so desperate but it's frankly pathetic where the left-wing movement currently stands considering how influential it was for most of the 20th century. If we want a real opposition in this country to neo-liberalism, we need to stop supporting a left-wing stuck in the 1970s and look at the modern left in Europe who are able to deliver competent socially-aware policies without the economic vandalism that used to accompany 1970s socialism.
    Poorest pieces of journalism !!!!!!

    You did see the front page of The Sun yesterday. Nothing could be more pathetic than that right wing piece of shit.

    You are as usual myopic to the point of humour.

    Is the Sun now right wing? I gave up reading it when it was supporting Blair!

    The Sun supports whoever will be of most use to Rupert Murdoch. Currently, that's the Tories.

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2011/jul/16/rupert-murdoch-ed-miliband-phone-hacking

    No wonder he doesn't want Miliband as PM, right?
  • Christ, it's like a Primary School Sports day on here.
  • edited May 2015

    What are the definition of right wing and left wing

    It goes back to the French Revolution

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left–right_politics
  • Fiiish said:

    Chizz said:

    So, Thursday morning, read this. Obviously, don't slavishly follow it, because no-one should tell you whom to vote for. But read it anyway, before popping to the polling station.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/vote-tory-and-youre-voting-for-the-rich-to-get-richer-and-the-poor-to-get-poorer-10230342.html

    I think that's one of the poorest pieces of "journalism" I've read this campaign and considering I've read an Owen Jones piece that's saying something.

    Same old boring anti-Tory tropes that simply aren't true. We're on polling day and one of Britain's lefties papers can't even present an actual real reason to vote against the Tories. Considering Labour have sold out the true left in this country, I could forgive papers for being so desperate but it's frankly pathetic where the left-wing movement currently stands considering how influential it was for most of the 20th century. If we want a real opposition in this country to neo-liberalism, we need to stop supporting a left-wing stuck in the 1970s and look at the modern left in Europe who are able to deliver competent socially-aware policies without the economic vandalism that used to accompany 1970s socialism.
    Poorest pieces of journalism !!!!!!

    You did see the front page of The Sun yesterday. Nothing could be more pathetic than that right wing piece of shit.

    You are as usual myopic to the point of humour.

    Is the Sun now right wing? I gave up reading it when it was supporting Blair!

    Well it's supporting the Conservatives. That right wing enough for you ?

    I thought that The Sun backed whoever it thought was gonna win
  • edited May 2015
    Blair started the Iraq war in 2003 with the attention of taking resources in partnership with Murdoch.

    Cameron tried to do the same in Syria but was blocked by Miliband and Labour in a vote last year. Denying Murdoch the chance to make any money out of exploiting the resources there.
  • brogib said:

    Fiiish said:

    Chizz said:

    So, Thursday morning, read this. Obviously, don't slavishly follow it, because no-one should tell you whom to vote for. But read it anyway, before popping to the polling station.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/vote-tory-and-youre-voting-for-the-rich-to-get-richer-and-the-poor-to-get-poorer-10230342.html

    I think that's one of the poorest pieces of "journalism" I've read this campaign and considering I've read an Owen Jones piece that's saying something.

    Same old boring anti-Tory tropes that simply aren't true. We're on polling day and one of Britain's lefties papers can't even present an actual real reason to vote against the Tories. Considering Labour have sold out the true left in this country, I could forgive papers for being so desperate but it's frankly pathetic where the left-wing movement currently stands considering how influential it was for most of the 20th century. If we want a real opposition in this country to neo-liberalism, we need to stop supporting a left-wing stuck in the 1970s and look at the modern left in Europe who are able to deliver competent socially-aware policies without the economic vandalism that used to accompany 1970s socialism.
    Poorest pieces of journalism !!!!!!

    You did see the front page of The Sun yesterday. Nothing could be more pathetic than that right wing piece of shit.

    You are as usual myopic to the point of humour.

    Is the Sun now right wing? I gave up reading it when it was supporting Blair!

    Well it's supporting the Conservatives. That right wing enough for you ?

    I thought that The Sun backed whoever it thought was gonna win
    The Sun is (usually) the reason why people win. Their influence is huge but is being broken down this year through the advent of social media politics.
  • brogib said:

    What about page 3 though

    Shouldn't exist. No need to pass a law though, just stop buying the bloody sh*t rag and maybe they'd start being a decent newspaper...
    Only joking mate, I stopped buy that paper when they stopped page 7 fella
  • Blair started the Iraq war in 2003 with the attention of taking resources in partnership with Murdoch.

    Cameron tried to do the same in Syria but was blocked by Miliband and Labour in a vote last year. Denying Murdoch the chance to make any money out of exploiting the resources there.

    I'm sorry, what? Two Prime Ministers commenced armed conflict so they could take 'resources' with a media baron?
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  • brogib said:

    Fiiish said:

    Chizz said:

    So, Thursday morning, read this. Obviously, don't slavishly follow it, because no-one should tell you whom to vote for. But read it anyway, before popping to the polling station.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/vote-tory-and-youre-voting-for-the-rich-to-get-richer-and-the-poor-to-get-poorer-10230342.html

    I think that's one of the poorest pieces of "journalism" I've read this campaign and considering I've read an Owen Jones piece that's saying something.

    Same old boring anti-Tory tropes that simply aren't true. We're on polling day and one of Britain's lefties papers can't even present an actual real reason to vote against the Tories. Considering Labour have sold out the true left in this country, I could forgive papers for being so desperate but it's frankly pathetic where the left-wing movement currently stands considering how influential it was for most of the 20th century. If we want a real opposition in this country to neo-liberalism, we need to stop supporting a left-wing stuck in the 1970s and look at the modern left in Europe who are able to deliver competent socially-aware policies without the economic vandalism that used to accompany 1970s socialism.
    Poorest pieces of journalism !!!!!!

    You did see the front page of The Sun yesterday. Nothing could be more pathetic than that right wing piece of shit.

    You are as usual myopic to the point of humour.

    Is the Sun now right wing? I gave up reading it when it was supporting Blair!

    Well it's supporting the Conservatives. That right wing enough for you ?

    I thought that The Sun backed whoever it thought was gonna win
    The Sun is (usually) the reason why people win. Their influence is huge but is being broken down this year through the advent of social media politics.


    No way is that true, it's influence is down because it hurt innocent families who lost their children, meaning folks like me and many others like me refuse to acknowledge it's existence, it is banned in my lorries, it is banned in my vans, it is banned in my home, my office, my warehouse
    And I genuinely think I would tell anyone who bought it whilst working for me will face the chop if they do it again.
  • What are the definition of right wing and left wing

    Right wing is where Gudmonsson starts the game.

    Left wing is where Gudmonsson moves to when we are 2-0 down.
    The former is definitely far preferable.

  • They haven't shown tits on page three for ages now.

    And if people really are that influenced by what party a paper supports then the country gets the government they deserve.
  • Sorry beds too early for such bright colors with a cider still pissed hangover

    Your right to support the party is one thing but burning my eyes before 9 is abuse and needed to be flagged as such
  • Stop now cal let's not be silly
  • edited May 2015

    brogib said:

    Fiiish said:

    Chizz said:

    So, Thursday morning, read this. Obviously, don't slavishly follow it, because no-one should tell you whom to vote for. But read it anyway, before popping to the polling station.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/vote-tory-and-youre-voting-for-the-rich-to-get-richer-and-the-poor-to-get-poorer-10230342.html

    I think that's one of the poorest pieces of "journalism" I've read this campaign and considering I've read an Owen Jones piece that's saying something.

    Same old boring anti-Tory tropes that simply aren't true. We're on polling day and one of Britain's lefties papers can't even present an actual real reason to vote against the Tories. Considering Labour have sold out the true left in this country, I could forgive papers for being so desperate but it's frankly pathetic where the left-wing movement currently stands considering how influential it was for most of the 20th century. If we want a real opposition in this country to neo-liberalism, we need to stop supporting a left-wing stuck in the 1970s and look at the modern left in Europe who are able to deliver competent socially-aware policies without the economic vandalism that used to accompany 1970s socialism.
    Poorest pieces of journalism !!!!!!

    You did see the front page of The Sun yesterday. Nothing could be more pathetic than that right wing piece of shit.

    You are as usual myopic to the point of humour.

    Is the Sun now right wing? I gave up reading it when it was supporting Blair!

    Well it's supporting the Conservatives. That right wing enough for you ?

    I thought that The Sun backed whoever it thought was gonna win
    The Sun is (usually) the reason why people win. Their influence is huge but is being broken down this year through the advent of social media politics.


    No way is that true, it's influence is down because it hurt innocent families who lost their children, meaning folks like me and many others like me refuse to acknowledge it's existence, it is banned in my lorries, it is banned in my vans, it is banned in my home, my office, my warehouse
    And I genuinely think I would tell anyone who bought it whilst working for me will face the chop if they do it again.
    You have a good point but I think they've come around at about the same time.

    The younger generation are increasingly media savvy and don't take everything the newspapers say as gospel.
  • brogib said:

    Fiiish said:

    Chizz said:

    So, Thursday morning, read this. Obviously, don't slavishly follow it, because no-one should tell you whom to vote for. But read it anyway, before popping to the polling station.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/vote-tory-and-youre-voting-for-the-rich-to-get-richer-and-the-poor-to-get-poorer-10230342.html

    I think that's one of the poorest pieces of "journalism" I've read this campaign and considering I've read an Owen Jones piece that's saying something.

    Same old boring anti-Tory tropes that simply aren't true. We're on polling day and one of Britain's lefties papers can't even present an actual real reason to vote against the Tories. Considering Labour have sold out the true left in this country, I could forgive papers for being so desperate but it's frankly pathetic where the left-wing movement currently stands considering how influential it was for most of the 20th century. If we want a real opposition in this country to neo-liberalism, we need to stop supporting a left-wing stuck in the 1970s and look at the modern left in Europe who are able to deliver competent socially-aware policies without the economic vandalism that used to accompany 1970s socialism.
    Poorest pieces of journalism !!!!!!

    You did see the front page of The Sun yesterday. Nothing could be more pathetic than that right wing piece of shit.

    You are as usual myopic to the point of humour.

    Is the Sun now right wing? I gave up reading it when it was supporting Blair!

    Well it's supporting the Conservatives. That right wing enough for you ?

    I thought that The Sun backed whoever it thought was gonna win
    The Sun is (usually) the reason why people win. Their influence is huge but is being broken down this year through the advent of social media politics.


    No way is that true, it's influence is down because it hurt innocent families who lost their children, meaning folks like me and many others like me refuse to acknowledge it's existence, it is banned in my lorries, it is banned in my vans, it is banned in my home, my office, my warehouse
    And I genuinely think I would tell anyone who bought it whilst working for me will face the chop if they do it again.
    Jeez, I'm no fan of the sun but that's a depressing story. What next for you? Checking what books they get out of the library to make sure they meet your arbitary exacting standards? Shooting them if they draw a cartoon of some ancient religious figure? Destroying ancient artifacts?
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