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Johnnie Jackson

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  • Legend ? Yes I think he probably gets that status. Since he joined I think he has often been the only glue holding the club together. Seems that burden is fortunately now lifting but he has been a remarkable player for us and not only on the pitch. I hope that the management can see his worth and slowly blend him into the fabric of the club now that his playing days are becoming less influential.
  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,410
    There were only 2 highlights to the Parky era;

    Signing JJ

    The old guy who walked out of the West stand onto the pitch and gave PP a bollocking in the 4-0 defeat to Brighton.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,021
    se9addick said:

    Future hall of famer...

    I think this is a very good shout. The current modern-era famers, Mendonca, Rufus, Powell and Kinsella all played in decent Charlton sides. Jackson has arguably had things tougher playing alongside some of the poorest Charlton players in living memory and yet he's still made a mark. He'd get my vote.
  • dizzee
    dizzee Posts: 5,616
    Legend no doubt.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    The best Captain by far since I've been watching, for his dedication to the club and the efforts he'd made behind the scene to keep the club stable during a very unstable period.
    How many club captains anywhere in the country over the last few years have done the work he's done behind the scenes?
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    edited August 2015
    Well deserved. I hope he achieves 50 goals too.

    He certainly merits it. A credit to himself and the Club.
  • Best skipper since Mark Kinsella. A true CAFC legend.
  • Lets not get carried away here


    I am a big Jonny Jackson family and supporter, he is what every club need a leader of men, someone who leads by example and is a steady 7 out of 10 across the season when selected

    He is a proper professional footballer in every inch of the word, he is Mr charlton right now and I hope he stays with us until the end of his career he deserves to be settled and given a contract whenever negs are due

    But he ain't a legend, if you start calling every good servant and solid player a legend then the whole turn of phrase is devalued

  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,907
    Absolute legend in soo many ways! Still more than capable of starting in CM for us! I think as the season goes on we will see more and more of him! Guy likes to rotate and with injuries and suspensions (I suspect Kashi may get a few) he has a key role to play! And towards the end of the season whichever end of the table we are at his experience will be key in that final push!

    Glad he's in the 200 club! Needs to get 4 more goals for us! 3 to reach 50 and 1 to cancel out the one he scored against us in the prem!
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651

    Lets not get carried away here


    I am a big Jonny Jackson family and supporter, he is what every club need a leader of men, someone who leads by example and is a steady 7 out of 10 across the season when selected

    He is a proper professional footballer in every inch of the word, he is Mr charlton right now and I hope he stays with us until the end of his career he deserves to be settled and given a contract whenever negs are due

    But he ain't a legend, if you start calling every good servant and solid player a legend then the whole turn of phrase is devalued

    How many members of the 'Charlton 200 club' have played through as many managerial changes as Jacko? How many first team or club captains similarly?

    I agree with you in principle re the indiscriminate use of the word 'legend.'

    JJ, as I've tried to explain above, fully merits the word though.
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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842

    Lets not get carried away here


    I am a big Jonny Jackson family and supporter, he is what every club need a leader of men, someone who leads by example and is a steady 7 out of 10 across the season when selected

    He is a proper professional footballer in every inch of the word, he is Mr charlton right now and I hope he stays with us until the end of his career he deserves to be settled and given a contract whenever negs are due

    But he ain't a legend, if you start calling every good servant and solid player a legend then the whole turn of phrase is devalued

    200 games and 47 goals from midfield are a good start, but it's his dedication to the club off the field which really shines, like the time he got the players together at the shambolic start of the Luzon era and helped turn things around when we could easily have plummeted to relegation.

    Gritty helped clear the weeds from the Valley, I'm sure Jacko would have done the same
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,907
    That last min winner against QPR! When he took down Sheffield single handed! When he lifted the league one trophy! That speech at the end of the season after Powell was sake! The passion he shows and love for the club is clear!

    Proper Charlton! Legend!

    End of
  • Welsh / Kinsella / Jackson.

    Only three Captains for Charlton to have lifted existing silverware for the club... Definitely puts him in the legend status
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    came on for a few minutes yesterday .. a real Mr Cool when we're under pressure ((:>)
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    I can see a League One club offering him the manager's job within a year or two, and Charlton would probably do well to not stand in his way. He's a great man and I'm certain he will be a very fine manager.
  • Leuth said:

    I can see a League One club offering him the manager's job within a year or two, and Charlton would probably do well to not stand in his way. He's a great man and I'm certain he will be a very fine manager.

    Reckon he'd form a good Management team with Andy Hughes with one as the Assistant.

    A League One / Two team having to rely on Youth could do a lot worse than those two
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,934
    Not sure whether I would call him a legend or a cult hero. Jacko is one of those players who had had a massive effect all round the club, but in years to come, what players will I tell my grandkids about from my armchair......Jensen 'wow, you should have seen him when he was on song'.........Kermorgant 'never seen a better player in the air - and a free kick 25 yards out was as good as a penalty'.......Mendonca 'one of the best hat tricks you would ever see - a brilliant display of control and finishing'.

    Jacko has great stats, but I am struggling to see how i would excite someone who has never seen him play. It is more the overall effect and personality of the man and for that I think he is a bit of a cult hero. Roy of the Rovers type if you like.
  • Sure I remember reading about him buying all the fans a bevvy on the way home from some third division outpost on the train home, legend for that, plus, I've had a quick couple of chats with him, comes across as a top bloke
  • Johnnies been with us through bad times and good times, I would love for him to be still with the club when we finally get back to the premier league.
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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    When he singlehandedly sunk both Sheffield clubs two weekends in a row.

    After those two 1-0 wins I was convinced we were league champions in waiting.
  • C_A_F_C
    C_A_F_C Posts: 3,866
    Great post Len, although the QPR game was Powells last at The Valley.

    If you look not that many players have reached 200 apps for us especially over the last few decades and no player has scored as many goals as Jacko in a Charlton shirt since Carl Leaburn.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    And he will always be a legend for having a song that had no relation to his role for his team. :-)
  • C_A_F_C
    C_A_F_C Posts: 3,866
    He captained a double winning side The People's Cup and League One.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    edited August 2015

    Not sure whether I would call him a legend or a cult hero. Jacko is one of those players who had had a massive effect all round the club, but in years to come, what players will I tell my grandkids about from my armchair......Jensen 'wow, you should have seen him when he was on song'.........Kermorgant 'never seen a better player in the air - and a free kick 25 yards out was as good as a penalty'.......Mendonca 'one of the best hat tricks you would ever see - a brilliant display of control and finishing'.

    Jacko has great stats, but I am struggling to see how i would excite someone who has never seen him play. It is more the overall effect and personality of the man and for that I think he is a bit of a cult hero. Roy of the Rovers type if you like.

    Harry Cripps is a Millwall legend and rightly so. At times Harry boy could barely run let alone run with a ball.

    The status of legend has more to it than the silky skills of Claus or the heading prowess of Yann.

    Jacko has what it takes to transcends just being a good footballer.
  • Bryan_Kynsie
    Bryan_Kynsie Posts: 2,179
    Mark Kinsella played a similar number of games over a similar length of time scoring half the number of goals. Kins played with by and large immeasurably better players at a higher level. Kins also went on to have a management role, albeit not a hugely successful one.

    They are comparable although most people would not consider that JJ had what it takes to play in the PL. Nevertheless, has JJ got what it takes to be called a legend? I don't think you can tell until his time with us is up and we look back. But I would say he is up there looking at the last 20 years. Certainly since we dropped out of the top flight.

    Either way JJ= cult hero and you have to love the fella.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    I think JJ is more likely to go in to the world of media rather than management. Given the work he's already done for the likes of talkSPORT.

    I'd love to keep him involved in some way though, at the very least in an ambassador type role.
  • I think JJ is more likely to go in to the world of media rather than management. Given the work he's already done for the likes of talkSPORT.

    I'd love to keep him involved in some way though, at the very least in an ambassador type role.

    Dunno... Dont forget the Coaching Badges that he's doing, not to mention the soccer courses he's setup
  • I will never forget The People's Cup Final. What a day.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,907

    And he will always be a legend for having a song that had no relation to his role for his team. :-)

    I have tried to start a round of "Johnnie Johnnie Jackson du du du du" but no one joined in and I was left looking like a mug!!