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  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,452

    The Elizabeth line has set a new daily record for passenger number according to Transport for London.

    There were 685,000 journeys made on Thursday 15th June topping previous bests.

    https://www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2023/06/23/elizabeth-line-breaks-record-for-single-days-passenger-journeys/

  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,126
    R0TW said:
    Whilst on a geeky run, check out the Global 78’ and 86” advertising moving image screens (TV screens) across TfL.
    In the centres at the top are iris recognition cameras.
    I mean what a waste of time, I don’t know anyone called Iris, much better to have a Sarah or a Louise recognition cam. Common as muck them two are….
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,452

    Elizabeth line services through London have been suspended because of a swan on the track at Paddington.

    Passengers on board a number of services said they had been told the bird was blocking part of the route.

    Transport for London (TfL) said there was "an obstruction" on the track which had halted trains between Heathrow Airport in west London and Abbey Wood in south-east London.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-66054661

  • fadgadget
    fadgadget Posts: 1,391

  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,452

    Elizabeth line carries 600,000 passengers a day as people switch from Underground and other rail services

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/tfl-elizabeth-line-passenger-numbers-600-k-day-busier-than-underground-tube-b1096530.html
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    hopefully the stonking success of the elizabeth line after all the delays will get crossrail 2 off ice.
  • Jints
    Jints Posts: 3,491
    Not while we have a Tory Govt and a Labour mayor.
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,452

    The Elizabeth line has lost its crown as the UK’s most punctual railway.

    Latest figures from the Office of Rail and Road show that only 82.5 per cent of its trains arrived on time between April and June – down 5.6 points on the first three months of the year.

    This meant the Elizabeth line fell from first to second place in the national train punctuality league table.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/elizabeth-line-delays-cancellations-overground-most-punctual-railway-b1106952.html

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  • hopefully the stonking success of the elizabeth line after all the delays will get crossrail 2 off ice.
    Or extend the current line into kent
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  • When it has issues it really does bung up both ways. Swans on the track was a good one. Carnival revellers trespassing on the line was another more recently- both in the Paddington area. How on earth are animals and people getting on the track so apparently easily?!   

    Other times it has come to a standstill and i've been lucky to have access to other lines at those stations to finish my journey. Does feel a lot less reliable than it should do on the whole.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,801
    A lot to do with the Paddington to Reading/Heathrow section being a mess and Network Rail not sorting it. 
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,845
     Charltonised
  • R0TW
    R0TW Posts: 1,673
    And yet a underfunded 160 year old system still seems operate
  • R0TW said:
    And yet a underfunded 160 year old system still seems operate
    Well, as best it can, given its age. @Rothko point above is that the trouble stems from when Crossrail has to use the underfunded 160 year old system.

    By the same token the figures for South Eastern hide an important fact: HS1 as a line is easily the most punctual and reliable in the UK. The SE figure presumably combines the Javelin services with the daily shit-show most Lifers experience on the suburban network. 

    That’s why new-build lines are worth the investment. Hardly surprising when they replace something “160 years old”.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,845
    Anyone know if the Elizabeth line is running on Saturday? South Eastern are completely shutting down.

    Cheers

  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,801
    Off_it said:
    Anyone know if the Elizabeth line is running on Saturday? South Eastern are completely shutting down.

    Cheers

    Running as usual this weekend 
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,845
    Rothko said:
    Off_it said:
    Anyone know if the Elizabeth line is running on Saturday? South Eastern are completely shutting down.

    Cheers

    Running as usual this weekend 
    Nice one - cheers
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,452

    Royal London Hospital blames Elizabeth line for patient influx

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67168670
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  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,845
    clive said:

    Royal London Hospital blames Elizabeth line for patient influx

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67168670
    Ms Davison explained: "It's very difficult to stop people coming to us by the Elizabeth line," 

    Why would they want to? Its a hospital ffs!
  • stevexreeve
    stevexreeve Posts: 1,386
    Funny that nobody foresaw this! Transport and health planners are among the most stupid people in the world. Along with VAR and other referees 🙂
  • Rothko said:
    Off_it said:
    Anyone know if the Elizabeth line is running on Saturday? South Eastern are completely shutting down.

    Cheers

    Running as usual this weekend 

    The Heathrow Express wasn't running which is amusing.
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,452

    Greenwich Council still owes £4.4million towards Woolwich’s Elizabeth Line station with less than two years left to pay the bill, documents to be put before senior councillors reveal.

    The council agreed to pay £15 million towards the cost of the station a decade ago in a complex deal involving City Hall and Berkeley Homes because neither the Westminster government nor Transport for London included a station in the original plans for Crossrail.

    https://greenwichwire.co.uk/2023/11/29/greenwich-council-still-owes-4-4-million-for-woolwich-crossrail-station-bill/

  • R0TW
    R0TW Posts: 1,673
    The council tax for 3 months of the local builds will cover that
  • WHAddick
    WHAddick Posts: 1,147
    Now we know the real reason fir the parking restriction extension!
  • No other London borough had to pay towards having an Elizabeth Line station”. 

    Have I missed something in the article. How comes no other borough had to pay for a station? 
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,048
    “No other London borough had to pay towards having an Elizabeth Line station”. 

    Have I missed something in the article. How comes no other borough had to pay for a station? 
    Woolwich wasn’t planned to have a station at all.  Neither the Government or TfL had included it, so the council did a deal with City Hall & Berkeley Homes to secure Woolwich.  I think they were right to do so, but also wrong that they have short-changed themselves for too long with regard to the fees they charge developers. Probably the reason there are so many new developments in the borough, but also why the station was needed. 
  • That sounds awful. Obviously glad i was home today and not using it.

    The line seems to be severely lacking reliability, and resilience compared to others. I'm no engineer but maybe too many corners have been cut in the design and building stages. For example (and not necessarily relevant to tonight) i'd expect a broken down train could be cleared into a siding, but there don't seem to be any such sidings. Isn't that what happens on other lines? 

    Also the incidents of trespass seem high. Swans on the track at Paddington caused my train to reverse on one occasion, back to Woolwich, and on Carnival weekend we had trespassers on the line at Ladbroke Grove meaning the whole line was closed. People and animals shouldn't be able to wander onto the tracks. When it's bad it's really bad and my confidence in the line is falling.