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We were lucky it didn't happen on Wednesday night - imagine how pissed off you'd be if you went to the game and got to the station and discovered there were no trains back.shirty5 said:
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imagine being stuck on a train with Rachel Riley for four hours .....shirty5 said:6 -
Not really the new part of the Elizabeth Line though was it?swords_alive said:That sounds awful. Obviously glad i was home today and not using it.
The line seems to be severely lacking reliability, and resilience compared to others. I'm no engineer but maybe too many corners have been cut in the design and building stages. For example (and not necessarily relevant to tonight) i'd expect a broken down train could be cleared into a siding, but there don't seem to be any such sidings. Isn't that what happens on other lines?
Also the incidents of trespass seem high. Swans on the track at Paddington caused my train to reverse on one occasion, back to Woolwich, and on Carnival weekend we had trespassers on the line at Ladbroke Grove meaning the whole line was closed. People and animals shouldn't be able to wander onto the tracks. When it's bad it's really bad and my confidence in the line is falling.
It's just that we are trying to run a modern train service along tracks that were originally built 150 years ago!
As we hope to do between Birmingham and Manchester for the next 150 years. It's all common sense really.3 -
as @stevexreeve says, 90% of the EL problems come from running west of Paddington on knackered infrastructure
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But why does the whole line seize up so readily?0
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No where for the trains at the intensity they run at, to go, 12 tph before through running was just about ok at Paddington, 28tph an hour need Reading and Heathrow to allow that amount of trains to run in the coreswords_alive said:But why does the whole line seize up so readily?1 -
Network Rail have been late on all the upgrades needed on the lines west of Paddington.
The core section through Central London uses a rigid overhead power supply which is not prone to the problems experienced this week.
Hayes & Harlington has a siding to enable trains to terminate and reverse there. There are buses from there to Heathrow.0 -
Platform 5 CrustyCrusty54 said:Network Rail have been late on all the upgrades needed on the lines west of Paddington.
The core section through Central London uses a rigid overhead power supply which is not prone to the problems experienced this week.
Hayes & Harlington has a siding to enable trains to terminate and reverse there. There are buses from there to Heathrow.0 - Sponsored links:
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This may come as quite a shock, but swans can fly.2
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All-night Elizabeth Line services will come to Woolwich and Abbey Wood this New Year’s Eve – the first 24-hour Crossrail service since the railway opened 19 months ago.
Special services will run between Abbey Wood, Maidenhead and Reading, providing a train about every 15 minutes through Woolwich. Trains will also run between Hayes & Harlington and Shenfield.
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No loos on Elizabeth Line trains! That must have been tricky!shirty5 said:1 -
Not really, I heard Rachel Riley was on there!thetomahawkkid said:
No loos on Elizabeth Line trains! That must have been tricky!shirty5 said:1 -
About two weeks ago, a whistle blower gave BBC South pics of broken rails on the Paddington to Reading lines. Coincidentally, there have been differing problems every day since. I just missed the chaos last week by getting an earlier train but apart from that incident, the Elizabeth trains have actually been running pretty well this month (went straight to Woolwich for the game last Saturday). This is because most of the issues have been affecting the fast lines (which are mainly used by GWR).Crusty54 said:Network Rail have been late on all the upgrades needed on the lines west of Paddington.
The core section through Central London uses a rigid overhead power supply which is not prone to the problems experienced this week.
Hayes & Harlington has a siding to enable trains to terminate and reverse there. There are buses from there to Heathrow.
But the infrastructure coming out of Paddington is literally falling apart. TfL is going to have to think about putting loos on the Lizzie trains because it's only a matter of time when another clusterf--k occurs. As I write this in the early afternoon of Thursday 14th December, Paddington is showing cancelled and delayed trains across the board. This time the reason is "a fault with the signalling system" in the Southall area.
Nobody has died yet. I know that sounds a bit dramatic, but passengers did die in two major rail disasters - at Southall and at Ladbroke Grove - on this very line back in the late 1990s.
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London's Liverpool Street station has replaced Waterloo as the busiest in Britain, new figures show.
The Office of Rail and Road (ORR) said the "full opening of the Elizabeth line has changed the way people travel".
It has seen a year-on-year increase of around 50 million, which was attributed to the opening of the Elizabeth line in May 2022, which serves the station.
The line, which also stops at Paddington, caused the station to rise to second place with 59.2 million entries and exits.
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The lady who is in charge of the rail network out of Paddington and earns £300,000 per year has resigned no doupt with a payoff and pension. She lives in Aberdeen and quiet often commutes to London by plane.1
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Dear me. Not that I disbelieve you - it’s all too believable - but whom did she work for? Network Rail?Dansk_Red said:The lady who is in charge of the rail network out of Paddington and earns £300,000 per year has resigned no doupt with a payoff and pension. She lives in Aberdeen and quiet often commutes to London by plane.0 -
Michelle Handforth, Network Rail managing director for the Wales & Western region from Paddington. Her boss was on one of the stuck Elizabeth line trains and made a few critical remarks himself:
https://www.expressandstar.com/news/uk-news/2023/12/08/network-rails-ceo-was-one-of-thousands-of-passengers-stranded-on-thursday/
Independent's report of today about Handforth's departure from Network Rail:
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/network-rail-paddington-gwml-michelle-handforth-aberdeen-b2464751.html
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"Ms Handforth was paid a £330,000 salary and commuted to work from Aberdeen.shirty5 said:A rail insider said she had made the decision to resign before the west London incident, after recognising the challenges of the role....
...Ms Handforth had been in the role for three-and-a-half years...."
So that's all good...
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New data out today has shown the Elizabeth line set another new record for passenger journeys with 17.8 million made between 15th October and 11th November.
That trumps the previous month – itself a record – which stood at 17.3 million.
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I still haven't set foot on the Liz line!
Did I read it right somewhere that South Eastern are now putting Gravesend and beyond trains down the Bexleyheath and SIdcup lines to stop commuters using the Liz Line to protect their revenue, or did I conjure that up in my head?6 -
Exactly what they are doingJohnBoyUK said:I still haven't set foot on the Liz line!
Did I read it right somewhere that South Eastern are now putting Gravesend and beyond trains down the Bexleyheath and SIdcup lines to stop commuters using the Liz Line to protect their revenue, or did I conjure that up in my head?2 -
that's fucking criminalRothko said:
Exactly what they are doingJohnBoyUK said:I still haven't set foot on the Liz line!
Did I read it right somewhere that South Eastern are now putting Gravesend and beyond trains down the Bexleyheath and SIdcup lines to stop commuters using the Liz Line to protect their revenue, or did I conjure that up in my head?3
