It seems that Kent Police were carrying out security checks, but it just shows how quickly traffic chaos builds up when thousands of lorries are held up at the ports.
The extra security checks are on the French side which has put everything out of sync. They're probably demonstrating about something, they did this before to show how bad 'no deal' will be unless they hire loads more staff in Calais.
Operation Brock is already causing problems on a daily basis. They are closing the almost M20 every night until the end of November, whilst they install the steel barrier which will protect the workers putting down the infrastructure for the removable concrete barrier.
Have got this week off work and we went to Folkestone on Monday and there was an accident in the Brock area between 9 and 8 on the M20. All the traffic going London bound was at a complete standstill. It happened on an almost daily basis whilst the hated steel barrier was in place last time and will do again.
Although I voted for Brexit, it IS gong to cause massive problems for the country, as the Government appears to be making a hash of this, like almost everything else they have had a hand in. Yes, I did vote for them as well, but bitterly regret that now.
Do you know why this happened.....no you don’t. The hold up was due in this instance to something that took place in France NOT the UK. I agree there are quite possibly some hold ups that are going to be ongoing for a while whilst some security alterations are going on. Anyway, blame the government why don’t you.😴😴😴
Operation Brock is already causing problems on a daily basis. They are closing the almost M20 every night until the end of November, whilst they install the steel barrier which will protect the workers putting down the infrastructure for the removable concrete barrier.
Have got this week off work and we went to Folkestone on Monday and there was an accident in the Brock area between 9 and 8 on the M20. All the traffic going London bound was at a complete standstill. It happened on an almost daily basis whilst the hated steel barrier was in place last time and will do again.
Although I voted for Brexit, it IS gong to cause massive problems for the country, as the Government appears to be making a hash of this, like almost everything else they have had a hand in. Yes, I did vote for them as well, but bitterly regret that now.
Do you know why this happened.....no you don’t. The hold up was due in this instance to something that took place in France NOT the UK. I agree there are quite possibly some hold ups that are going to be ongoing for a while whilst some security alterations are going on. Anyway, blame the government why don’t you.😴😴😴
My understanding is there were increased checks in England (too) for a number of reasons.
Not Brexit's fault (for once)!
Whichever government is in power, I don't always see the poor performance and choices of any agency or department directly the fault of the government e.g. PHE in recent months
Operation Brock is already causing problems on a daily basis. They are closing the almost M20 every night until the end of November, whilst they install the steel barrier which will protect the workers putting down the infrastructure for the removable concrete barrier.
Have got this week off work and we went to Folkestone on Monday and there was an accident in the Brock area between 9 and 8 on the M20. All the traffic going London bound was at a complete standstill. It happened on an almost daily basis whilst the hated steel barrier was in place last time and will do again.
Although I voted for Brexit, it IS gong to cause massive problems for the country, as the Government appears to be making a hash of this, like almost everything else they have had a hand in. Yes, I did vote for them as well, but bitterly regret that now.
Do you know why this happened.....no you don’t. The hold up was due in this instance to something that took place in France NOT the UK. I agree there are quite possibly some hold ups that are going to be ongoing for a while whilst some security alterations are going on. Anyway, blame the government why don’t you.😴😴😴
Today's problems were caused by security checks at Eurotunnel and Dover and I didn't blame the Government for that, but it has caused massive traffic jams throughout Kent. I DO blame the Government for not properly preparing for when the transitional period ends on 31st December.
Operation Brock is being put in place by the Government, because they know that it is very likely that there will be problems after 31st December. They have had over 4 years to bring in the technology which would allow customs 'paperwork' be done online and we are now being told they cannot test this until the end of November. There are very real fears by people within the haulage industry, that freight operators will not know what is required of them after 31st December. There are thousands of HGVs travelling through Kent every day and if they arrive at Dover without having completed the online paperwork, they will have to be held somewhere and the road system is their favoured place, which has a knock on effect on large parts of the county.
I DO know that it is already causing problems because the M20 is closed almost every night until the end of November and all traffic has to be re-routed through the county, often onto other roads which have closures.
I saw for myself on Monday, the M20 at a standstill due to either an accident or breakdown in the section where the steel barrier has already been put in place. There were breakdowns and accidents on the Op Brock section almost every day last winter.
A poster on this thread today, above, says they bitterly regret it.
Oh did they. Well that is 1 then, Apologies I missed that; wfh, listening to the ENG game and trying to keep up to data with the Kent game and this thread, lol
I sense the direction of travel of this thread might be at a fork in the road. May I suggest on this part of Charlton life it is used for information such as the gridlock and the problems and any positive news too. Perhaps discussing the negative impact of brexit on this issue is best written in the brexit section on the House of Commoners section.
Part of Op Brock is that the vehicles will held on a closed off section of the M26, where their paper work is checked before being allowed to proceed to Dover. a border ready pass will have been issued. The DVSA will assist Kent Police with Stopping vehicles trying to dodge the jams and rat running through Kent. Highways England will also have a roll to play. Both DVSA and HE Traffic Officers may have an increase in their powers. Any vehicles found contravening the regs will have a £300 fine and a direction notice back to the M26 holding area, where they will join the back of the queue. Manston airport will be used to park trucks, and at Ashford a huge holding area has been built to help keep the roads clear. This will be a massive operation, but a lot of planning/training has gone in to it. Let hope we have a mild winter and COVID 19 is finally under control.
Part of Op Brock is that the vehicles will held on a closed off section of the M26, where their paper work is checked before being allowed to proceed to Dover. a border ready pass will have been issued. The DVSA will assist Kent Police with Stopping vehicles trying to dodge the jams and rat running through Kent. Highways England will also have a roll to play. Both DVSA and HE Traffic Officers may have an increase in their powers. Any vehicles found contravening the regs will have a £300 fine and a direction notice back to the M26 holding area, where they will join the back of the queue. Manston airport will be used to park trucks, and at Ashford a huge holding area has been built to help keep the roads clear. This will be a massive operation, but a lot of planning/training has gone in to it. Let hope we have a mild winter and COVID 19 is finally under control.
Why is it called rat running when vehicles travel along a legitimate road in order to get from a to b. Rat running is a disparaging term isn't it, like Aneurin Bevan calling Tories vermin? Surely the more accurate description is that vehicles are travelling along 'back doubles'.
Part of Op Brock is that the vehicles will held on a closed off section of the M26, where their paper work is checked before being allowed to proceed to Dover. a border ready pass will have been issued. The DVSA will assist Kent Police with Stopping vehicles trying to dodge the jams and rat running through Kent. Highways England will also have a roll to play. Both DVSA and HE Traffic Officers may have an increase in their powers. Any vehicles found contravening the regs will have a £300 fine and a direction notice back to the M26 holding area, where they will join the back of the queue. Manston airport will be used to park trucks, and at Ashford a huge holding area has been built to help keep the roads clear. This will be a massive operation, but a lot of planning/training has gone in to it. Let hope we have a mild winter and COVID 19 is finally under control.
Rat running is a term must people understand, as the HGVs will be restricted by law (SI) from using certain roads they will be breaking the law if they use them. The restrictions have been brought in so that local residents do not suffer any disruption,.
Rat running is a term must people understand, as the HGVs will be restricted by law (SI) from using certain roads they will be breaking the law if they use them. The restrictions have been brought in so that local residents do not suffer any disruption,.
Local residents are already suffering disruption with the M20 being closed almost every night for 3 months.
HGVs already enter roads they are restricted from entering, nothing much happens to them. Leeds village suffers on a daily basis.
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https://www.kentonline.co.uk/dover/news/live-stack-is-back-after-police-operation-233845/
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-54179979
The hold up was due in this instance to something that took place in France NOT the UK.
I agree there are quite possibly some hold ups that are going to be ongoing for a while whilst some security alterations are going on.
Anyway, blame the government why don’t you.😴😴😴
Not Brexit's fault (for once)!
Whichever government is in power, I don't always see the poor performance and choices of any agency or department directly the fault of the government e.g. PHE in recent months
Operation Brock is being put in place by the Government, because they know that it is very likely that there will be problems after 31st December. They have had over 4 years to bring in the technology which would allow customs 'paperwork' be done online and we are now being told they cannot test this until the end of November. There are very real fears by people within the haulage industry, that freight operators will not know what is required of them after 31st December. There are thousands of HGVs travelling through Kent every day and if they arrive at Dover without having completed the online paperwork, they will have to be held somewhere and the road system is their favoured place, which has a knock on effect on large parts of the county.
I DO know that it is already causing problems because the M20 is closed almost every night until the end of November and all traffic has to be re-routed through the county, often onto other roads which have closures.
I saw for myself on Monday, the M20 at a standstill due to either an accident or breakdown in the section where the steel barrier has already been put in place. There were breakdowns and accidents on the Op Brock section almost every day last winter.
Way too late.
Regretful?
Late?
It is highly likely that they are aware of that.
Everybody is aware it is too late for regrets.
But not everybody regrets it.
Perhaps discussing the negative impact of brexit on this issue is best written in the brexit section on the House of Commoners section.
Any vehicles found contravening the regs will have a £300 fine and a direction notice back to the M26 holding area, where they will join the back of the queue. Manston airport will be used to park trucks, and at Ashford a huge holding area has been built to help keep the roads clear. This will be a massive operation, but a lot of planning/training has gone in to it.
Let hope we have a mild winter and COVID 19 is finally under control.
Rat running is a disparaging term isn't it, like Aneurin Bevan calling Tories vermin?
Surely the more accurate description is that vehicles are travelling along 'back doubles'.
Rat Runs or rat running has always struck me as rather a middle class NIMBY expression.
HGVs already enter roads they are restricted from entering, nothing much happens to them. Leeds village suffers on a daily basis.