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  • Operation Brock is being put in place on the M20 tonight, it is expected to be in place until 22nd December.

    Tonight the M20 will be closed between junctions 7 & 9 coastbound, and between junctions 9 & 8 westbound. The closures are from 8pm this evening to 6am tomorrow.
    I'll be driving to Maidstone (coming from Dartford) on Wednesday 18th (mid-morning) this shouldn't effect me should it....I'll be leaving the M20 at junction 5.
  • Operation Brock is being put in place on the M20 tonight, it is expected to be in place until 22nd December.

    Tonight the M20 will be closed between junctions 7 & 9 coastbound, and between junctions 9 & 8 westbound. The closures are from 8pm this evening to 6am tomorrow.
    Seems to be rolled out at least three times a year, although this time only pre Christmas, according to Toby Howell, thank god! Apparently there is an expected surge in HGV drivers returning home. As I mentioned before the Ferry companies and Eurotunnel  need to sort this mess out, not going to be KCC, or National highways, or HMG is it? Quite why the financial cost of this is down to the taxpayer is a scandal. In the meantime the British motorist  is the victim of this nonsense.    
  • Operation Brock is being put in place on the M20 tonight, it is expected to be in place until 22nd December.

    Tonight the M20 will be closed between junctions 7 & 9 coastbound, and between junctions 9 & 8 westbound. The closures are from 8pm this evening to 6am tomorrow.
    I'll be driving to Maidstone (coming from Dartford) on Wednesday 18th (mid-morning) this shouldn't effect me should it....I'll be leaving the M20 at junction 5.
    No, when in place Brock affects junction 8 to 9. There are roadworks around J5 with a 50 mph average speed check.
  • Operation Brock is being put in place on the M20 tonight, it is expected to be in place until 22nd December.

    Tonight the M20 will be closed between junctions 7 & 9 coastbound, and between junctions 9 & 8 westbound. The closures are from 8pm this evening to 6am tomorrow.
    Seems to be rolled out at least three times a year, although this time only pre Christmas, according to Toby Howell, thank god! Apparently there is an expected surge in HGV drivers returning home. As I mentioned before the Ferry companies and Eurotunnel  need to sort this mess out, not going to be KCC, or National highways, or HMG is it? Quite why the financial cost of this is down to the taxpayer is a scandal. In the meantime the British motorist  is the victim of this nonsense.    
    Last week I had a meeting with Toby Howe, Helen Whately MP and 2 of our local Councillors. There is an agreement in place for Brock to be used until 2027 and it will continue to be deployed when the ports indicate that cross channel traffic is going to be higher than normal.

    One good piece of news is that they are considering a 'mini Brock' where they will only use part of the section from junctions 8 to 9. That would be better as it would reduce the section with the reduced speed limit.

    All agreed that lorry parks are the answer,  but given that funds are tight and nobody wants a lorry park near where they live  that seems a long way off.



  • Operation Brock is being put in place on the M20 tonight, it is expected to be in place until 22nd December.

    Tonight the M20 will be closed between junctions 7 & 9 coastbound, and between junctions 9 & 8 westbound. The closures are from 8pm this evening to 6am tomorrow.
    I'll be driving to Maidstone (coming from Dartford) on Wednesday 18th (mid-morning) this shouldn't effect me should it....I'll be leaving the M20 at junction 5.
    No, when in place Brock affects junction 8 to 9. There are roadworks around J5 with a 50 mph average speed check.
    Thanks.
  • Operation Brock is being put in place on the M20 tonight, it is expected to be in place until 22nd December.

    Tonight the M20 will be closed between junctions 7 & 9 coastbound, and between junctions 9 & 8 westbound. The closures are from 8pm this evening to 6am tomorrow.
    Seems to be rolled out at least three times a year, although this time only pre Christmas, according to Toby Howell, thank god! Apparently there is an expected surge in HGV drivers returning home. As I mentioned before the Ferry companies and Eurotunnel  need to sort this mess out, not going to be KCC, or National highways, or HMG is it? Quite why the financial cost of this is down to the taxpayer is a scandal. In the meantime the British motorist  is the victim of this nonsense.    
    Last week I had a meeting with Toby Howe, Helen Whately MP and 2 of our local Councillors. There is an agreement in place for Brock to be used until 2027 and it will continue to be deployed when the ports indicate that cross channel traffic is going to be higher than normal.

    One good piece of news is that they are considering a 'mini Brock' where they will only use part of the section from junctions 8 to 9. That would be better as it would reduce the section with the reduced speed limit.

    All agreed that lorry parks are the answer,  but given that funds are tight and nobody wants a lorry park near where they live  that seems a long way off.



    Thanks for the update , I remember  before you mentioned you would be meeting up with Howell, Not sure Whately's fellow MP's are keen on the roll out, if the comments in the local paper are anything to go by?.(The decision to deploy Brock has been criticised by Ashford’s MP due to the inconvenience it causes his constituents. Sofan Joseph says he hoped port bosses could cope with Christmas traffic without having to resort to “emergency measures” according to the local paper.) and the Folkestone and Hythe MP is non too happy as well, at least that is what he told me, when he came to an exhibition I am part of in central Folkestone, perhaps they should discuss the matter at that level, then perhaps they might get some traction, and finance, the planning laws may well be more flexible in the near future, although I agree who wants a lorry park next to there house.  
     One of the main reasons I am trying to move back to be honest, I cannot see an end in sight I am sorry to say.  
  • I thought they built a lorry park off  J11 (Hythe) just as you get on the road to Canterbury. 
  • Anyone venturing further afield then look out.
    The M25 between M11 and the A12 has been shut since lunchtime

  • I thought they built a lorry park off  J11 (Hythe) just as you get on the road to Canterbury. 
    There is a Truck Stop there I believe, but it's not enough to store HGVs when needed. There is the border inspection facility near J 10a at Ashford, which is used to check food and plant/flower imports.
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  • Operation Brock is being put in place on the M20 tonight, it is expected to be in place until 22nd December.

    Tonight the M20 will be closed between junctions 7 & 9 coastbound, and between junctions 9 & 8 westbound. The closures are from 8pm this evening to 6am tomorrow.
    Seems to be rolled out at least three times a year, although this time only pre Christmas, according to Toby Howell, thank god! Apparently there is an expected surge in HGV drivers returning home. As I mentioned before the Ferry companies and Eurotunnel  need to sort this mess out, not going to be KCC, or National highways, or HMG is it? Quite why the financial cost of this is down to the taxpayer is a scandal. In the meantime the British motorist  is the victim of this nonsense.    
    Last week I had a meeting with Toby Howe, Helen Whately MP and 2 of our local Councillors. There is an agreement in place for Brock to be used until 2027 and it will continue to be deployed when the ports indicate that cross channel traffic is going to be higher than normal.

    One good piece of news is that they are considering a 'mini Brock' where they will only use part of the section from junctions 8 to 9. That would be better as it would reduce the section with the reduced speed limit.

    All agreed that lorry parks are the answer,  but given that funds are tight and nobody wants a lorry park near where they live  that seems a long way off.



    Thanks for the update , I remember  before you mentioned you would be meeting up with Howell, Not sure Whately's fellow MP's are keen on the roll out, if the comments in the local paper are anything to go by?.(The decision to deploy Brock has been criticised by Ashford’s MP due to the inconvenience it causes his constituents. Sofan Joseph says he hoped port bosses could cope with Christmas traffic without having to resort to “emergency measures” according to the local paper.) and the Folkestone and Hythe MP is non too happy as well, at least that is what he told me, when he came to an exhibition I am part of in central Folkestone, perhaps they should discuss the matter at that level, then perhaps they might get some traction, and finance, the planning laws may well be more flexible in the near future, although I agree who wants a lorry park next to there house.  
     One of the main reasons I am trying to move back to be honest, I cannot see an end in sight I am sorry to say.  
    HW did say that all the old Kent Tory MPs had been trying to get an alternative to Brock, but hadn't been successful. She said she wasn't sure of the position of the new MPs.

    It is frustrating that so many people are affected by Brock, but the objections to a lorry park by a very few people srmtopped it being built.
  • Anyone venturing further afield then look out.
    The M25 between M11 and the A12 has been shut since lunchtime

    This thread is for Kent, take your northern traffic chaos elsewhere 😁😁
    The tailbacks for it are in Kent!!
  • Anyone venturing further afield then look out.
    The M25 between M11 and the A12 has been shut since lunchtime

    Just got home via the M25 but fortunately clockwise by this, will be surprised if there were no fatalities from this, one car was destroyed front and back. 
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  • Operation Brock is being put in place on the M20 tonight, it is expected to be in place until 22nd December.

    Tonight the M20 will be closed between junctions 7 & 9 coastbound, and between junctions 9 & 8 westbound. The closures are from 8pm this evening to 6am tomorrow.
    Seems to be rolled out at least three times a year, although this time only pre Christmas, according to Toby Howell, thank god! Apparently there is an expected surge in HGV drivers returning home. As I mentioned before the Ferry companies and Eurotunnel  need to sort this mess out, not going to be KCC, or National highways, or HMG is it? Quite why the financial cost of this is down to the taxpayer is a scandal. In the meantime the British motorist  is the victim of this nonsense.    
    Last week I had a meeting with Toby Howe, Helen Whately MP and 2 of our local Councillors. There is an agreement in place for Brock to be used until 2027 and it will continue to be deployed when the ports indicate that cross channel traffic is going to be higher than normal.

    One good piece of news is that they are considering a 'mini Brock' where they will only use part of the section from junctions 8 to 9. That would be better as it would reduce the section with the reduced speed limit.

    All agreed that lorry parks are the answer,  but given that funds are tight and nobody wants a lorry park near where they live  that seems a long way off.



    Thanks for the update , I remember  before you mentioned you would be meeting up with Howell, Not sure Whately's fellow MP's are keen on the roll out, if the comments in the local paper are anything to go by?.(The decision to deploy Brock has been criticised by Ashford’s MP due to the inconvenience it causes his constituents. Sofan Joseph says he hoped port bosses could cope with Christmas traffic without having to resort to “emergency measures” according to the local paper.) and the Folkestone and Hythe MP is non too happy as well, at least that is what he told me, when he came to an exhibition I am part of in central Folkestone, perhaps they should discuss the matter at that level, then perhaps they might get some traction, and finance, the planning laws may well be more flexible in the near future, although I agree who wants a lorry park next to there house.  
     One of the main reasons I am trying to move back to be honest, I cannot see an end in sight I am sorry to say.  
    HW did say that all the old Kent Tory MPs had been trying to get an alternative to Brock, but hadn't been successful. She said she wasn't sure of the position of the new MPs.

    It is frustrating that so many people are affected by Brock, but the objections to a lorry park by a very few people srmtopped it being built.
    Tony Vaughan is the MP for Folkestone and Hythe, ...Labour , Sojan Joseph is the MP for Ashford and Hawking, Mp For Dover and Deal Mike Tapp again labour, so the Damian Greens and Damian Collins were kicked out, as well as  Natalie Elphick, so the4 current MP's most affected by this do not have an input, as it happens the Chair of Folkestone and Hythe, which is a large area, came to my exhibition, and I cannot see him supporting the Operation Brock fiasco!. of course Dover has to be free to have have a free flowing port, but lets admit it the infrastructure in these parts come to a standstill , when the A2  has issues...Only been to one home game of an evening in 7 years since moving down here as I have mobility issues, just too stressful  for me, and that's besides the football! 
  • edited December 17
    buckshee said:
    Anyone venturing further afield then look out.
    The M25 between M11 and the A12 has been shut since lunchtime

    Just got home via the M25 but fortunately clockwise by this, will be surprised if there were no fatalities from this, one car was destroyed front and back. 
    Without knowing the circumstances this is dreadful. But i find that driving on the A2/M25 and in that area some of the worst i see on a regular basis when visiting from leafy Hampshire. Too fast and too close and no courtesy to other drivers is the norm. I am surprised there isn't more accidents. 

    The area is grossly over populated.
  • buckshee said:
    Anyone venturing further afield then look out.
    The M25 between M11 and the A12 has been shut since lunchtime

    Just got home via the M25 but fortunately clockwise by this, will be surprised if there were no fatalities from this, one car was destroyed front and back. 
    buckshee said:
    Anyone venturing further afield then look out.
    The M25 between M11 and the A12 has been shut since lunchtime

    Just got home via the M25 but fortunately clockwise by this, will be surprised if there were no fatalities from this, one car was destroyed front and back. 
    Without knowing the circumstances this is dreadful. But i find that driving on the A2/M25 and in that area some of the worst i see on a regular basis when visiting from leafy Hampshire. Too fast and too close and no courtesy to other drivers is the norm. I am surprised there isn't more accidents. 
    • 16 December 2024

    A 68-year-old man has died in a three-vehicle crash on the M25.

    Essex Police was called to the anti-clockwise carriageway of the motorway between junction 27, near Epping, and junction 28, near Brentwood, at about 11:00 GMT today.

    Two other people were taken to hospital.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce8x3jnx5m6o

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