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  • Anyone any idea how long the slip road at Falconwood onto the A2 will be shut?, Welling High St and surrounding is an absolute joke at the moment

    cant find any info on it anywhere 
  • Bexley village  Road from Roundabout at North Cray Road to the roundabout by the George pub in the village will be shut from 7pm to 2am for four nights commencing Monday 2nd October.
  • 7pm to 2am?! That's fucking nuts! It will be total carnage for miles around. 
  • Anyone any idea how long the slip road at Falconwood onto the A2 will be shut?, Welling High St and surrounding is an absolute joke at the moment

    cant find any info on it anywhere 
    Apparently reopens tomorrow. It's completely fucked around Welling because of that. Plus they've put a load of new box junction markings in all over the place. Cnuts!
  • edited September 2023
    Rizzo said:
    Anyone any idea how long the slip road at Falconwood onto the A2 will be shut?, Welling High St and surrounding is an absolute joke at the moment

    cant find any info on it anywhere 
    Apparently reopens tomorrow. It's completely fucked around Welling because of that. Plus they've put a load of new box junction markings in all over the place. Cnuts!
    The council need the money. The same Tory council who took  Khan to court over ULEZ and the unfair tax on the car owner.
  • Rizzo said:
    7pm to 2am?! That's fucking nuts! It will be total carnage for miles around. 
    Coincides nicely with our evening game on the tuesday. Looks like it will be back to the 20 min wait at the Swanley junction of the M25 due to the roadworks on that roundabout
  • The M20 is closed tonight from junction 8 to 9 coastbound as there are problems at Eurotunnel

    Operation Brock which was meant to be used when there are problems at the ports, cannot be put in place quickly enough so they close the motorway instead, forcing all traffic onto surrounding roads, resulting in chaos. Eurotunnel workers are on strike in France.

    This is the 3rd time in 4 months that they have had to close the M20 and it proves that the vast expense that Operation Brock has cost already, doesn't work. 
  • The M20 is closed tonight from junction 8 to 9 coastbound as there are problems at Eurotunnel

    Operation Brock which was meant to be used when there are problems at the ports, cannot be put in place quickly enough so they close the motorway instead, forcing all traffic onto surrounding roads, resulting in chaos. Eurotunnel workers are on strike in France.

    This is the 3rd time in 4 months that they have had to close the M20 and it proves that the vast expense that Operation Brock has cost already, doesn't work. 
    French workers would strike regardless of whether we were or not in the EU. Hours of my life have been wasted in traffic jams because of the French.
  • LenGlover said:
    The M20 is closed tonight from junction 8 to 9 coastbound as there are problems at Eurotunnel

    Operation Brock which was meant to be used when there are problems at the ports, cannot be put in place quickly enough so they close the motorway instead, forcing all traffic onto surrounding roads, resulting in chaos. Eurotunnel workers are on strike in France.

    This is the 3rd time in 4 months that they have had to close the M20 and it proves that the vast expense that Operation Brock has cost already, doesn't work. 
    French workers would strike regardless of whether we were or not in the EU. Hours of my life have been wasted in traffic jams because of the French.
    Although Brock was put in to mitigate delays at the ports after Brexit, it isn't fit for purpose as it cannot be put in place quickly enough. In the last 4 months we've had the M20 closed because of an escaped prisoner, Storm Ciaran and now the Eurotunnel strike.
  • South East England is so over populated, there are too many cars and too many lunatics who cant drive but think they can. The French as always do their best to become great neighbours as they always haven't done.
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  • The M20 is closed tonight from junction 8 to 9 coastbound as there are problems at Eurotunnel

    Operation Brock which was meant to be used when there are problems at the ports, cannot be put in place quickly enough so they close the motorway instead, forcing all traffic onto surrounding roads, resulting in chaos. Eurotunnel workers are on strike in France.

    This is the 3rd time in 4 months that they have had to close the M20 and it proves that the vast expense that Operation Brock has cost already, doesn't work. 
    Afraid you are right , The M20 has had restrictions in place for two  years, it has taken this long partly due to the M20 being used as a lorry park, and when it was eventually put in place, there were further delays just after Ashford due to work off the motorway, due to flooding?.... On Monday morning it  eventually opened, then Wednesday night closed for almost 2 hours due to a 2 car pile up @ 5.30ish.I know because I was in it!...... Now tonight this, again using the M20 as a HGV park, hopefully the situation regarding the industrial action will shortly be lifted and not ruin Christmas for people travelling to France, or even to the coast. 

    It really is a journey of 'hope' using this road, and I am informed that the extra safe refuges, further up past Maidstone will be started in the near future, not sure when or for how long?. Another short sighted decision by the Highways Agency, they should never have done away with the hard shoulder in the first place, but as usual the expansion of the motorway was done on the cheap, despite several features on TV including "Panorama' claiming that it was dangerous?. I have noticed in recent month, coming down from London that the police stop the traffic, when and until the HGV/car is recovered, why they cannot close the affected lane, and reduce the traffic to 30 mph, would seem to be a more practical solution, especially between 4pm and 7pm, but I guess the traffic is so intense, because I never see normal speed limits put in place when I travel down, thank god only two days a week!. 
  • Smart Motorways create congestion whenever there is a breakdown or accident, as lanes have to be closed. If there is a hard shoulder, at least the breakdown can usually be moved to the hard shoulder.

    There is a lot more pain to come on the M20. I recently had a meeting with National Highways and they informed me that there has been so much underfunding for Kent's Motorways in recent years, that there is a lot of remedial work needed. The section between junctions 8 & 9 has to be resurfaced which they plan to do with lane closures. 


  • Smart Motorways create congestion whenever there is a breakdown or accident, as lanes have to be closed. If there is a hard shoulder, at least the breakdown can usually be moved to the hard shoulder.

    There is a lot more pain to come on the M20. I recently had a meeting with National Highways and they informed me that there has been so much underfunding for Kent's Motorways in recent years, that there is a lot of remedial work needed. The section between junctions 8 & 9 has to be resurfaced which they plan to do with lane closures. 


    One of the reasons I have not attended a night game at the Valley since the pandemic!.... National Highways are always imposing restrictions and closures early evenings, just not worth the risk, as the only alternative is the A2 M2 via Canterbury for myself. That in itself made me not get a season ticket as well!.
    What with the threat of the  essentially parking ban in Charlton makes it very difficult, especially as I struggle with mobility these days. I was hoping to move back to Bexley earlier this year, but our buyer pulled out, and with the interest rate rises has depressed the market, at least down here in Hythe. Hopefully in the spring we will review our plans and be able to get back to the Bexley area, as my sons could assist me going down there.
    I see this morning that the M20 coast bound is still shut this morning, I thought the whole point of this Operation Brock was  free the local traffic, the result is it does the opposite as it blocks all the local roads down here!.
    So it is off to the Richfield stadium for me on Saturday to watch  my old team Bexley verses Ashford in a cup game! 

     
  • edited January 31
    Left Dartford at 4, over to Costco in Thurrock and back to Eltham in under an hour. Unheard of. Including buying bits in Costco.
  • Left Dartford at 4, over to Costco in Thurrock and back to Eltham in under an hour. Unheard of. Including buying bits in Costco.
    Yes, buying bits in Costco is unheard of for me 😄
  • Left Dartford at 4, over to Costco in Thurrock and back to Eltham in under an hour. Unheard of. Including buying bits in Costco.
    Where they thurpenny bits?
  • My experience of France, and the French people I have met, and many I have learned about, a lot of the French scientists, philosophers, artists and other cultural figures have all seemed pretty good and impressive.
    Many from that geographical region have enriched the whole world substantially.
  • seth plum said:
    My experience of France, and the French people I have met, and many I have learned about, a lot of the French scientists, philosophers, artists and other cultural figures have all seemed pretty good and impressive.
    Many from that geographical region have enriched the whole world substantially.
    What were their views on the traffic in Kent?
  • February the 12th MAJOR gas works at the Danson exit of the A2 London bound side.  This will cause absolute chaos, it will screw the roundabout at the exit, which will screw the roundabout at Penhill /Danson underpass. You can also expect massive queues to come off at the Danson junction at peak times.
  • seth plum said:
    My experience of France, and the French people I have met, and many I have learned about, a lot of the French scientists, philosophers, artists and other cultural figures have all seemed pretty good and impressive.
    Many from that geographical region have enriched the whole world substantially.
    What were their views on the traffic in Kent?
    They just shrugged their shoulders all Gallic like, but at least seth's all over them!
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  • seth plum said:
    My experience of France, and the French people I have met, and many I have learned about, a lot of the French scientists, philosophers, artists and other cultural figures have all seemed pretty good and impressive.
    Many from that geographical region have enriched the whole world substantially.
    What were their views on the traffic in Kent?
    I don’t know. I am not sure that people from the geographical region commonly called France would have views about traffic in Kent.
  • Supposed to be going to the cricket at Canterbury this evening. Journey home looks interesting!
    • The M2 westbound will close from Junction 2 to the A2 Darenth between 8pm and 6am for surface works.

    • The M20 westbound will close between Junction 6 and Junction 4 from 8pm and 6am for surface works.

    So the two major routes from anywhere in the Southeast to anywhere else in the country are both closed at the same fucking time again. Absolute cnuts!!
  • Operation Brock is also in place so there is a contraflow between J8 & J9 on the M20.

    There are also roadworks on the M20 between J3 & J5, this is to put in more refuges on the so called 'smart motorway'.
  • Marvellous!!
  • I’m a member at Kent CCC and live in Orpington. The nighttime closures on the A2 meant I didn’t get home until well after midnight after the Somerset T20, so I’m having to swerve the other games starting at 6.30. At least we’ve got the 50 over games coming up at Beckenham - all two of them!
  • Operation Brock is also in place so there is a contraflow between J8 & J9 on the M20.

    There are also roadworks on the M20 between J3 & J5, this is to put in more refuges on the so called 'smart motorway'.
    Don't like those 'smart motorways'.
  • The M25, M1 and probably many other roads have the same roadworks for more emergency refuges. I believe there was a deadline for installing them so they've planted roadwork signs everywhere to 'start' upgrades - and nothing is happening. Smart motorways are a big, ongoing con. 
  • Operation Brock is being put in place on the M20 tonight, it is expected to be in place until 22nd December.

    Tonight the M20 will be closed between junctions 7 & 9 coastbound, and between junctions 9 & 8 westbound. The closures are from 8pm this evening to 6am tomorrow.
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