Get him back . We have nobody else to play on the left and this loan spell has served its purpose
Bergdich, McAleny, Moussa and Ceballos?
@Scoham -really? I normally respect your footballing judgment on here but am seriously struggling with this. Since when have any of those delivered what Callum has at Charlton in the first team? Don't see any of them having scored five in two games at Championship level yet or much chance of it in the near future...
I was more making the point how RD might see it. Luzon is hardly going to write off his new players so quickly either.
People want to see more patience and support for Harriott, what about the new signings? Some seem to have already written them off. McAleny was being compared to Church after one appearance off the bench. Bergdich is possibly out of position and adjusting to a new country/league.
Not saying they're better but it wasn't long ago many were saying Harriott needs to go out on loan and how excited they were about Ceballos. Harriott has a good of form in League One and now he's apparently the answer. You could argue his hat trick was against a very poor Blackpool side and it's easy to forget how his decision making and poor touch often let him down.
McAleny has scored a couple of Championship goals himself for Cardiff, while Moussa had a good scoring record for Coventry in League One. In terms of ability I doubt there's that much difference between them all, but Harriott's form and our struggles mean he is now seen as the player we need and the others are poor signings of the owner.
The bigger problems are the lack of alternative to Makienok and the amount of injuries we have picked up in just a couple of months. Putting Harriott in the team won't stop us conceding from set pieces or help our frontline hold up the ball.
Get him back . We have nobody else to play on the left and this loan spell has served its purpose
Bergdich, McAleny, Moussa and Ceballos?
@Scoham -really? I normally respect your footballing judgment on here but am seriously struggling with this. Since when have any of those delivered what Callum has at Charlton in the first team? Don't see any of them having scored five in two games at Championship level yet or much chance of it in the near future...
Somewhat disingenuous to only comment on his 2 best games & none of the others where he was in the main poor.
Also, the Blackpool game, although technically a Championship Team, were marooned at the bottom of the league and were middle League 1 level at best.
Get him back . We have nobody else to play on the left and this loan spell has served its purpose
Bergdich, McAleny, Moussa and Ceballos?
@Scoham -really? I normally respect your footballing judgment on here but am seriously struggling with this. Since when have any of those delivered what Callum has at Charlton in the first team? Don't see any of them having scored five in two games at Championship level yet or much chance of it in the near future...
Somewhat disingenuous to only comment on his 2 best games & none of the others where he was in the main poor.
Also, the Blackpool game, although technically a Championship Team, were marooned at the bottom of the league and were middle League 1 level at best.
Blackpool were 20th that season.
Good point. However, as many on here will tell you. You should never let the facts get in the way
Something that most of you are blatantly missing is that he's currently playing on the left of a front 3. Their formation is 4-3-3 which is the same formation we played when he scored 5 in 2 games under Riga.
Unfortunately Luzon seems set on a 4-4-2 which Callum doesn't play as well in. Seeing as we literally have no decent left midfielder I'd love it if we changed to 4-3-3 and bring Callum back but I think Luzon is a one trick pony and won't change.
Under Riga we played the most attractive attacking football I've seen for years at Charlton. Most teams in the PL play 4-3-3 so why can't we...and get Callum back to play a major part of it?
Perfect for when Riga returns after Luzon becomes Roland and Katrien's latest scapegoat then.
He must be recalled as soon as his loan period agreement allows for it. He went away to find form and confidence, it seems that he's found both. He is OUR player and is every much a gem from the academy as are Gomez, Cousins, Fox or any other youth to first teamer of recent vintage. We need an attacker down the left hand side, Harriott is also useful and enthusiastic in getting back and helping out the defence. My only caveat is some of our 'fans'. There is a strong anti Harriott element amongst them. Cousins and Solly can have the odd stinker and it's all 'they're one of our own, gawd bless 'em' .. whereas Harriott makes a fuck up and he's the devil incarnate. Give the man a chance folks, at this point in time .. WE NEED HIM TO BE LOVED and we need a change, a breath of fresh air to improve our woeful attack and midfield.
He must be recalled as soon as his loan period agreement allows for it. He went away to find form and confidence, it seems that he's found both. He is OUR player and is every much a gem from the academy as are Gomez, Cousins, Fox or any other youth to first teamer of recent vintage. We need an attacker down the left hand side, Harriott is also useful and enthusiastic in getting back and helping out the defence. My only caveat is some of our 'fans'. There is a strong anti Harriott element amongst them. Cousins and Solly can have the odd stinker and it's all 'they're one of our own, gawd bless 'em' .. whereas Harriott makes a fuck up and he's the devil incarnate. Give the man a chance folks, at this point in time .. WE NEED HIM TO BE LOVED and we need a change, a breath of fresh air to improve our woeful attack and midfield.
Spot on. He does seem to get a raw deal from our fans compared to other academy products.
Ask yourself, if you were Callum, would you play better at Charlton (where many supporters get on your back and you are messed around in positions when you play) or Colchester, (where the fans love him and he is playing regularly
Ask yourself, if you were Callum, would you play better at Charlton (where many supporters get on your back and you are messed around in positions when you play) or Colchester, (where the fans love him and he is playing regularly
Charlton in the Championship - Tougher opposition, stand out less. OR Colchester in League One - Easier teams to play against, stand out more.
I'd take Championship as I like to test myself against higher standards at work.
I understand your point but sometimes it's about having pride in what you do and not trying to be the Super all the time. Why be a big fish in a small pond, when you can be a normal fish in a normal pond or a normal fish excelling in a normal pond?
Yes I remember that other famous Charlton scapegoat, Kevin Lisbie, playing for Colchester in the Championship, running our defence ragged and scoring their two goals in a 2-1 defeat for us at The Valley.
As the song (Where Have All The Flowers Gone) goes when will we ever learn when will we ever learn?
Harriot had enough chances to make himself a first team regular.
2012/2013: Brilliant end to the season in his brakeout year. 2013/2014: Terrible season until last Six matches under Riga 2014/2015: Squad player at best. Now: On form to a lower league team.
I do not think Harriot is the answer but we could do with some variation in the attacking area.
My only worry is that when he returns he will have the expectation of carrying on this form in a poorly performing side.
I reckon he will have returned in time for the Reading match.
The thing with people saying that he's 'found his level' is that Callum is still 21. Doing this well in league 1 when you're 21 does not mean that you are going to be league 1 level all your career.
This is valuable experience at that age and could easily see him make the step up next year, or this year. Just because he was thrown in the deep end at 19 doesn't make him any further along his development than if he wasn't. Would be silly to let him go IMO.
Harriott might not be the answer to the left, and no one is suggesting he is, but he is certainly a better option than playing a centre forward or Cousins on the left.
I went to the Col U game last night and was sitting behind Damian Matthew. Callum was strutting around with an air of confidence that I hadn't seen from him before. His pace caused problems for Bradford early in the game. Callums goal came with a run on the left, cutting in on the edge of the box and shooting. The shot wasn't that powerful but the ball went in under the body of Brad Jones, who couldn't get down quick enough. Callum played quite well but gave the ball away a few times early On. I thought Sordell looked too good to be playing at that level.
Sordell has a lot of ability, it is a mystery as to how he has ended up in Div 1, having played in the Prem last year for Burnley.
Harriot is a different case, and this loan spelll could be the making of him, as others have pointed out, he is far better suited to playing on the left of a front three, than he is a left sided player in a four man midfield.
Hope that he comes good, as quality left sided players are hard to find.
I went to the Col U game last night and was sitting behind Damian Matthew. Callum was strutting around with an air of confidence that I hadn't seen from him before. His pace caused problems for Bradford early in the game. Callums goal came with a run on the left, cutting in on the edge of the box and shooting. The shot wasn't that powerful but the ball went in under the body of Brad Jones, who couldn't get down quick enough. Callum played quite well but gave the ball away a few times early On. I thought Sordell looked too good to be playing at that level.
Brad Jones is another one who's really dropped down the leagues as well, it shows how competitive the Championship is when players like Sordell and Jones are dropping TWO divisions
I think it's best for both us and Harriott if he stays where he is until January. Let him have a good run of games and improve as a football player. His time at Colchester should mature him and make him more intelligent as a footballer.
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People want to see more patience and support for Harriott, what about the new signings? Some seem to have already written them off. McAleny was being compared to Church after one appearance off the bench. Bergdich is possibly out of position and adjusting to a new country/league.
Not saying they're better but it wasn't long ago many were saying Harriott needs to go out on loan and how excited they were about Ceballos. Harriott has a good of form in League One and now he's apparently the answer. You could argue his hat trick was against a very poor Blackpool side and it's easy to forget how his decision making and poor touch often let him down.
McAleny has scored a couple of Championship goals himself for Cardiff, while Moussa had a good scoring record for Coventry in League One. In terms of ability I doubt there's that much difference between them all, but Harriott's form and our struggles mean he is now seen as the player we need and the others are poor signings of the owner.
The bigger problems are the lack of alternative to Makienok and the amount of injuries we have picked up in just a couple of months. Putting Harriott in the team won't stop us conceding from set pieces or help our frontline hold up the ball.
Don't see him coming back to play for us as things stand.
Wigan, Bradford or even Colchester will offer something and with his contract up in the summer we'll take it.
Or he could just hang on and go for nothing in the summer.
Ditto Pigott.
My only caveat is some of our 'fans'. There is a strong anti Harriott element amongst them. Cousins and Solly can have the odd stinker and it's all 'they're one of our own, gawd bless 'em' .. whereas Harriott makes a fuck up and he's the devil incarnate. Give the man a chance folks, at this point in time .. WE NEED HIM TO BE LOVED and we need a change, a breath of fresh air to improve our woeful attack and midfield.
OR
Colchester in League One - Easier teams to play against, stand out more.
I'd take Championship as I like to test myself against higher standards at work.
I understand your point but sometimes it's about having pride in what you do and not trying to be the Super
They started poorly but brought in Sordel, Garven and Harriot and since then have shot up the table.
As the song (Where Have All The Flowers Gone) goes when will we ever learn when will we ever learn?
2012/2013: Brilliant end to the season in his brakeout year.
2013/2014: Terrible season until last Six matches under Riga
2014/2015: Squad player at best.
Now: On form to a lower league team.
I do not think Harriot is the answer but we could do with some variation in the attacking area.
My only worry is that when he returns he will have the expectation of carrying on this form in a poorly performing side.
I reckon he will have returned in time for the Reading match.
This is valuable experience at that age and could easily see him make the step up next year, or this year. Just because he was thrown in the deep end at 19 doesn't make him any further along his development than if he wasn't. Would be silly to let him go IMO.
Does that mean all the players playing in league one who aren't scoring every game are league two players?
Harriot is a different case, and this loan spelll could be the making of him, as others have pointed out, he is far better suited to playing on the left of a front three, than he is a left sided player in a four man midfield.
Hope that he comes good, as quality left sided players are hard to find.